Review: Huey Monitor Calibration from Pantone

[Andy]

Here's the review (http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1174347)

Discuss the review, monitor calibration, here.

EDIT March 25, 2007
Pantone has given SmugMug customers a $20 discount on both the Huey and HueyPRO products. This would make the special pricing $69 for huey and $109 for hueyPRO.
Just need to enter the promotion code: smugmug at checkout to receive their discount.

[Mike Lane]

So was it better than the GM Eye I or what? It wasn't clear to me from your review how it stacked up.

[wxwax]

Very handy little review. :thumb I have a Eye One that baffles me, I ask Patch for help to make it work.

Two questions. Does it only have an auto setting? And how do you know it's accurate, as you say at the end of the review?

[Andy]

So was it better than the GM Eye I or what? It wasn't clear to me from your review how it stacked up.

Read it again? :ear

[Andy]

Very handy little review. :thumb I have a Eye One that baffles me, I ask Patch for help to make it work.

Two questions. Does it only have an auto setting? And how do you know it's accurate, as you say at the end of the review?

Good point, Sid - and I amended my conclusion to further explain.

Auto only? Hmm - well, it's fairly auto-magic. There are "manual" settings to change your profile to "video" or "gamer" or cool/warm and low/high contrast. And of course, photog.

[Mike Lane]

Read it again? :ear

Okay, just did and extra carefully too. You mention that you used the GME1 and that the calibration was good compared to the GME1 calibration. But I never got the feel of if I should buy this one or save up for the GME1. The closest I got is this:

For many folks, this is a great starting point into the world of color calibration (http://smugmug.com/help/display-color) - and for the the advanced procrastinator, too, it's a great way to remove some of the mystery.


So am I just starting out or am I an advanced procrastinator. Or maybe I'm in the other undefined group that would be better suited with the GME1? Or maybe there is no such group. All these questions are swirling around in my head without any real resolution... :huh

[wxwax]

Good point, Sid - and I amended my conclusion to further explain.

Auto only? Hmm - well, it's fairly auto-magic. There are "manual" settings to change your profile to "video" or "gamer" or cool/warm and low/high contrast. And of course, photog.
:thumb Good stuff, I appreciate the extra info in the re-written conclusion.

[Andy]

All these questions are swirling around in my head without any real resolution... :huh

:rolleyes

[Mike Lane]

:rolleyes

So what are you saying exactly?

[Andy]

So what are you saying exactly?

Did you learn to be a PITA from Rutt? Crikey! :lol3

[Mike Lane]

Did you learn to be a PITA from Rutt? Crikey! :lol3

:lol3

[Dee]

Did you learn to be a PITA from Rutt? Crikey! :lol3

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Tell us how you really feel, Andy :):

[marlof]

Thanks for giving an overview on how this works, Andy. Thanks to your review I've put the huey on my upcoming birthday wishlist, and already learned that there's a good chance I'll be getting one.

[David_S85]

Looks like a Mr. Microphone sitting next to the monitor in its little cradle.

The Huey looks to be miles simpler than these devices were a year or more ago. I'm still doing it by eye, but this new device might push me over the edge. Only $90. That sounds fair.

I wonder if they'll make a calibrator for dual monitor users. The Duey?

[Andy]

Looks like a Mr. Microphone sitting next to the monitor in its little cradle.

The Huey looks to be miles simpler than these devices were a year or more ago. I'm still doing it by eye, but this new device might push me over the edge. Only $90. That sounds fair.

I wonder if they'll make a calibrator for dual monitor users. The Duey?

:lol3

I can say that I did my 15" Powerbook and my 23" ACD in about 8 minutes flat. It's so very easy to use.

[wxwax]

For me, the simplicity of it is a doubled edged sword.

On the one hand, it's very appealing because I'm lost when it comes to gamma levels.

On the other hand, because it's simple and turnkey I mistrust it, and think that the program I don't understand and can't operate will do a better job.

[Art Scott]

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=16193740&search=pantone+huey

dIGITAL GRAPHICS RESOURCE HAS IT FOR $77.96....have not ran them thru rellsellars ratings yet so....................

[Art Scott]

If you are using Huey to calibrate your monitor what are you using to calibrate your printer(s)??

[Andy]

If you are using Huey to calibrate your monitor what are you using to calibrate your printer(s)??

Get the ICC profile for your printer, and do a soft proof in Photoshop:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1123524

[Art Scott]

Dekuji....[Thanks in Cezch]:D

[Viking]

Intressting product, and cheap!

But it dont generate a ICC profile?

[windoze]

Good point, Sid - and I amended my conclusion to further explain.

Auto only? Hmm - well, it's fairly auto-magic. There are "manual" settings to change your profile to "video" or "gamer" or cool/warm and low/high contrast. And of course, photog.


mine arrives tomorrow and im really hoping it helps..... my monitor is as uncalibrated as it gets.... ive never understood these things... :scratch

anyway, somebody remarked that to make this thing "really work well " you should do it with no light on at all, is that true ??


troy

[wxwax]

mine arrives tomorrow and im really hoping it helps..... my monitor is as uncalibrated as it gets.... ive never understood these things... :scratch

anyway, somebody remarked that to make this thing "really work well " you should do it with no light on at all, is that true ??


troy
The interesting thing about this thing, according to Andy's review, is that it takes a measure of the ambient light and compensates for it. :dunno

The Eye One software, by contrast, recommends that you have a minimum of ambient light, but it does not specify total darkness.

[windoze]

Here's the review (http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1174347)

Discuss the review, monitor calibration, here.



Andy, I have a question. when you run the software it asks you questions. it asks the same questions that I never answer correctly it seems. when it adjusts your contrast and brightness is asks do you see the "rings", does that mean do you just see them or do you seem them exactly as shown in the reference. in other words i see the three rings in the upper left corner and I see thew two rings in the right upper corner but they are not as defined as they are in the reference samples. do i adjust them or just continue??

btw, except for this, the prod is idiot proof.. almost.
why im asking you this - im not sure :scratch but maybe you know...

confused as always.........

[Andy]

Andy, I have a question. when you run the software it asks you questions. it asks the same questions that I never answer correctly it seems. when it adjusts your contrast and brightness is asks do you see the "rings", does that mean do you just see them or do you seem them exactly as shown in the reference. in other words i see the three rings in the upper left corner and I see thew two rings in the right upper corner but they are not as defined as they are in the reference samples. do i adjust them or just continue??

btw, except for this, the prod is idiot proof.. almost.
why im asking you this - im not sure :scratch but maybe you know...

confused as always.........

