*Challenge 26 in ginger's house

[ginger_55]

Hole and torn wallpaper by dogs, Corgis, specifically. Photography by ginger
Is this what you all had in mind?
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[ginger_55]

with and old boyfriend, and his new girlfriend. I hope these are OK.
11/17/2004 a few moments ago, excuse me, I have to go get ready.
ginger
(Is there an emoticon for nervous?)

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[miketaylor01]

The picture tells a story of the dogs being destructive in the house. Nice. :thumb

[snapapple]

Hole and torn wallpaper by dogs, Corgis, specifically. Photography by ginger
Is this what you all had in mind?
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/11385158-L.jpg This is funny. Seems like he should at least be looking guilty instead of so happy.

[snapapple]

with and old boyfriend, and his new girlfriend. I hope these are OK.
11/17/2004 a few moments ago, excuse me, I have to go get ready.
ginger
(Is there an emoticon for nervous?)

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/11461514-L.jpg
I like this one best. I like the light and the colors and the nice lines and folds of the materials. Very nice.

[aero-nut]

I like this one best. I like the light and the colors and the nice lines and folds of the materials. Very nice.

I agree. The colors are definately what grab me.

[ginger_55]

I keep these keepsakes behind glassdoors in an old bookcase. Many came to me as my parents died. Others are from my children. Some were picked by me, they all have memories. I am going to show them in different ways. I have a short window in which the light shines nicely in that room. I can't take more today, but I can on any sunny day. Nothing is moved, except for a book by Emerson that I have to find and put back. That was my father's.

Comments, please, advice.........for other mornings. I cannot show the area around it, but I don't know whether to come in tight, go to something else, use the clothes instead. Any advice would be welcome.

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Thank you for looking, comments?
My grandmother did that oval oil painting right above this writing.
My father was the little boy, long hair, on the left in the copied photo
above here, too. A photo from my daughter's wedding is on the right.
It has every member of my family who was alive at that time, 8 yrs ago.

ginger

[ginger_55]

Maybe, probably, I can't use sepia????

ginger

[ginger_55]

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by ginger: generations and lifetimes, or Lifes Times

[ginger_55]

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Thought I would see how a frame did. g

[judyfuess]

Hi Ginger,
The frame adds a lot to it!!! I really like this one.
-judy


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Thought I would see how a frame did. g

[bikehiker]

Very nice ginger the frame helped, IMO

[snapapple]

Ginger,
I think the picture is very interesting. There is a lot to look at. I'm thinking, though, that it might be too much. I would try simplifying. Maybe make a small grouping of things. The bell in the upper left with the photo next to it and maybe another silver piece. I think I see a small box. That's just one idea though.

Looking at the whole thing, the large round bowl is reflecting a lot of light. That bright spot is kind of distracting to me. Maybe that could be moved to the right side and tilted in so that it doesn't reflect. I think the thing that can make these indoor pictures special is the light. Ginette did a nice job with the silver hairbrush set on her bed. The sunlight was perfect. That's the kind of thing I'm thinking of.

About the sepia, you'll have to get a ruling from Andy. He said b&w conversion was OK, but didn't mention sepia. I would think it was all the same thing, but I'm not the authority here.

Try a couple of smaller versions and put them up. I'd like to see how it looks.

[ginger_55]

Andy said that sepia was OK, it is toning, and already in the rules. I made a special thread and asked him.

You know, that bookcase, well, I am ready to pass the stuff on,almost, but it has been like that, except a couple of books are gone, other than that it has been like that since we moved here in 1990, a few things have been added. But the silver tray mother got as a wedding present in 1939, it has been there in that place all that time.

I cannot imagine winning this, but neither can I imagine moving that stuff until I give it to my kids. That tray goes to Sara, I almost took it to her this fall, but I guess I wasn't ready.

Thanks for looking and commenting. I know if I asked, I should take advice, I just can't move the stuff. I could have gone for another photo, but I am kind of done.

The light was on there then, as much as it gets on there, so I had no problems photographing it at a low ISO. There is a table that gets light just before that. For about 1/2 an hour at the most. That is what I started with, I did not do a still life thing there either. And my mantle.........it still has Christmas stuff on it. I don't want to go there. I does get a ray of light in a certain place for a short period.

I went upstairs this morning, I didn't come up with anything. Except the fact I had a lot of sand in my 50mm canon lens, but I didn't come up with any photos. And nowhere else gets light like in Ginette's photo, and I don't do that kind of thing, particularly not now.

At least I figured our an entry. If I started moving stuff in that bookcase, well it is scary to think of where that might take me.

ginger

[Sandy]

I like your pictures shelf, it has a very warm, lovely feeling. Great shot G.

