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ginger_55
Dec-27-2005, 07:59 AM
I went down to the marsh (12/27/2005)
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/49772743-L.jpg
To get this photo:
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of the New Cooper River Bridge, and I almost got sucked under the mud which was like quick sand. My shoes got pulled off, individually, I kept throwing them ahead of me. I did lose a sock completely to the mud. I couldn't carry my backpack, so I kept throwing it ahead of me. Finally, I couldn't stand up at all, so I crawled in spurts back to some solid ground. A lesson learned...................and this photography stuff can be dangerous.
Because of the tide, I am not going to be able to get out there at a good time any time this week. But I do have to go back and get a sunset photo, or something close to it, and keep on the look out for other things.
First, I have to warm up. And let my shoes dry off. Bill got most of the mud off, he said.
This is the best picture I got. I went there, 5 minutes away, at 8 AM, I was hoping for better light.
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/49772759-L.jpg
livinginoz
Dec-27-2005, 10:16 AM
ginger, i have to admire the lengths you go to to get your shots. amazing :):
illuminati919
Dec-27-2005, 10:44 AM
The second shot is great, I love the way the bridge dips down.
Sometimes photography can get rugged, sometimes you even have to lose a sock.:rofl
While I haven't "quite" risked life and limb, I have found myself in some places that weren't entirely safe in the name of photography!
I do have an aversion to wet, sticky, slimy marsh muck! That would have stopped me cold! No photo is worth that!!!! But I'll climb out on rocks, get really close to cliff edges (first I try to remember when we last had rain -- the wet ones crumble easiest) and even though it's very difficult to get back up, I will get down on the ground when using the swivel lens doesn't quite work.
That's one interesting bridge! We haven't seen any like that, altho there is one somewhere up the coast. We were supposed to get a new bridge across the bay, but I haven't heard anything recently.
Will the old one be kept or torn down?
ginger_55
Dec-27-2005, 12:58 PM
Oh, gosh, thanks, you all. I just woke up from a Looooong winter's nap!
Now I am too warm.
Yes, I am liking the second one more and more. I like the way the light is hitting the front. I let that light come out, thought I had blown it, but I was down for the count, sooooo, anyway, I agree with you all.
It is too late right now, and I really don't want to, go out and take a sunset shot, there would be no clouds in the sky anyway.
Dee, they are blowing the old one up slowly, piece by piece. Big events each time. Then the pieces are being taken out for a man made reef for the fish!
Also, what I did with the marsh, I had done it before and gotten away with it. In other words it had been drier before. I will never do that again unless it is definitely certified low tide. That stuff "sucks". It is indescribable and dangerous. I was wondering, before I went to sleep, about all the people who go out in the marshes after oysters and stuff.
Anyway, when I lived in Denver, I went too high up some rocks, with my husband to be (we were young) and my young children, they were red rocks (doesn't matter). The thing I learned about rocks is that it can be very different going up (easier) than it is coming down (almost impossible). That is kind of how the marsh was. By the time I knew I was in trouble.........I WAS definitely in trouble.
I think all's well now.
Thanks for looking and commenting,
ginger (I took photos while I was on my way back, I was darned if I was going to lose my shoes, socks and life and get nothing. And I called my husband to tell him where I was. He couldn't understand me, he doesn't know this area, it is not where he works. So, I told him that if I didn't call back in ten minutes to call someone.) The irony was that second picture was taken outside of the dangerous area, smile.
JamesJWeg
Dec-27-2005, 01:03 PM
That is cool, the old and new together, nice shot, I really like #2.
James.
ginger_55
Dec-27-2005, 03:30 PM
Thanks, James, yes, I am glad I am kind of getting a photo record of the "downfall", haha, of the old cooper river bridges.
Next time they blow them up, they will be in the main shipping canal and only have a certain number of hours to get the debris cleared away. Mega fines could ensue!