:uhoh I never got asked those questions. Is it a PeeCee thing?

[windoze]

:uhoh I never got asked those questions. Is it a PeeCee thing?

welll the manual doesnt say, but when you run the software its the first question asked: it says do you see the three rings in the upper left and the two rings in the upper right if yes - click next if no adjust your contrast and brightness..

this is lifted from the screen:

Adjust Display


printProductName();huey will help you adjust your monitor's brightness and contrast settings for best results by showing you some targets and asking you to make adjustments.

Do you see three dark rings in the upper left corner of this target? Do you see two light rings in the upper right corner of this target? If you can answer both of the questions "yes", select the Yes button. If you can't answer yes to both questions, select the No button. Then click NEXT
Hint: The lower left and the lower right corners of the target always show the correct number of rings for reference If you can answer both questions "yes", your monitor is adjusted correctly.

the thing is that yea i see them but they are not as defined as in the samples

troy

[petermaz]

I just read an add in Outdoor Photog Magazine for the Huey and you have the only review that makes any sense so far on the web. Good job. :thumb

[wxwax]

OK Andy, I've ordered this thing, if I'm the least bit displeased with it you're gonna hear all about, hooboy.

[Andy]

I just read an add in Outdoor Photog Magazine for the Huey and you have the only review that makes any sense so far on the web. Good job. :thumb

Thank you, Peter!

and Waxy: :flip

[wxwax]

I just used it on my laptop and my CRT. When I did the CRT, the room lighting was a single, shielded incandescent lightbulb. When I did the laptop, I kept the room almost completely dark.

In both cases, after using the Huey, the default setting was way too warm. By default, I mean the "Web Browsing and Photo Editing" option. On the CRT, I've switched to the "Cool, Medium Contrast." It's still not great, my whites still aren't white, but I can live with it for the evening.

On the laptop, there is no setting that looks good. They're all too warm.

I'm going to give the Huey another chance tomorrow, in daylight. Right now, I have to say I'm not pleased or impressed.

[Mike Lane]

I just got my Huey yesterday (Andy told me I had to after all). I just did the calibration on my Dell D610 and I think it works amazingly well. It did make the colors warmer; however, the whites are now white and not slightly blue. Browsing through some pics on dgrin, I have to say they look so much better now.

I give it a big thumbs up, I think it worked perfectly! And for $90, what more could I ask?

[wxwax]

I just re-Huey'd the CRT in overcast daylight. It still looks too warm on the default setting. It's as if the whites have a rose/yellowish blanket over them. And not enough contrast. But the whites seem too blue on any of the 'cool settings.'

From me, the Huey is getting a thumbs down, I'm afraid.

I'm going to have to learn how to use the One Eye for myself and make it work.

[marlof]

I've just tested it. Somehow I'm still getting used to the settings in the iBook (the brushed aluminum in some Mac apps looks slightly brownish now), but white is white, and the images look good. On my Windows desktop, using the huey made a world of difference. Thumbs up from me. :thumb

[wxwax]

"Brownish" = too warm.

[marlof]

"Brownish" = too warm.
I know Sid, but that's the weird thing: on the Mac it's a too warm in the brushed alu stuff, but the whites are clear white, and not too warm (rose or something). I'll have to look into it sometime, but since the Mac isn't my editing machine, I'm not too worried. The Windows desktop is not too warm, brushed alu is just that, whites are white, and the image colors look stunning. So on the Win desktop it´s a great success, on the Mac I will still have to look into it.

[wxwax]

I know Sid, but that's the weird thing: on the Mac it's a too warm in the brushed alu stuff, but the whites are clear white, and not too warm (rose or something). I'll have to look into it sometime, but since the Mac isn't my editing machine, I'm not too worried. The Windows desktop is not too warm, brushed alu is just that, whites are white, and the image colors look stunning. So on the Win desktop it´s a great success, on the Mac I will still have to look into it.
Interesting. On my Sony laptop it absolutely looks awful, way too warm. I'm going to do a system restore to get it back to the way it looked before. On the desktop CRT, I left the Huey plugged in to adjust for room light automatically. It went from too warm to far too bright over the last two days. :dunno Frustrating.

[Mike Lane]

I must just not have as critical of an eye as waxy. There was definitely a noticeable change from where the monitor was to where the huey put it. It did get warmer and it looked like it was wrong for a few seconds. But then my eyes adjusted and I can see that the grays are gray the whites are white, the colors are fantastic, and the brightness level is perfect. Wax, have you tried just letting yourself get used to it for a while?

[wxwax]

I must just not have as critical of an eye as waxy. There was definitely a noticeable change from where the monitor was to where the huey put it. It did get warmer and it looked like it was wrong for a few seconds. But then my eyes adjusted and I can see that the grays are gray the whites are white, the colors are fantastic, and the brightness level is perfect. Wax, have you tried just letting yourself get used to it for a while?
Yeah, I've let it run since I installed it. Click on the link in my sig to hear how I'm going to handle Huey from now on. :evil

[Mike Lane]

Meh, I was just sayin'. You know, it's kind of like when you go from a cold pool to a warm shower. It feels hotter than it really is kind of thing.

:dunno

But like I said, maybe I don't have as critical of an eye. That could be one of the reasons that my photography isn't all that great too.

[PossumCorner]

Discuss the review, monitor calibration, here.
We read the review and everyone's posts, and so bought Huey a few days ago. We had intended waiting another month or three til we could afford the one costing five times as much. Everything looks good (better, that is) on-screen. Will be emailing an order for just a few prints to the pro-lab we use tomorrow. Fingers are so crossed: their prints lately have not been as true as we would like, generally darker than expected. So hoping we are now calibrated to their printer's settings and will get prints as on the screen and won't need to try to second-guess it from now.

[Thusie]

http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Foghorn_Leghorn/ltfl_081.wav

Sid, Sid, Sid..you really need to get out more:rofl

[wxwax]

http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Foghorn_Leghorn/ltfl_081.wav

Sid, Sid, Sid..you really need to get out more:rofl
:rofl I've been waiting for someone to click on that and enjoy it! Thank you, Thusie!

