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gus
Nov-23-2006, 06:50 PM
No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

Anyone know how i go about this ?

Andy
Nov-23-2006, 06:58 PM
No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

Anyone know how i go about this ?

Look around for:

Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

Both are outstanding. Here's more:
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com

And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.

gus
Nov-23-2006, 07:16 PM
Look around for:

Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

Both are outstanding. Here's more:
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com (http://www.cameraquest.com)

And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.
Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes :dunno

Andy
Nov-23-2006, 07:36 PM
Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes :dunno
AFAIK, there are no other choices, the Canon, the Sigma 12-24 popeye. Well, there is a Zeiss 15 but you'd need to sell a kidney.

ChrisJ
Nov-23-2006, 07:42 PM
Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.

Andy
Nov-23-2006, 07:48 PM
Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.
:agree :agree :agree

Jeffro
Nov-23-2006, 07:52 PM
:agree :agree :agree

I agree too, sell that 30D and get a 5D! Heck I'll pay you 2 times what you paid for the 30D. You can double your money! :rofl :rofl :rofl

gus
Nov-23-2006, 07:55 PM
All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

Andy
Nov-23-2006, 08:02 PM
All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?
not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava :lol3

gus
Nov-23-2006, 08:08 PM
not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava :lol3
Just heading down to the shop for a cherry ripe ice-cream actually.

Mongrel
Nov-23-2006, 08:53 PM
Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

No

Michiel de Brieder
Nov-23-2006, 10:31 PM
All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?
Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!

gus
Nov-23-2006, 10:36 PM
No
Thanks mate

gus
Nov-23-2006, 10:36 PM
Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!
Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested.

Manfr3d
Nov-24-2006, 02:34 AM
No

8mm/4.0 circular or 15mm/2.8 rectangular fisheye?!

But then when you correct these fisheyes you'll
loose quite abit of contrast and sharpness. So its
not worth it. Go 5D or buy a 200$ wide angle adapter
for better quality as a corrected fisheye.

Michiel de Brieder
Nov-24-2006, 02:54 AM
Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested. Sure,

not the best shots I have, but these are the ones I have online:
San Francisco
http://Michiel.smugmug.com/photos/45996822-L.jpg
San Francisco again
http://Michiel.smugmug.com/photos/45996811-L.jpg
Scotland - Edinburgh
http://Michiel.smugmug.com/photos/66723663-L.jpg
Hooverdam
http://Michiel.smugmug.com/photos/46011886-L.jpg
Sequoia Tree, yours truly lying in the dirt :)

http://Michiel.smugmug.com/photos/46003634-L.jpg

Hope this helps :D

DoctorIt
Nov-24-2006, 05:19 AM
the Nikkor 10.5mm DX is an awesome lens.

http://doctorit.smugmug.com/photos/51476040-S.jpg

why do you hate Sigma's so much, btw? I've taken a ton of fantastic photos with my Sigma zooms. Aside from my 70-200VR, the Sigma 18-50/2.8 and 100-300/4 (both top shelf EX models, but far le$$ than L or Nikkor AF-S glass) were the best lenses I've ever owned. :dunno

they have two offerings,
diagonal fish:
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3279&navigator=4

circular fish:
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3319&navigator=4

Mongrel
Nov-24-2006, 05:41 AM
Thanks mate

Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

I searched for one myself before, and couldn't find *anybody* who made a 'normal' 10mm-12mm prime in a Canon mount.

It is my understanding that you are not looking for a fisheye, so I didn't bother mentioning them.

The Canon 14mm f/2.8L is the widest prime I know of in a Canon mount at the moment.

You asked for 10mm-12mm, I've never seen one.

Mongrel
Nov-24-2006, 05:50 AM
over at FM:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

Just a thought...

gus
Nov-24-2006, 10:44 AM
Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

.
Not at all mate...i like direct answers, thats what i wanted. The other info is great also but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.

Andy
Nov-24-2006, 10:48 AM
but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.
but you said you liked that :lol3
http://www.kids.learn2type.com/images/Tots/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_nwm.gif

gus
Nov-24-2006, 10:55 AM
but you said you liked that :lol3
http://www.kids.learn2type.com/images/Tots/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_nwm.gif

Youve been keeping that gif for a long time wanting to use it havnt you ?

gus
Nov-24-2006, 10:56 AM
over at FM:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

Just a thought...

Tks ...they had a very interesting link
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html

David_S85
Nov-24-2006, 11:05 AM
A linkie (http://www.vrwave.com/panoramic/photography/lens_database.html) for Gus

EDIT: another on the peleng 8mm (http://www.jarnell.com/reviews/peleng/index.htm) for mounting to Canon. Make sure you read all three pages of the review, including the de-fishing parts. Note: The newest version of the PTLens plug-in easily supports this lens, correcting for all sorts of fishy problems.

Andy
Nov-24-2006, 11:05 AM
Tks ...they had a very interesting link
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html
d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail :lol3

Matthew Saville
Nov-24-2006, 02:11 PM
d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail :lol3

Reading the linked review, I love this site already. Honest but slightly witty, just how I like it!

-Matt-

Red Bull
Nov-26-2006, 08:16 PM
Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!

If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)

Michiel de Brieder
Nov-29-2006, 05:45 AM
If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)
Hiya 'Bull

not any time soon :wink

cheers mate