Meanwhile, there is the "ghost" of the Old Bridge, along with the New one.
ginger
JamesJWeg
Dec-27-2005, 06:31 PM
It is a little sad to see a legend die, I have personally watched the worlds best runners race accross that bridge.
James.
aero-nut
Dec-27-2005, 09:02 PM
Ginger, I have to agree with the others. You really should get a "amazing effort to get the shot" award. But, I'm a little disappointed... you didn't get a shot of your shoes stuck in the mud? :wink Just kidding. Thanks for sharing your adventure with us.
ginger_55
Dec-27-2005, 09:38 PM
Gosh, you all, I feel terrible that I waited until I thought I was safe to photograph my shoes. I couldn't photograph my sock, my foot was in the mud to the ankle and when I pulled it out there was no sock.
I worked this up post haste, it is probably the most close up of my feet and shoes. My bag was pretty muddy, too. After all I was throwing it ahead of me, onto the mud, as I crawled. Actually with the grass out there, well, I had to throw things onto some bits of grass or they would have gone down immediately.
Anyway, I sat here and learned to breathe again. It was the first place I felt really safe. Being the photographer type, I did take photos of my feet and shoes. I tried to compose it as artistically as possible with the trees, grass and all. If you want a photo of my bag, I will have to work up another one, but this is best of feet and bag, plus it is probably more artistic.:D
ginger
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/49871674-L.jpg
Thanks for recognizing the amt of work I put into my photography.
Did I mention that the temp was in the thirties and my foot felt little pain as it was numb.:1drink
Thusie
Dec-28-2005, 02:46 AM
Love the second shot! brave lady:thumb Like the muddy foot shot too. Muddy feet are fun, cold muddy feet are not fun.
livinginoz
Dec-28-2005, 11:43 AM
:bow
ginger, i salute your diligence
Flyinggina
Dec-28-2005, 01:09 PM
The photo of your feet is wonderful. It works even without the back story. You should start a series: "What I have gone through for my art." You could add the shot taken in the emergency room. Maybe someone should start a thread for dgrinners to post photographs of some of the trials and tribultions they have faced while trying for the perfect shot. Assuming they have had the presence of mind to take a picture like you did - and an artistic picture at that.:D
Oh, and by the way. The bridge photos are beautiful. I love the juxtaposition of the new on the old. And the colors. And the perspective. I agree that the second one is probably best, but I love the colors in the first.
Virginia
ginger_55
Dec-28-2005, 05:53 PM
Thanks, Gina, re foot photo. You know I think you are onto something. As an interested party, smile, my foot and face photo seem more interesting than most of the other photos I do.
However, I am hoping to avoid a repeat, or continuation of these types of things. I had to order new tennis shoes today, and those WERE new tennis shoes. To say the least of the face issue........ So I think it would be a great idea for a thread of mishaps, I hope that someone else could contribute next...........not that I am wishing misfortune to anyone, maybe it could be a photo of a past mishap, hopefully forgotten.
I kid you not when I say, sad to say, but those may be my best photos. Or in collaboration with Bill as he took the face one, I took the feet one. (On the face one, I was the art director, I told him exactly what I wanted.)
ginger
ginger_55
Dec-28-2005, 05:56 PM
Title: Changing Landscape Date: 12 28 2005
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Osprey Whisperer
Dec-29-2005, 05:40 AM
Hi Ginger. SOme nice bridge shots. :thumb Curious as to what lens you are using. (17-40L ?). Remember to wipe your feet before you go in the house. :D
vandana
Dec-29-2005, 08:28 AM
Wow ! all three are great especially the cloudy one ! they are very good shots for a lot of pain and mud ! you do go to great lengths for these pics .. Take care of yourself !
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 10:51 AM
Thanks, all.
My PS CS2 crashed, the only program on my PC. It was illegal, had planned on going legal in Feb with tax return.