[arroyoshark]

I discussed this new pantone huey product in my Archival Printing class at the community college this past week. The teacher, who uses both a GM eye-one and a monaco color calibrator was intrigued by the price point and ambient light feature. Another student, also a local photo equipment sales rep, mentioned that he thought the huey was aimed more at gamers than photographers. He recommended getting the new Pantone/GM eye-one LT, just intro'd. This one, he said, cost around $140 or so and had more features.

I use a laptop to process photos, and I decided that I would try the huey, based upon Andy's product review. Ordered it from Academic Superstore for current price of $69.95 shipped. Will post my experience with the device when I receive it.

The Eye-one LT also looks like a very useful device, tho.

[arroyoshark]

Well, I received the "huey" yesterday and installed the software on a HP DV1340 laptop. It is really a simple, straight-forward procedure to run the calibration with the device. It did warm up the screen, but the whites are indeed white. The screen seems too bright, tho.

There is not much documentation with the device. There is not a way to set gamma or kelvin. Don't know the values the huey set for them.

I am not enitirely clear or satisfied with how the huey continous ambient light measuring and adjusting functions. It generall seems like the screen is too intense.

I pulled up an Ole no Moire image. Seems like it carries too much magenta into the blues. As bright as the screen was, it was difficult to discern the lightest gray scales. Generally it seems to work better when the ambient light monitoring function is disabled.

I'm not sure if the brightness is all the huey color calibration. I had recently calibrated the laptop screen at school using a Monaco colorite calibration. The general colors seem nearly the same.

Don't know quite where to go from here with the screen intensity. Simply adjusting the screen brightness from keyboard darkens image, but doesn't change the hue.

[wxwax]

Don't know quite where to go from here with the screen intensity. Simply adjusting the screen brightness from keyboard darkens image, but doesn't change the hue.
FWIW, I noticed a definite change in screen brightness and white balance as the light in my room changed. Not a quick change, mind you, it seemed to take a long time, not discernable to the naked eye. But the screen wasn't as yellow/warm in the morning as it was at night. I must add that none of the changes seemed to give me a correct calibration. I think your fellow student had the right idea. I'm very pleased with the Eye One Display.

[wholenewlight]

I'd read Andy's Huey review. Sounded like the right thing for me - under $100 so I could afford without much planning, easy, quick, not a lot of options but maybe consistant color from my dell flat panel.

Bought one from Amazon for 69.99 and it arrived today. Easy install, easy setup.

But lousy color. I mean REALLY crappy color on my monitor. The dgrin background greys are now a warm "taupe" like color. My Smugmug Calibration Print (http://www.smugmug.com/help/calibration-1000.mg)(that I've been trying to eyeball to, pre-Huey) looks nothing like my monitor. In the Gretag colorchecker chart in the center, the white is pinkish. And the asian girl on the left now has a good warm tan.

So, being the good troubleshooter that I am :wink , I turn off the ambient room light monitoring and recalibrate. Note: I have recessed spots in my office with flourescent (supposedly daylight balanced) bulbs - probably a problem. Same result, taupe greys, warm whites.

So I have another idea. I turn off the office lights completly - no ambient light when it does it's first check of the calibration process (where it looks at the room light). Still really bad color with no change from previous results.

I now have gone to Pantone's website and tried to use the "ask a question" link. Link broken.

I've come to the conclusion that my little buddy, Huey, doesn't like Dell flat panel monitors and he will be heading back to Amazon. Wish I wouldn't have paid for the 2nd day air - no refund on that part of the bill.

:cry

[Ric Grupe]

Quote from photo-i (http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/Misc/Huey/Huey.htm) :

The huey is very easy to set up and use, it produced a pleasing (but not totally accurate) colouring on my LG LCD screen, you can see a difference in screen display colouring when the huey profile is compared to one created with a Spyder Pro 2. At £59 the huey represents good value for money, and it will appeal to the keen hobbyist who doesn't want to splash £140+ out on a Spyder. Bearing in mind that is aimed at the hobbyist market I would have liked a few more options, such as being able to calibrate a TV screen as well as a monitor.

My GretagMacbeth EyeOne Display works wonderfully.

[wholenewlight]

Quote from photo-i (http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/Misc/Huey/Huey.htm) :

The huey is very easy to set up and use, it produced a pleasing (but not totally accurate) colouring on my LG LCD screen, you can see a difference in screen display colouring when the huey profile is compared to one created with a Spyder Pro 2. At £59 the huey represents good value for money, and it will appeal to the keen hobbyist who doesn't want to splash £140+ out on a Spyder. Bearing in mind that is aimed at the hobbyist market I would have liked a few more options, such as being able to calibrate a TV screen as well as a monitor.

My GretagMacbeth EyeOne Display works wonderfully.

Hobbyist, prosumer, whatever the label - my monitor had substantially worse color than pre-calibration with the Huey.

But I know others have been happy with the device. I'll blame my Dell monitor.

I think I need an EyeOne Display like you! Maybe that will be a better match for my needs.

[Andy]

Dell flat panel monitors

:cry

I have seen way more uncalibrate-able Dell flat panels than I can shake a stick at. Huey going strong for me, with my Apple 23" ACD and also 15" Powerbook...

[wxwax]

And LaCie CRTs? :cool

[wholenewlight]

I have seen way more uncalibrate-able Dell flat panels than I can shake a stick at. Huey going strong for me, with my Apple 23" ACD and also 15" Powerbook...

B&H price on Apple 20" $774. Maybe that would make me :smile6

[Ric Grupe]

B&H price on Apple 20" $774. Maybe that would make me :smile6

If money was no object and I wanted a great monitor.....that new Eizo 21" or 24" Flexscans look nice. About $1200 and $1700 respectively.

If it's any help....on both my 18.1" and 23" Sony monitors, the contrast had to go way up and the brightness way down, while the red needed a boost. If you decide on the Eye One, make sure you use the advanced mode for calibration. The easy mode won't do it.

[wxwax]

If you decide on the Eye One, make sure you use the advanced mode for calibration. The easy mode won't do it.
:nod That was very much my experience too. The difference was pronounced, and the "easy" calibration was pretty bad.