[MainFragger]

Sepia shots of the shelves best. The frame gives it a nice developed photograph look, but I think its not allowed for the contest. What would be an interesting alternative, is to bring the wood color to the fram, that is absent in the sepia photo. A deep brown wood frame that is slightly ornate.

MainFragger

[mgound]

I could look at this for hours. Must be hundreds of stories you could tell us all about the items on the shelveshttp://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/11551171-L.jpg



Thought I would see how a frame did. g

[pathfinder]

I could look at this for hours. Must be hundreds of stories you could tell us all about the items on the shelves
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I love the light in this image, Ginger, and I also saw Andy's comment that sepia toning was acceptable - Some digital cameras can shoot directly to sepia B&W, so sepia should not be any problem for this challenge.

The shelves are full of very interesting heirlooms, but the shelves seem crooked - not level - to me, and like Snappy said - the bright light reflected from the silver bowl needs to be dealt with. I think you are very close to an excellent contender here, but not quite a winner yet without dealing with the reflection and the tight cropping and crooked shelves.

Maybe the light will come back tomorrow - you can do it, I know!
:clap

[ginger_55]

Now what would I do about crooked shelves? They were not put in crooked.

g:rofl

[ginger_55]

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My mother's bear

g

[judyfuess]

wow!!! This is one of those timeless shots!!! As much as I love it, I think I like the shelf better. Great Shot!!!

Judy

PS - how do you put the frame on the pictures?

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My mother's bear

g

[ginger_55]

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Which one?

g

[ginger_55]

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My husband likes the sepia, I like the color, except I am worried that it has a blue cast. I tried to get it out, but that upset some things that needed the blue.

Bill set up tungston lights for me, he covered all outside light, but by the time I got to these.......... the windows were open, the tungsten lights were still on, so it was a mishmash of lighting. Worked better than either alone, but I don't know what one would call it.

ginger (I was a complete mess, am going to try to make an avatar of what this did to me...........glowing!)

[tmlphoto]

Ginger, I like the sepia one best.

[judyfuess]

I also like the sepia one best. I get a little distracted with the colored one. (Both are great shots!!)

[ginger_55]

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[ginger_55]

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Nov 19 2004

[pathfinder]

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Nov 19 2004

Ginger - I like these abstact shots of your peeling paint quite a bit, altho they do not seem in perfect focus to me. These type of images seem so simple when viewed, but are difficult to capture and carry off artistically. Well done!
The bad new is that I do not care for the curved drop shadows in your 2nd frame very much - too too overpowering for your lovely image in my humble opinion.
:dunno

[ginger_55]

Pathfinder, the focus thing is a problem. I did not think they worked when I took them, just forgot about them. Then I got so bored with the bookcase, I played with the abstracts today.

I wish it were light in that room right now, darn. We leave tomorrow for my daughter's and don't get back til Sunday night. If I don't get those retaken tomorrow, I will change the frame thing. It just happened, I liked it, but looking again, I guess it is a bit much.

Thanks for commenting. I will try to fix the thing, but I do have a lot to do.

ginger

[Sandy]

Sepia shelf shot is the best, although I do like the bear too.

[judyfuess]

Hi Ginger,

I like the one below "Man and Woman" (I couldn't read the name) .. It has a lot of character to it.

-judy

[judyfuess]

Love the name!!

[Andy]

ginger, give us an idea of the settings you are going with on the wall shots.

aperture?
iso?
shutterspeed?
lens, focal length
tripod?

thanks. some look oof to me and i want to try and help.

http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11746830-Th.gif happy thanksgiving!

[ginger_55]

ginger, give us an idea of the settings you are going with on the wall shots.

aperture?
iso?
shutterspeed?
lens, focal length
tripod?

thanks. some look oof to me and i want to try and help.

http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11746830-Th.gif happy thanksgiving!Andy, I am trying to think of how to answer you. I have done it three different times. Each time I have tried different things. I couldn't get any lens to focus close. Until I used the automatic settings. So I did it both ways.
Last night I spent about three hours with a lamp, a tripod, not a tripod, I could not get the lens to focus. The ISO was 100 and 400, I may have done a few accidentally at 1600. I was tried manual, which I never do, I did that to have some control over the depth of field. I ended up trying to handhold at ............. 1 sec, but the lens wouldn't do a macro. (I figure I will go to a camera store and find out why my lenses say macro, but won't shoot that way, but I haven't done that yet.)
This morning it looked like I was getting good depth of field, I went to the cheap 50 mm, figuring that I might be able to hand hold it, though I had my tripod with me. I used an 1S0 of 100, I think, that is what it is on now.

This is supposed to show up on the exif, isn't it, I don't get an exif.......I mentioned that, but I don't know where that went...... I used to get it, so I know what it looks like, no info. next to the photo, or below it.