Now I can't do photography til then unless I come up with the money. No credit cards, no credit, no money, no savings..............I finally asked a dog owning friend.
It is 500.00 as I have the registration for Elements 2, found it in their data base. I was legal at the beginning. But it is not enough to qualify me for 169.00 deal.
I am going nuts.
Or more........................
I was working on more of those bridge photos when it kept crashing the whole PC after many warnings of program error. As long as I dont' use it, the PC is fine.
ginger
Did I mention that somehow I got sick: sore throat, headache, etc. I could run over and do the bridge photos anyway, but I have nowhere to put them. So. No good there.
Sorry to rant AND Whine, ..................
I have been totally honest with them, even cried. Except some of the spontaneity was lost with Bill translating.
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 10:53 AM
Funny thing is this photo fits FMs theme of The Future, too.
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We were going to Ace Basin today. Bill's only vacation.
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 10:55 AM
Oh, yes, 17-40L
ginger (love that lens. wish I had a bunch of lenses. Having three does not leave any to sell.)
mwgrice
Dec-29-2005, 04:40 PM
What you need to do is to make friends with a student somewhere. The academic discount is nice. My wife paid about $200 for the whole CS2 suite (the price for the whole suite turned out to be less than for just photoshop). Considering the cost of her tuition, though...
I'm trying not to be next in your series. I nearly fell in the creek a couple of weeks ago trying to get a reflection shot in one of the few spots where there wasn't a significant amount of ice.
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 04:56 PM
What you need to do is to make friends with a student somewhere. The academic discount is nice. My wife paid about $200 for the whole CS2 suite (the price for the whole suite turned out to be less than for just photoshop). Considering the cost of her tuition, though...
I'm trying not to be next in your series. I nearly fell in the creek a couple of weeks ago trying to get a reflection shot in one of the few spots where there wasn't a significant amount of ice.
HAHAHA, you need to try harder!
My grandson is a college student. I asked about 3 months ago, or longer, that he look into this for me. No dice, DAMN!
Sometimes kids today drive me nuts! (Some kids)
Thanks for the suggestion, I don't know any students other than the grandson. Nor teachers.
It gets wearing to "beg" for this.
In actuality Amazon has these things for 150.00, but I am afraid that they aren't legal, that is where I first started my life of photoshop crime.
Smile,
ginger (watch those injuries, but if they happen, you know what to do.....) Photograph!
mwgrice
Dec-29-2005, 07:04 PM
Ouch. Well, that sucks. Let me rephrase that: you need to make friends with somebody at a school where you can get a decent academic discount.
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 07:58 PM
I am thinking that if I am serious about this, I should go back to school. It has been my experience that anything I want done, I have to do myself. If I want it done well, I definitely have to do it myself, has anyone else had that experience?
Smile,
ginger
ginger_55
Dec-29-2005, 08:07 PM
I managed to do this this afternoon, before I realized that I really had a problem.
I don't know if it is better or worse.
g
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50135449-L.jpg
Sally
Dec-30-2005, 03:45 PM
[quote=ginger_55]I managed to do this this afternoon, before I realized that I really had a problem.
I don't know if it is better or worse.
I like this one best of all three. Actually I liked the first better than the second, but then my personal picks are often at odds with others'. I preferred it because the old bridge was hardly noticeable in the background. I thought it competed in the second, and I didn't like the blazing blue sky. But this pictures tells me something about change, decay, and modern solutions.
Possibly my views are colored. They are builing a bridge like this up here in Maine, next to an old beauty that predated the Golden Gate Bridge and was in some ways a model for it. It was SO pretty, high over the Penobscot River up near Bucksport. But -- the state ignored it for too long, then threw money at it trying to save it, finally had to give up and build this unlovely structure, right next to the old beauty, which they hope to also keep open (I can't believe they are serious; probably a sop to the sentimental to say they'll keep it)... It's way too high in the air to look handsome. But anyway, I like your third (and latest) photo because it also says something about the mood of change... Hm, clearly I can't judge it on its own merits...