[PhotoTraction]

After using the Pantone Huey my brightness and contrast really changed alot and are not good to me. Any ideas or sugestions?
I'm all new to calibration. Just trying to get good prints through smugmug.
Thanks:scratch http://www.phototraction.com/

[wholenewlight]

I tried and tried to get my Huey to work with my Dell flat panel monitor with no real success.

So I bought a new monitor. Looked at product reviews and bought a 20" Samsung 204B. It was on sale for just under $500. I wanted a Apple Cinema Display but the Samsung's $500 was still pushing my budget and I just souldn't afford the more expensive Apple.

Color was better with included calibration tools but I was still having problems getting my "view" to match the results I was getting from the prints that were coming back when I ordered prints.

So, I bought the Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Display calibrator from Adorama for about $200. Ric Grupe recommended that one. And I really like the results. My results are now much better. Just as easy to use as the Huey too.

I'm not a real fan of the Huey. :nah It just didn't deliver for me. Amazon did take it back for me and gave me a full refund including postage.

[arroyoshark]

I have recalibrated my HP 7000 series Laptop, w/17" screen, in a darkened room, but not totally dark, and I am happier with the result. My test prints on a Canon pixma printer, using printer profiles for matte paper, are similar to my screen. My observation is that while colors are on target, prints tend to be darker than monitor, but that, I think is due more to back lit screeen and reflected lit prints. I am getting more pleased with the Huey. I do not use the ambient light feature.

I think we are just too used to seeing bright, blue cast monitors.

[DanielB]

convinced my parents to get a Huey for all our monitors but ended up just being mine :)

working great on my Samsung 17" flat screen CRT...


B&H price on Apple 20" $774. Maybe that would make me
i can get it for 699 with my student discount:smile6

[TristanP]

I've come to the conclusion that my little buddy, Huey, doesn't like Dell flat panel monitors and he will be heading back to Amazon.
Which Dell LCD do you (or did you) have? I have the Ultrasharp 1905 and was considering the Huey until your experience.

[Andy]

After using the Pantone Huey my brightness and contrast really changed alot and are not good to me. Any ideas or sugestions?
I'm all new to calibration. Just trying to get good prints through smugmug.
Thanks:scratch http://www.phototraction.com/
What monitor, system, etc? Explain the details of your setup?

[wholenewlight]

Which Dell LCD do you (or did you) have? I have the Ultrasharp 1905 and was considering the Huey until your experience.

I had the:
FREE UPGRADE! 19 in E193FP Flat Panel Display

It's the one they include for no extra charge with new systems. Maybe the ultrasharp will be better???

[Ric Grupe]

So, I bought the Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Display calibrator from Adorama for about $200. Ric Grupe recommended that one. And I really like the results. My results are now much better. Just as easy to use as the Huey too.

Well, I am glad to here it worked out for you, as mine does.:nod

Version 3.6 of the software has a before and after comparison....which is a nice feature.

[PhotoTraction]

Can anyone who is using the Optix XR Pro tell me if it comes with printed user guide?
Adorama obveiously sent me a used unit they must have swept off the floor in the back room.
They won't recieve and more buisness from me , that's for sure.

[wxwax]

Can anyone who is using the Optix XR Pro tell me if it comes with printed user guide?
Adorama obveiously sent me a used unit they must have swept off the floor in the back room.
They won't recieve and more buisness from me , that's for sure.
By way of comparison, my Eye one system doesn't have a user guide. The instructions are contained in a PDF on the instal CD.

[nfutcher]

Hi. I'm using a Huey to calibrate my dell 2405fpw. It's a TFT so there is no brightness calibration - does anyone know what I'm supposed to set the brightness and the Red/Green/Blue at? At the moment they are set to 40 and 50/50/50. Thanks

[Bodley]

Any new thoughts on monitor calibration for a PC on XP?

Huey vs eye-one LT vs Spyder 2 or others.

[ChrisJ]

Saw the B&H deal, couldn't resist, so I ordered my Huey. It came last week.

I'm disappointed! No dual-monitor support; so I chose my primary, and it definitely seemed to create a reddish-cast. I tried it on my laptop, went through the whole calibration sequence, and there were no apparent color differences. The process seemed to "work", it just didn't work.... I've tried a couple more iterations with no better success for either system.

I think it's back to B&H for the Huey. I could probably fiddle with it and make it work a little better, but the lack of dual-monitor support really kills it for me (definitely should have looked that up before buying).

Also, reading the fine print on the license agreement, the software is only useable on *one* system per Huey. So for each system I need to buy a $60 Huey. I guess that might be the case for all the color correctors, though.

Back to the color corrector drawing board for me.

[Andy]

Also, reading the fine print on the license agreement, the software is only useable on *one* system per Huey. So for each system I need to buy a $60 Huey.
Meh. I use it on my Mac Pro and my Macbook Pro. That's just dumb of them.

[ChrisJ]

Meh. I use it on my Mac Pro and my Macbook Pro. That's just dumb of them.

I definitely agree... Here's the clip from the license (red emphasis added by me). IANAL, of course.

1) a) iii) Multiple installation / Single Use at the time
The Software may be used by You on one single personal computer or workstation at the time. Specifically, You may install the Software on more than one computer at Your premises or at Your home at a time, however, the use of the Software must always be connected with the use of the dongle provided by GretagMacbeth. You are not permitted to circumvent the protection given by the dongle. Furthermore, it is not allowed to use the Software or to network the Software to multiple computers or terminals without first obtaining an expanded license from GretagMacbeth to cover such additional users and computers. GretagMacbeth may replace the dongle by any other means of protection without previous announcement.

[Cipher]

An FYI, I bought a Huey about 6 or 8 weeks ago and it did the "brownish" color thing on all my machines. I contacted Pantone and they said that they were aware of this issue and were working on a solution. After a month or so they sent me a new Huey that took care of the problem. So if you are having this problem contact Pantone.

Andy (no not that one.)

[DavidTO]

I got a Huey for Xmas.


I love it.



:D

[Andy]

I got a Huey for Xmas.


I love it.



:D
I believe soon they'll have a dual-monitor support, as well :deal

[truth]

I believe soon they'll have a dual-monitor support, as well :deal

Will this be a software thing or a hardware thing?

Happy holidays.

[03FatBoy]

I just installed my Huey.

I've got to say that I like it. There was a pretty big change from the before and after.

I'm comparing the new screen to the two test prints from the smugmug calibration and I've got to say it's dead nuts on now.

I'm impressed.

