View Full Version : If at first you don't succeed.....
Seamus
Dec-31-2004, 02:59 AM
I went to the harbour this morning. I would appreciate any comments or hints, hopefully there's some improvement from yesterday:bash
1:
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13467226-M.jpg
2:
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13467225-M.jpg
3:
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13467223-M.jpg
4:
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13467224-M.jpg
originals are here : http://seamus.smugmug.com/gallery/338670/1/13467224
Fwiw, canon 20d, sigma 70 - 200, camera set to p.
wxwax
Dec-31-2004, 09:32 AM
Shay, I like how close you got on the first shot. Have you thought about getting really low, so the bird is silhouetted against the sky/horizon? Might look nice and blurrier than shooting against the ground.
Sorta like this.
http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/13428828-S.jpg
Seamus
Dec-31-2004, 01:08 PM
Shay, I like how close you got on the first shot. Have you thought about getting really low, so the bird is silhouetted against the sky/horizon? Might look nice and blurrier than shooting against the ground.
Sorta like this.
Thanks for the tip :thumb. There's more to this photo business than meets the eye :wink
TheSenator
Dec-31-2004, 01:18 PM
I'm by no means an expert or even amateur, but your photos all have a slight problem with composition. All of them have a strongly centered subject and #4 feels like the bird will fly out of the frame. Try just recropping it so that the bird flies into the frame and leads your eye. And on that gallery I like the first photo the best, some nice cropping would really make it pop.
Seamus
Dec-31-2004, 02:03 PM
I'm by no means an expert or even amateur, but your photos all have a slight problem with composition. All of them have a strongly centered subject and #4 feels like the bird will fly out of the frame. Try just recropping it so that the bird flies into the frame and leads your eye. And on that gallery I like the first photo the best, some nice cropping would really make it pop.
I like it also, thanks for the tips. I cropped it, what do you think?
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13486411-M.jpg
shay.
Here are some easy tips for composition, etc.
http://www.betterphoto.com/exploring/tips.asp
Flying gulls are hard to get, you're doing fine. More practice, practice, practice and you'll have the camera action down pat. Then comes composition. Once you are at ease with capturing the birds well, got your timing down, etc., then you can concentrate on waiting for the bird to fly into the magic spot.
I'm not a pigeon lover, but I do admire the irridescent quality of the feathers you captured.
Seamus
Dec-31-2004, 02:27 PM
I'm going through the photos I took today and cropped this one.
http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/13487241-M.jpg
Your opinions, hints & and critique are welcome. And happy new year :slosh
Seamus
Dec-31-2004, 03:02 PM
Here are some easy tips for composition, etc.
http://www.betterphoto.com/exploring/tips.asp
Flying gulls are hard to get, you're doing fine. More practice, practice, practice and you'll have the camera action down pat. Then comes composition. Once you are at ease with capturing the birds well, got your timing down, etc., then you can concentrate on waiting for the bird to fly into the magic spot.
I'm not a pigeon lover, but I do admire the irridescent quality of the feathers you captured.
Thanks Dee.
TheSenator
Dec-31-2004, 08:47 PM
Composition is hard, especially with birds. They fly fast and defy autofocus (on my lil C-740 at least) but this is what I thought of when I said to compose the crop so the bird flies into it. The line from the top of the wing flows to the bottom. Sorta rules of thirds. A great place to get down to earth help is http://www.morguefile.com/archive/classroom.php its just well done and the composition help really is good. Keep working at it, I love alot of the pictures.
(The swan is really great)
Seamus
Jan-01-2005, 01:36 AM
Composition is hard, especially with birds. They fly fast and defy autofocus (on my lil C-740 at least) but this is what I thought of when I said to compose the crop so the bird flies into it. The line from the top of the wing flows to the bottom. Sorta rules of thirds. A great place to get down to earth help is http://www.morguefile.com/archive/classroom.php its just well done and the composition help really is good. Keep working at it, I love alot of the pictures.
(The swan is really great)
Thanks for the help :thumb
ginger_55
Jan-01-2005, 08:07 AM
Composition, heck, with a flying bird? You can always change that in post.
I was checking the eyes, they are much better. The eyes and the feathers make the bird, IMO. Usually.
Shooting up isn't a bad idea. If you have a chance, a sitting duck, so to speak, shoot it every which way. Remember I shot Olde Weary Bill from the curb, sky behind him. Folks seemed to like it. I, myself, I was comfortable on the curb.
ginger
(my downloads are so slow, a song takes longer to download than to play and sing..................thursday?)
Seamus
Jan-02-2005, 05:19 AM
Composition, heck, with a flying bird? You can always change that in post.
I was checking the eyes, they are much better. The eyes and the feathers make the bird, IMO. Usually.
Shooting up isn't a bad idea. If you have a chance, a sitting duck, so to speak, shoot it every which way. Remember I shot Olde Weary Bill from the curb, sky behind him. Folks seemed to like it. I, myself, I was comfortable on the curb.
ginger
(my downloads are so slow, a song takes longer to download than to play and sing..................thursday?)
Thanks for the encouragement Ginger :thumb
Shay.
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