Sally
ginger_55
Dec-31-2005, 11:33 AM
This one is strange, and needless to say it is the NEW bridge. I guess you could call some of these, Ring in the New and ring out the old........bridges."
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50334228-L.jpg
Above, I turned around and grabbed this shot as I was leaving....
Below, this is the first one I took this morning, or one of the first ones, no sky color, or not much! The sun rises the other way. It is a strange day here, it looks grey out my window on this side of the house, but it looks like sunshine on the other side of the place. I would guess that it is still grey all over.
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50337284-L.jpg
The last one is a bit later, just before I left, before I took the first one above.
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50334259-L.jpg
This is the same one with a frame.
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50334243-L.jpg
Anything?????
I am getting a tad tired of this bridge........and the weather is not supposed to get better either.
ginger
ginger_55
Dec-31-2005, 11:35 AM
I like the first one best, and I didn't even "take" it, I "snapped" it.
g
Flyinggina
Dec-31-2005, 03:24 PM
You have a wonderful series of bridge pictures. Particularly interesting because in a short time they will reflect history because the old bridge will be gone. I can see a selection of them framed and exhibited in the public library or perhaps a Starbucks or other coffee or tea shop in Charleston. Have you thought of doing something like that? Good publicity. Possibility of making sales. Nice contribution to the community.
Anyhow, I wish you a healthy, productive and fun new year with few frustrations and many pleasures.
Virginia
ginger_55
Dec-31-2005, 06:53 PM
Thanks, Gina! I just read of another place to take these things, a cemetery, but I think the old bridge is more prominent there. Anyway, we are expecting nothing good as far as weather is concerned.
There are some good photos and photo books out already of bridge photos. I was thinking of looking at one to get ideas, but I don't have access to planes, boats, etc.
I do have some photos that are as good as most of the photos that are out, but then there are those exceptional ones that someone else does where you just go........WOW (and how?).
ginger
ginger_55
Jan-01-2006, 05:43 AM
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livinginoz
Jan-01-2006, 07:15 AM
ginger, i personally like this last one. the trees give it a nice frame and add depth.
and looking at all that water, i can't help but wonder where in the world you were standing!!!!
ginger_55
Jan-01-2006, 08:37 AM
Thanks, Laurie.
I was standing very carefully, very carefully!
I left while Bill was in bed, so I was alone. That is a path down an incline and into some trees at the edge of the marsh. It looks like something the indians would have put in. I think it is cool, but it was scary as I didn't know if I could make it back up.
Other than that, being hit in the face by branches and stuff, well, it is the best place I know of to get a bridge shot, without an airplane or boat, and I have heard that those aren't easy either.
ginger
ScottMcLeod
Jan-01-2006, 12:16 PM
I like the first one best, and I didn't even "take" it, I "snapped" it.
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As torn as I am, I agree with you. The first one really hits me hard. I love it.
Also, I salute your photographic lengths that you went to.
ginger_55
Jan-01-2006, 02:02 PM
I hardly ever share these, but someone found it............
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50361251-L.jpg
aero-nut
Jan-01-2006, 09:26 PM
I hardly ever share these, but someone found it............
Ginger, I do like it. The only suggestion I could make is maybe to put it through a noise-reduction tool. The noise is a little distracting from the clarity of the different lines and angles in the photo.
ginger_55
Jan-02-2006, 04:06 AM
Yeah, I thought about that. It was still not bright daylight, had the 400 on, was down on a dock thing shooting birds, so I had the ISO high.
That is why I didn't post the exif, I didn't want someone to notice that it was on, uh, 800 ISO.
At the time I worked it up, of course, it was just "for me". I think I ran it through the denoise thing in PS CS2, for just the blue.
Yesterday I was debating whether to do more, so thanks for answering that question.