It does seem to give a slightly rosy/warmer look to things. But I really think it just needs some 'gettin' used to' as the match between screen and test prints is lookin' good.

My 2 cents.

[03FatBoy]

Do have one question for you Andy.

It's about the different "color settings" you can use with Huey (in the prefs area).

There are so many settings in there, and they all change the color/temp of things quite a bit. Seems to me, that if you choose one over the other, you are in fact changing the calibration of the screen - something you just got done doing.

Am I missing something here?

[wxwax]

An FYI, I bought a Huey about 6 or 8 weeks ago and it did the "brownish" color thing on all my machines. I contacted Pantone and they said that they were aware of this issue and were working on a solution. After a month or so they sent me a new Huey that took care of the problem. So if you are having this problem contact Pantone.

Andy (no not that one.)
Maybe that's the problem with mine. :dunno Whatever, they lost me and I'm not going back.

[Andy]

Do have one question for you Andy.

It's about the different "color settings" you can use with Huey (in the prefs area).

There are so many settings in there, and they all change the color/temp of things quite a bit. Seems to me, that if you choose one over the other, you are in fact changing the calibration of the screen - something you just got done doing.

Am I missing something here?
Yes. Choose the one for photos and web display.

[Mike Lane]

:huh

Get this, I think the jerkwad burglers stole my huey! What the heck man?

[David_S85]

I believe soon they'll have a dual-monitor support, as well :deal

The oft-rumored Huey Duey?

[jdryan3]

Any new thoughts on monitor calibration for a PC on XP?

Huey vs eye-one LT vs Spyder 2 or others.

The Huey had just been released last year. I wanted the dual monitor support and had heard some mixed reviews on the Huey. But I never used it, so I'll defer to the other posters. I got the Spyder2 and used it on my Sony Trintron 19" (now as old as XP) and after calibration the profile was very clsoe to what had been running after 3-4 years. On my Dell 2405 FPW, WOW!, what a difference. It is mainly a function of the backlight on LCD, but some flat panels do have gamma and other settings. Obviously no RGB guns.

The other half of the story is once calibrated, I started using ICC profiles for the various papers I used on my Canon printer. I also do proofing in PS. And what I see on the screen is what comes out! Amazing! :wink

[Andy]

The oft-rumored Huey Duey?:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[yldan]

sorry... i have to completely agree with wxwax. waste of $75 for me. everything is just BROWN. (for instance, the black and silver of this page are brown... and darker brown).

i'm on a dell laptop with an ultrabrite screen, i've heard those are harder to calibrate. maybe that's the problem? (probably similar to wazxy's sony laptop)

I just re-Huey'd the CRT in overcast daylight. It still looks too warm on the default setting. It's as if the whites have a rose/yellowish blanket over them. And not enough contrast. But the whites seem too blue on any of the 'cool settings.'

From me, the Huey is getting a thumbs down, I'm afraid.

I'm going to have to learn how to use the One Eye for myself and make it work.

[rutt]

I've had some questions about the Huey open for weeks both here and on ACT without any good response. Maybe I also need to call Pantone.

See:

http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=477544&postcount=9
http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=478221&postcount=15
http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=478295&postcount=17

I'm inclined to think this is because either the Huey or the software that comes with it sucks and that some more "professional" solution would get this right. It really seems like the least one could expect that a medium neutral gray would come out neutral gray after calibration, doesn't it?

[rutt]

I called Pantone and have some new information to report:

There is a known manufacturing defect with many of the Hueys which have already shipped. It causes some (mostly notbook) displays to be calibrated with a cast. A phone call with this problem description will get you a replacement.
The replacements are back ordered, but expected any day.
Intel mac users should visit the Pantone site and download the latest version of the software, which is a universal binary and will allow one to open preferences and disable the horrible nag about recalibrating. Very important for that notebook which might be nowhere near the Huey.

I did #3 and it still calibrated the display with the same cool cast. Now I'm waiting for the replacement. I'll post when I have a chance to try it out.

[wxwax]

I called Pantone and have some new information to report:

There is a known manufacturing defect with many of the Hueys which have already shipped. It causes some (mostly notbook) displays to be calibrated with a cast. A phone call with this problem description will get you a replacement.
The replacements are back ordered, but expected any day.
Intel mac users should visit the Pantone site and download the latest version of the software, which is a universal binary and will allow one to open preferences and disable the horrible nag about recalibrating. Very important for that notebook which might be nowhere near the Huey.

I did #3 and it still calibrated the display with the same cool cast. Now I'm waiting for the replacement. I'll post when I have a chance to try it out.
Excellent info! Thanks Rutt.

[urbanaries]

hey Sid-

Been following the threads on color calibration devices and you seem to be the only one with a Vaio, too. It seems the hueys do well w/ macs, not so well with PC LCDs and/or laptops? Have you settled finally on the Eye One, or anything else?

I have a Sony Vaio laptop (eco brite) and a HP desktop w/LCD monitor, which is terribly green and contrasty.

I don't understand color calibration exactly, but does the EZPrints ICC have a comparable monitor profile? That's probably an ignorant statement (i don't know what I don't know) but seems logical to this technophobe. I tried to install the printer profile as a monitor profile and I could feel the HP laughing at me.

any recs?

lynne

[DJ-S1]

I can't speak for laptop LCDs, but I have a PC running XP with a Viewsonic VA1912wb LCD and the Huey works for me. I haven't had the color cast problem luckily.

And referring to previous posts, it seems the re-calibrate nag screen is showing up every 3 weeks or so - not too bad. Since it calibrates so quickly, I don't mind doing it often.

YMMV...

[rutt]

According to Pantone Customer Service, it's kind of unpredictable which displays will miscalibrate with the defective Hueys. And the issue is hardware not software. So I'll repeat. Don't buy one right now. Or buy directly from Pantone if you must buy.

[wxwax]

hey Sid-

Been following the threads on color calibration devices and you seem to be the only one with a Vaio, too. It seems the hueys do well w/ macs, not so well with PC LCDs and/or laptops? Have you settled finally on the Eye One, or anything else?

I have a Sony Vaio laptop (eco brite) and a HP desktop w/LCD monitor, which is terribly green and contrasty.