The thing is now we do have to leave at 7 AM, I just can't reshoot, Bill doesn't have any lights in the van, didn't last night either which is why I was trying to use a bare bulb.

They are all, at least the ones I have done, they are all soft in one place or another. I thought I would get away with it, but I will try to find something in focus. The first one I put up, I thought it might be soft when I took it, at the top, I am not that tall, and I was shooting up.

It is a tiny alcove where the ceiling fell out, there is a lot of stuff there, so it was very difficult to use the tripod last night. But I did, the problem was the lens then, and I don't remember other than that. About 1 AM I gave up and figured I would wait til morning, I worked on it first thing. I thought it went OK, at the time, then they were all soft in one place or another.

This makes no sense, I know, I just don't have many answers, I did everything..................... except time has run out. I do have others, I will check to see if any is totally in focus. I will say that the flash kept coming on this morning, when I went to upload them, I discovered that none of them were RAW, all the others were, but the focus was much worse.

I forgot, I used all my lenses. The 50mm, the kit lens, the 28-135 and the 70-300. I thought the macro might work on one of them, etc.

ginger

[ginger_55]

I took a photo, 1600 iso, just now of the area I was working in, it is a tiny alcove with books and things spread and stacked all over. It looks like something I would hate myself in the morning for sharing. It is very difficult to use a tripd. It is even difficult to stand there, find footing. When I first started this I fell a couple of times, I have learned how to stand. But I have no time.
g


Thanks anyway, Andy. You have a good thanksgiving, too.

[Andy]

these are oof. can't diagnose but i suspect you were too close or there's camera shake.

for close ups, you need a macro lens. canon makes a 50mm and a 100mm macro lens. you can also try diopters, like the canon 250d, it screws on the front of your kit lens (i think - check the size) it allows you to get closer.

exif - your smugmug gallery must be enabled for "camera data" in the gallery setup, then give us the pic and the link to the pic in your post. when you are in photoshop, do NOT use save for web. use "save as". we've covered this before, but i think you just forgot.... :D

[ginger_55]

these are oof. can't diagnose but i suspect you were too close or there's camera shake.

for close ups, you need a macro lens. canon makes a 50mm and a 100mm macro lens. you can also try diopters, like the canon 250d, it screws on the front of your kit lens (i think - check the size) it allows you to get closer.

exif - your smugmug gallery must be enabled for "camera data" in the gallery setup, then give us the pic and the link to the pic in your post. when you are in photoshop, do NOT use save for web. use "save as". we've covered this before, but i think you just forgot.... :D

ANDY, I NEVER USE SAVE FOR WEB, I have said this before, but I think you don't hear me.

ginger

[ginger_55]

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/gallery/286651/1/11385158 (http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/gallery/286651/1/11385158)



That is the link to the gallery, there is no extra camera information, though it is checked that there should be.

In order to go in as a owner of the gallery, so you can see for yourself, my e-mail address is ginger55@aol.com and my name would be ginger_55, my password is skyeboy.

Now anyone can go in as the owner and check around. You could probably even look at the rest of my stuff under add new photos.

I was using Canon's 50 mm, I thought it was macro. It is the one for under 100.00....... I just looked it up, the minimum focus distance is 1.5', I was within that easily. That alcove is probably 3 or 4 ft wide. It is not camera shake. In camera shake it looks different, and with camera shake nothing is in focus, in these photos parts of the photos, for the most part were in focus.

I tried that lens right away.

I really wish you would go check out that gallery, so you can see I am not wrong. I even showed my husband. But I can't show you, except that you could go look. These particular photos are on the last two pages.

ginger

The metadata has shown back up on ps, but I still don't see anywhere to access any information on it in the gallery. And it is clicked on "yes" to be made available.

[Andy]

right here, under each pic, it says the following: here's your exif, you get it by clicking on "more photo details" in your gallery under the pics

Taken with a Canon (Canon Eos Digital Rebel). More photo details.
Original size: 2294x3441. Current: 533x800. Want smaller? Medium

1/30th sec ginger, that takes a really steady hand when you are close :D

Photograph Details
Date Taken: 1980-01-01 00:01:06
Date Digitized: 1980-01-01 00:01:06
Date Modified: 2004-11-24 10:38:46
Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL
Size: 2294x3441
Bytes: 1418508
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO: 400
Focal Length: 25mm (guess: 37mm in 35mm)
Exposure Time: 0.0333s (1/30)
JPEG Quality: 3
Flash: 16
Exposure Bias: 0
SensingMethod: One-chip color sensor

[ginger_55]

right here, under each pic, it says the following: here's your exif, you get it by clicking on "more photo details" in your gallery under the pics

Taken with a Canon (Canon Eos Digital Rebel). More photo details.
Original size: 2294x3441. Current: 533x800. Want smaller? Medium

1/30th sec ginger, that takes a really steady hand when you are close :D

Photograph Details
Date Taken: 1980-01-01 00:01:06
Date Digitized: 1980-01-01 00:01:06
Date Modified: 2004-11-24 10:38:46
Make: Canon

Andy, I understand that you got information on smugmug that I don't get on smugmug.
I do not get the line that says,
"Taken with a Canon (Canon EOS Rebel). More photo details."