Smile, ginger
OK, I do dumb things, ISOs for one thing do not necessarily work for another, f stops the same, etc. Dumb bad me! OK, that should be good for a few days of flaggellation.
The really helpful part is for someone like you to tell me that the noise is obvious, then I can do something about it.
Reshooting on a tripod, well, it isn't happening today. Not unless something changes drastically in the dark damp dank grey wet weather. Maybe I could do cemeteries, but even a momentary blue sky does not look promising. Then Bill takes his tripod and goes back to work tomorrow.
Am not sure, but it really might be a good day to shoot a cemetery that I just want to see, then going out to lunch. Gotta spend that Christmas treat money Bill got, before it is all gone. Fried Shrimp and Hush Puppies: when possible, I do not eat healthy. I have lots of guilt over that, too.
That and my exif, my secret vices.
ginger (I think the color of that sky in the photo, the particular blue is a one time thing combined with the clouds that were in the area. In other words, retaken it would be a different photo....one of those things I have learned the hard way.)
ginger_55
Jan-02-2006, 05:02 AM
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Am looking for self flaggellation thingy.
Date was 1/04/2006
gotta get that down in my mind........
:bash or I could just :hide
ginger :1drink (that is medicine, just medicine. :uhoh )
aero-nut
Jan-02-2006, 09:33 AM
Am looking for self flaggellation thingy.
Date was 1/04/2006
gotta get that down in my mind........
:bash or I could just :hide
ginger :1drink (that is medicine, just medicine. :uhoh )
Ginger, the noise wasn't super bad, but noticeable. This one is much better. You can barely tell there was any noise at all, and not too many artifacts from the anti-noise filter. Nice job. I think I really brings out the lines and angles, and how they contrast with the blue sky. :clap
ginger_55
Jan-03-2006, 07:33 AM
Thanks, Arero!
ginger
snapapple
Jan-03-2006, 08:30 AM
Hi Ginger,
I love your bridge! The first one, I think. The golden grass is cool. I finally got my computer working right so I can see these pics.
You did a great job with the noise on that sky. Was that just with the noise thing in Photoshop CS2? Looks terrific. I like the abstract quality of the lines of that bridge. :thumb
snapapple
Jan-03-2006, 08:35 AM
I managed to do this this afternoon, before I realized that I really had a problem.
I don't know if it is better or worse.
g
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/50135449-L.jpg
I just looked back and saw this one. I like it. The closer view really shows a comparison of old and new. I can tell that even without a caption. The picture tells the story.
snapapple
Jan-03-2006, 08:41 AM
Date was 1/04/2006
ginger :1drink (that is medicine, just medicine. :uhoh )
How did your camera get that date? Today is only the 3rd. Did you take a step into the future? :rofl
ginger_55
Jan-04-2006, 07:08 PM
How did your camera get that date? Today is only the 3rd. Did you take a step into the future? :rofl
Oh, hi, Snappy! I guess I looked at my calendar wrong. No matter I am OK. Whatever is on the exif will do, though my exif thing is a day off.
The only problem is that different people like different shots, I am totally discouraged and have kind of quit.
I might put up the top part on Sunday. I think to have "new", you need to imply old. But ........................... well, there are other people's stuff that I like better anyway.
To tell the truth, well, I just am totally out of it. And I thought this would be a cinch as I have the biggest newest bridge in the United States. But I like the little baby flower and the big flower, palm tree/whatever it is better, actually.
I could go somewhere else, only one place I know of and try for a different shot, but I think it would be worse as I think there the old bridge is in front of the new bridge. It is a cemetery in a bad part of town, I have never been there, but it is supposed to be on the river.
Our weather is supposed to deteriorate, so that would be a problem.
But with everyone liking different ones, and me liking someone else's, :rofl , well, I am very confused.
Thanks for stopping and commenting. I will have to fix my exif date in my camera in case it is ever important.
Smile, ginger
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