I don't understand color calibration exactly, but does the EZPrints ICC have a comparable monitor profile? That's probably an ignorant statement (i don't know what I don't know) but seems logical to this technophobe. I tried to install the printer profile as a monitor profile and I could feel the HP laughing at me.

any recs?

lynne

I can't help you with the ICC stuff, only IPCC. (Climate joke, there!)

I'm very satisfied with the Eye One on my 21" CRT display. I haven't used it on the Vaio.

Having read Rutt's post, I plan to eventually send my Huey back for an exchange. I respect Andy, Baldy et al too much to think they're nuts for trusting their Hueys. I assume (until proven wrong :evil) that I simply have one of the bad copies.

[Pamela]

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=13047&A=details&Q=&sku=477676&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Is this the correct Huey for my MacBook - Intel duo ?
After reading the Huey Pantone thread, Ive have decided to calibrate.
Thank you

[Andy]

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=13047&A=details&Q=&sku=477676&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Is this the correct Huey for my MacBook - Intel duo ?
After reading the Huey Pantone thread, Ive have decided to calibrate.
Thank you
:nod

[wxwax]

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=13047&A=details&Q=&sku=477676&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Is this the correct Huey for my MacBook - Intel duo ?
After reading the Huey Pantone thread, Ive have decided to calibrate.
Thank you
That one's black.

The green ones work better on Macs.

[kres]

That one's black.

The green ones work better on Macs.

Can you expand on that Wax? I've got a black one and it works just fine. (I love my Huey...)

Of course I DO have this feeling that I've stumbled onto a joke grenade. :D

[Pamela]

Can you expand on that Wax? I've got a black one and it works just fine. (I love my Huey...)

Of course I DO have this feeling that I've stumbled onto a joke grenade. :D

Green? :scratch




Thank you Guys

[cmason]

Green? :scratch




Thank you Guys

Pamela: how did you get it priced at $59? A generic B&H search brings it up for $79? $59 is a steal!

[rutt]

Well they sent me a replacement but it still creates the exact same wrong profile for the Macbook Pro with glossy screen. (Obvious greenish cast, espeically obvious with certifiably neutral midtone grays). I'm pleased as punch with the job it did for my Cinema Display.

Using the Apple calibration tool, I did quite a bit better than the Huey did, but it's clearly also wrong. I'm thinking this might be a particularly difficult display to get right.

[pathfinder]

Would you get the mate screen if you were to do it over?

I am considering th MacBook Pro upgrade for myself, when CS3 is available.

[Seefutlung]

That one's black.

The green ones work better on Macs.

I just finished painting my black Huey green ... and you're right Sid, it does work better. mmmhh ... wonder what red will do?

Gary

[wxwax]

Well they sent me a replacement but it still creates the exact same wrong profile for the Macbook Pro with glossy screen. (Obvious greenish cast, espeically obvious with certifiably neutral midtone grays). I'm pleased as punch with the job it did for my Cinema Display.

Using the Apple calibration tool, I did quite a bit better than the Huey did, but it's clearly also wrong. I'm thinking this might be a particularly difficult display to get right.
I haven't sent mine in for replacement yet.

But the monitor it failed to profile correctly is a 21" LaCie CRT. :dunno

[urbanaries]

According to Pantone Customer Service, it's kind of unpredictable which displays will miscalibrate with the defective Hueys. And the issue is hardware not software. So I'll repeat. Don't buy one right now. Or buy directly from Pantone if you must buy.

hey Rutt

any update on this? safe to buy? if not now, when? :D

[wxwax]

hey Rutt

any update on this? safe to buy? if not now, when? :D


From here (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=504074#post504074).

Well they sent me a replacement but it still creates the exact same wrong profile for the Macbook Pro with glossy screen. (Obvious greenish cast, espeically obvious with certifiably neutral midtone grays). I'm pleased as punch with the job it did for my Cinema Display.

Using the Apple calibration tool, I did quite a bit better than the Huey did, but it's clearly also wrong. I'm thinking this might be a particularly difficult display to get right.

[ChrisJ]

Not sure about the bug... but the Huey Pro is coming out next month... It has "multiple" monitor support, but I'm not sure if that means "dual" monitor support.

http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?pg=20381&ca=10

[rutt]

Would you get the mate screen if you were to do it over?

I am considering th MacBook Pro upgrade for myself, when CS3 is available.

I love the glossy screen, and I really believe this problem is specific to the Huey software. I just re-calibrated with the apple displays utility and this time I let it use 1.8 gamma and I think it looks pretty good.

I'd love to hear how your Sypder Pro (if that's what it is) does. Anyway, at this point at least with this tool and this display, it seems that Dan Margulis is right. I got best results with my eye instead of the spectrometer (but I have to say the Huey did great with the ACD.)

[Pamela]

Pamela: how did you get it priced at $59? A generic B&H search brings it up for $79? $59 is a steal!

Try this:
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=1939&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=&Submit.x=17&Submit.y=12&Submit=Go&shs=&ci=13047&ac=

Sorry so late, I didnt see your post:D

[Poindexter]

I just did my first calibration with the Huey, and it looks like contrast is a bit better. However, I do have the green hue everyone posts about. I use dual monitors and intentionally calibrated only one monitor. I do this because graphic design is part of my job and I like to see how something looks under different settings. My other monitor shows a red hue compared to my calibrated monitor, so I guess I'm Xmasing it :D

[Bendr]

Out of curiousity, How does the Huey mount on to the screen?

[Mike Lane]

Out of curiousity, How does the Huey mount on to the screen?super glue.

Kidding. Little tiny suction cups. :thumb

[rutt]

I ordered a spyder 2 pro to see if it could do a better job on the macbook pro than the Huey. I'll report when I get it.

[rutt]

The Sypder 2 Pro rules and the Huey drools.

Calibrated with the Syder 2 Pro, the Mac Pro 17" with glossy screen looks right. Comparing it with the ADC 30" also calibrated with the Sypder the grays are neutral on both and flesh, sky, vegetation tones look right on both. The ACD is brighter and more vivid, but that's to be expected since it costs as much as the whole notebook (well a little more because when I bought it you also had to buy a new graphics card to support it.)

So? If the Huey works for your monitor, then fine. But it doesn't work for that 17" glossy display, even after Pantone replaced it. Spend the extra $100 if you got it and get a professional quality tool instead of a toy. Your time is probably worth it.

[rutt]

[Crossposting because there are two very similar threads, apparently with different subscriber. Mods: perhaps merge them?]