That line does not show up for me. I showed it all to my husband, he won't post here, but he knows it is not showing up for me. He said that I should talk to smugmug about it.

I know you have my info, because it looks like my info. 1/30 th of a second is not difficult for me, particular when I am securely braced. What makes those photos soft is they are not straight on to the surface being photographed. So one place might be in focus, but other places are not. If I had time tomorrow I would go up there with a tripod and shoot it straight on and take whatever was there. This is the area.

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/11811823-S.jpg


1600 ISO, hand held at 1/15 sec, f 4.5
(I had to go to PS to get that information)


I am showing it to you, because I took it tonight RAW 1600 !SO. handheld.
When I took the other shots, I was over in that little area by the curtain, I was backed up against the wall, that was for support. Or I used the tripod as a monopod, considering the area.

I am going to contact smugmug, as I really don't get that info.

ginger

[Andy]

ginger, don't bother smugmug with this, their system is working fine :D

here's you shot, with exif:
http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11817928-L.jpg

i copied that window from this page on your smugmug site (http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/gallery/286651/3/11791631/Medium)

now, i notice, that some of your shots have no exif.
like this one (http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/gallery/286651/1/11461514/Large) which says to me, you are doing *something* inconsistent in your post-processing workflow. how did you process the clothing shot and how did you process the wall shot? they were processed differently, becuase one has exif available and one does not.

hang in there, and don't let the turkeys get you down! :thumb


Andy, I understand that you got information on smugmug that I don't get on smugmug.
I do not get the line that says,
"Taken with a Canon (Canon EOS Rebel). More photo details."

That line does not show up for me. I showed it all to my husband, he won't post here, but he knows it is not showing up for me. He said that I should talk to smugmug about it.

I know you have my info, because it looks like my info. 1/30 th of a second is not difficult for me, particular when I am securely braced. What makes those photos soft is they are not straight on to the surface being photographed. So one place might be in focus, but other places are not. If I had time tomorrow I would go up there with a tripod and shoot it straight on and take whatever was there. This is the area.

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/11811823-S.jpg


1600 ISO, hand held at 1/15 sec, f 4.5
(I had to go to PS to get that information)


I am showing it to you, because I took it tonight RAW 1600 !SO. handheld.
When I took the other shots, I was over in that little area by the curtain, I was backed up against the wall, that was for support. Or I used the tripod as a monopod, considering the area.

I am going to contact smugmug, as I really don't get that info.

ginger

[ginger_55]

At this point, the ones that were taken RAW do not have an EXIF, the others do.

I started having this problem, or noticed it, about the time I started shooting RAW.

Your daughter is very Pretty, and that was a nice set. "Turn Around, and they........." Fiddler on The Roof.

I am staying with my 45 yr old daughter.

I have to change my mindset and get ready to go.

Have a good Thanksgiving.

ginger

[ginger_55]

With RAW, I usually just set with the exposure settings for the light and shadows, then click OK, then do the usual stuff in PS and sending it down as "save as". As a jpeg. Sometimes, if it is a keeper, IMO, I also save it as a PSD, or at the beginning, if i am afraid of losing it. I thought you might wonder, what I would do differently, I can't see that that is differently. I use PS CS.

ginger

[John Mueller]

At this point, the ones that were taken RAW do not have an EXIF, the others do.

I started having this problem, or noticed it, about the time I started shooting RAW.

Your daughter is very Pretty, and that was a nice set. "Turn Around, and they........." Fiddler on The Roof.

I am staying with my 45 yr old daughter.

I have to change my mindset and get ready to go.

Have a good Thanksgiving.

ginger
Ginger,do you have the latest raw plugin for PSCS?
If I recall I had this problem also with raw files.Once I installed the latest plug-in It was then visible on smugmug.
John

[ginger_55]

Thanks, John. I didn't buy my CS from Adobe, but I am supposed to be able to access that stuff. Next week I will call the people I bought it from and find out.

How long ago did you get this?

I got the CS a couple of months ago.

ginger

[John Mueller]

Thanks, John. I didn't buy my CS from Adobe, but I am supposed to be able to access that stuff. Next week I will call the people I bought it from and find out.

How long ago did you get this?

I got the CS a couple of months ago.

ginger
Ginger,go here here (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2609)