In short, my experience with the Huey was 1 for 2. It did a fine job with my ACD 30" and a really really bad job with the glossy macbook pro 17" display. In fact the job job with the macbook was sooo bad that both the default profile and my manually created one looked MUCH better. The Huey created one with a green cast. I even called Pantone and they sent me a replacement unit, but it still got the same bad results.

Got a Sypder 2 Pro for about $100 more than the Huey and it went 2 for 2. Both displays look right with it's profiles. The ACD is naturally brighter and more vivid, but they are both neutral and both show all the steps in various sample gray scale test images.

Bottom line:
Spend the extra $100 for a professional tool or save the $70 and calibrate manually. Or I suppose you can gamble on the Huey especially if you don't mind returning it.
No need to avoid the glossy macbook display. It's great. Just don't expect the Huey to handle it.

[DJ-S1]

I had the Spyder 2 (still do actually) and I hated it. Yes the colors looked good but it took forever to calibrate. So lonag in fact that it discouraged me from calibrating as often as I should. The Huey is light years faster and works great on my Viewsonic LCD so I'm much happier with it.

Come to think of it, I need to sell that Spyder 2 someday...

[rutt]

I had the Spyder 2 (still do actually) and I hated it. Yes the colors looked good but it took forever to calibrate. So lonag in fact that it discouraged me from calibrating as often as I should. The Huey is light years faster and works great on my Viewsonic LCD so I'm much happier with it.

Come to think of it, I need to sell that Spyder 2 someday...

Find someone with a Macbook with glossy display. But I didn't find that the Syder was that slow. I'd rather it waste its time than having the Huey waste my time.

[DJ-S1]

No, I understand why you need the Spyder 2. I was just saying why I like the Huey. Also, I bought the Spyder last year, it's certainly possible that yours is newer and faster than mine was.

Glad you found a solution that works -

[pathfinder]

I missed your post earlier post John, sorry.

I am glad to hear the Spyder2Pro worked fine on the glassy screen MacBook Pro as well as the ACD. That has been my experience as well - although my Power Book has a matte screen and I may elect to stay with a matte screen when I upgrade later this spring.

[rutt]

The only downside of the glossy screen (now that I can calibrate it) is that it needs to be cleaned a little more often than the matte. Perhaps it wouldn't work as well outside? But then nothing seems to work outside.

[pathfinder]

I agree that the Spyder2 Pro is Sloooow, but I find I can just let it do its thing when I don't need to use the computer.

I think it has gotten a little faster with the newer upgrades to the software also.

[rutt]

I agree that the Spyder2 Pro is Sloooow, but I find I can just let it do its thing when I don't need to use the computer.

I think it has gotten a little faster with the newer upgrades to the software also.

I was expecting 15 minutes, but I think it's more like 5. Not really that much different that the horrible Huey which didn't actually stick to the screens so I had to hold it. The Sypder-2's big suction cup did stick to the back of both displays no problem, so I could do whatever and come back and it was done. Since I don't intend to do it very often, it's a total win compared with having to hold the Huey for minutes and then getting an unusable profile.

[DavidTO]

having to hold the Huey for minutes and then getting an unusable profile.


I didn't have this problem but I suspect that it's the cause of your bad profile. Holding the Huey against the LCD can't be good for the results.

[Andy]

I was expecting 15 minutes, but I think it's more like 5. Not really that much different that the horrible Huey which didn't actually stick to the screens so I had to hold it. The Sypder-2's big suction cup did stick to the back of both displays no problem, so I could do whatever and come back and it was done. Since I don't intend to do it very often, it's a total win compared with having to hold the Huey for minutes and then getting an unusable profile.
Pebcak?

I'm having no issues with either the 23" ACDs or my 17" macbook

[David_S85]

...beginning with Pamela's thread Huey Pantone, Feb. 28th, 2007, and up to just above.

David

[rutt]

I think it's the glossy screen but Andy, perhaps your macbook is also glossy? Or perhaps you don't mind the green cast?

Anyway, I'm not the only one with this problem. Pantone knows about it so perhaps they'll fix it someday.

In the meantime, the Sypder-2 is tried and true.

[Zoom Raider]

I was wondering if that Huey monitor color correction system gadget really works? `Cos I'd hate to buy it and see no difference at all and have a hard time trying to get a refund on it. I've heared that it really works, and when it corrects the color on the monitor, then that's what it'll print out on photo-paper - better pictures; but that's what salespeople say at stores. I just wanna hear it from you guys. Thanks!:):

Bet some of you thought this was a thread about Huey Lewis & the News band, huh?:rofl

[Stef]

Here is what Andy has to say about it:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=27202

I have it, and really like it. I don't know if it's as good as the PRO ones, but it works for me. :wink

[Zoom Raider]

Does that Huey thing really have to hang on its cord over monitors at all times to work? Hopefully not, but that's what I see on all the magazine ads, and on its own box.

[Seefutlung]

Normally it sits on a stand near the monitor. It is only placed on the monitor for calibration. One of the best features is that the Huey will adjust for changes in room lighting.

Gary

[hassiman]

They have just released the HueyPro.

The new Pro Huey now allows calibration of multiple monitors, ajustable Gamma and white point and more. The software has also been given a much improved help file.

This is a major upgrade for this unit and should make it much more useful for those of nus that want a well-calibrated monitor.:clap

[marlof]

As I think I wrote earlier in this thread, my Huey worked ok on my (main photo editing station) desktop, but gave a brownish color cast on my iBook. When the latter died, I had it replaced with a Sony Vaio C-series. The brownish color cast was even worse.

I found out the color cast was a FAQ at the reseller (Colour Confidence (http://support.colourconfidence.com/?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=125)). So I contacted the reseller and they informed me that there's a range of bad Huey's out there. They sent me a little application to get the serial number out of my Huey, and then had that checked by the manufacturer. Sure enough, they agreed that the photocells in my Huey were not good, and had me send in the Huey (one month out of warranty). They would replace it for a new one, free of charge.

I just received the replacement Huey, hooked it up to the C-series and now I have a grey on black theme again in Dgrin, in stead of lightbrown on dark brown. And no, it didn't kill the colors on the desktop either, it now works on both screens.

[wxwax]

As I think I wrote earlier in this thread, my Huey worked ok on my (main photo editing station) desktop, but gave a brownish color cast on my iBook. When the latter died, I had it replaced with a Sony Vaio C-series. The brownish color cast was even worse. I found out the color cast was a FAQ at the reseller (Colour Confidence (http://support.colourconfidence.com/?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=125)). So I contacted the reseller and they informed me that there's a range of bad Huey's out there. They sent me a little application to get the serial number out of my Huey, and then had that checked by the manufacturer. Sure enough, they agreed that the photocells in my Huey were not good, and had me send in the Huey (one month out of warranty). I just received the replacement Huey, hooked it up to the C-series and now I have a grey on black theme again in Dgrin, in stead of lightbrown on dark brown.
Nice detective work.

Your defective Huey sounds like my defective Huey. Good to know that Andy wasn't crazy for liking the thing. :lol3

Thanks for this highly informative post.

[urbanaries]

just received my huey pro direct from pantone (+ a free 1GB flash drive, nice!)

Apparently my desktop was too green (knew that) and my laptop very blue.

After calibration both LCDs are pretty low contrast. I had trouble with the "adjust brightness and contrast to match top and bottom halves." On my Sony Vaio laptop I can only find brightness adjustments? (help, Sid?)

A color image (http://www.lynnehulbert.com/gallery/2780262#148089797) from my most recent shoot looks ok on my calibrated monitor. I expected to find the set much too cool now, since I edited it on the laptop. :scratch

[W.W. Webster]

A color image (http://www.lynnehulbert.com/gallery/2780262#148089797) from my most recent shoot looks ok on my calibrated monitor.This is password protected! :dunno

[urbanaries]

Linky (http://www.lynnehulbert.com/photos/148972569-L.jpg) updated OOPS!

[wxwax]

After calibration both LCDs are pretty low contrast. I had trouble with the "adjust brightness and contrast to match top and bottom halves." On my Sony Vaio laptop I can only find brightness adjustments? (help, Sid?)



As I recall, I had to let the Vaio laptop use the auto calibration because it didn't have controls, and as I noted, wasn't pleased with the results. So I reset the machine to an earlier date.

[urbanaries]

As I recall, I had to let the Vaio laptop use the auto calibration because it didn't have controls, and as I noted, wasn't pleased with the results. So I reset the machine to an earlier date.

Hmmm, I thought your troubles were related to the defects? I waited until the Huey pro came out, and bought direct from Pantone? Hmmm.

[wxwax]

Hmmm, I thought your troubles were related to the defects? I waited until the Huey pro came out, and bought direct from Pantone? Hmmm.
My copy of the Huey did not perform well on the laptop or the desktop, either in full auto mode or manual mode. I now assume that I have a defective copy of the product. I have not returned it, I'm using EyeOne instead.

[rutt]

The empirical fact is that the Hueys don't seem to work perfectly for every computer/os/monitor combo. When they do work, they do the job and that's fine. When they don't work, well, what's worse than a hardware calibration tool that does a worse job than manual calibration?

There don't seem to be the same problems with the older, slightly more expansive gizmos, at least I haven't heard of them.

[ChrisJ]

I took a chance on the Pro after my previous unhappy experience (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=381521&postcount=66) with the Huey.

I must say that I'm a happy customer now! Both of my monitors at home look good, and even my laptop/2nd monitor combo at work looks the same!

[SloYerRoll]

So I have the regular Huey. (non pro version)
I run dual screens w/ Vista.

About two weeks ago, seemingly out of nowhere. Both monitors became perfectly calibrated. Before there was a definite blue cast on the non calibrated monitor.
Pantone says that huey pro is the only device that actually controls dual monitors.

So I figured out why this was happening:
Recently I've moved my main work machine a few times and the #1 & #2 monitors were switched from port 1&2. So I had to switch settings though my Nvidia control panel so me screens were oriented properly. Somehow this allowed calibration of BOTH monitors and I'm pretty stoked about this inadvertent work around!

If you want details on how to do this. Please PM me. I'd like to work out some tests w/ ppl that have dual displays so I can create repeatable results. THis way we can share the knowledge w/ our fellow grinners. (just don't squeal to Pantone!)

[Pupator]

Sounds interesting!

[DavidTO]

Ya know, the Huey you have will upgrade to Pro for a $30 fee. You download the new software, and the Huey gets a firmware update. Easy, and betterer than any workaround you can think up. Easily worth $30 to save the headaches. And it will calibrate each monitor separately, not apply one calibration to both.

[colourbox]

I don't have a Huey but in general my understanding is that monitors can be separately calibrated when both the OS and the video card support it. On the Mac you can usually assume that any connected monitor can have its own profile. On Windows you have to make sure your card can assign a separate profile to each monitor, because many video cards don't have the ability.

[DavidTO]

I don't have a Huey but in general my understanding is that monitors can be separately calibrated when both the OS and the video card support it. On the Mac you can usually assume that any connected monitor can have its own profile. On Windows you have to make sure your card can assign a separate profile to each monitor, because many video cards don't have the ability.

The Huey software only supports one display unless you opt for the pro feature. It will only generate one profile.

[SloYerRoll]

It will only generate one profile.I'm still working on the details. But I know that my displays didn't look the same before calibration. (one had a much more servere blue cast) and now they are both identical in color & brightness. If they shared the same identical profile. Wouldn't you see a difference like the way the monitors looked before they were calibrated?

I don't doubt that the firmware upgrade is worth it. There's no need for me to purchase it though if I already have matching monitors now. It's jsut intrigued me as to how to recreate this. I'm not on a quest to save 30 bucks for the world.

I don't know if it makes a difference, but my monitors are identical. From what I read allot of ppl use second monitors but they are other brands.

-Jon

[swetzel]

I have a 24" aluminum iMac with a glossy screen. How does the Huey work with glossy screen calibration? I purchases a Spyder Express over a year ago after taking to datacolor and having them tell me that that was what I should buy for my glossy screen. It never worked well.

I contacted datacolor again recently and asked them if a spyder express would work on a glossy screen, they told me that it would not do a good job and I should buy one of their newer products...

Guess whose color calibrator I never want to purchase again?

[printergirl]

Looking to get the Huey Pro. Notice the discount code is no longer working with Pantone. I know this thread was started a long time ago. Is there an updated code or offer no longer good? Best place to purchase this item with a good price, if not?