This confirms what I have been saying

[nickphoto123]

Fujifilm FinePix S9500 - Test conclusion
Kai Thon, DIWA's test manager comments: "The FinePix S9500 is a compact package that will solve most photographic challenges from virtually any photographer, professional and amateur alike. It is also very budget-friendly, considering the price of any 28-300 mm f/2.8-4.9 zoom lens with super macro capability as close as 1 cm, not to forget the well reputed Super CCD HR image sensor with 9 Mp resolution and many professional-like features. DIWA experts found the FinePix S9500 to be a perfect assembly of imaging essentials built into a user-friendly body at a very competitive price."

Regards, Nicholas

[ScottMcLeod]

Fujifilm FinePix S9500 - Test conclusion
Kai Thon, DIWA's test manager comments: "The FinePix S9500 is a compact package that will solve most photographic challenges from virtually any photographer, professional and amateur alike. It is also very budget-friendly, considering the price of any 28-300 mm f/2.8-4.9 zoom lens with super macro capability as close as 1 cm, not to forget the well reputed Super CCD HR image sensor with 9 Mp resolution and many professional-like features. DIWA experts found the FinePix S9500 to be a perfect assembly of imaging essentials built into a user-friendly body at a very competitive price."

Regards, Nicholas
*grin* you sound like you keep having to justify it to yourself, not us. :wink

The 9500 seems to be the new 828. If I needed a walkaround smaller than my 10D, I'd probably buy one. I was impressed when I tried the white box.

I think the rest of us are happy with the kits that we have.

[Mitchell]

Nicholas,

Why your obsession with the S9000? You have 15 posts with the name of this camera in the title. While I think it is great that you love your camera, this is not really the type of site that gets overly hung up on what gear you have. Your posts like "Flowers with my S9000" could simply be titled "Flowers".

We get it. You love your S9000. You don't need to justify your choice to the rest of us. Just take the pictures and share them.

[Bird Man Photographer]

:soapbox :lol4 :lol4 :lol4 :lol4 :lol4


http://www.pbase.com/blindmustangpilot/image/52580216.jpg

[wholenewlight]

Why your obsession with the S9000?
Nicholas is a man who loves his camera - really loves his camera! Good for him. He's about convinced me.

For sale: Nikon D70s, lots of Nikon stuff, Lenses etc . . .

Wait, never mind. Whew, I almost did something I might later regret . . .:huh

Keep shooting Nick!! :thumb

[gsgary]

Let see some sports photography from it, i have the s7000 aswell as a 10D and the s7000 is crap at sport great for landscapes

[pathfinder]

Image sensor size and pixel well size matters. A lot.:thumb

That is why the APS and larger sensor size cameras will continue to be favored by many photographers.

AF capture speed and shutter lag are critical factors to sports shooters and street shooters also. I'd love to have a Leica like APS sensor powered range finder digital camera, but it is not here yet I think :): But I think we won't have to wait much longer.

[nickphoto123]

Why is it those who never post images make personal attacks?

I post my s9000 images to share with others considering the camera.

As far as actual "usability" of a camera, my posts and review are far more valuable to those new to photography and that new photographers should not be led astray by those posters who post only their ego rather than their photography.
I believe I have been quite helpful to many readers measured by their responses to me.

This Ego group was never on Digital Grin until recently.

I will have no more of this.

Goodbye. Nicholas

[Andy]

I will have no more of this.

Goodbye. Nicholas

Hey Nick - don't pack up yer bags yet. We welcome all types of cameras and shooters here - but ya gotta realize that folks are free to post their feelings - and we, as posters, need to be tough enough to take it!

Hope you'll stay and contribute.

[wholenewlight]

I will have no more of this.
Goodbye. Nicholas
Stick around, Nicholas
Everybody's welcome in the pool.
My camera. . . your camera . . .pinhole camera. Ford, chevy, toyota. Everybody has their favorite. You've made strong claims of support of your Fuji - many valid ones. But a challenge or two never hurts. I have no doubt that you picked the right camera for your needs and others have benefited from your opinions, I'm sure.

Keep posting and keep shooting!

By the way, compared to others, this is a pretty ego-free and friendly forum to hang around in:

Other photo forums - :argue :beatwax :smack :duel :hang :whip

Dgrin - :beer :stud :sweet :crazy :hotfood :jose :smooch :lust :slurp :freaky

[Mitchell]

Why is it those who never post images make personal attacks?


This Ego group was never on Digital Grin until recently.

I will have no more of this.

Goodbye. Nicholas
Ugh!

Niholas, don't take these discussions so personally. This is a pretty lighthearted and friendly site. Your photography is certainly welcome and appreciated here. Just go a little lighter on the preaching about the gear. It's not just about the gear.

[ScottMcLeod]

Stick around, Nicholas
Everybody's welcome in the pool.
My camera. . . your camera . . .pinhole camera. Ford, chevy, toyota. Everybody has their favorite. You've made strong claims of support of your Fuji - many valid ones. But a challenge or two never hurts. I have no doubt that you picked the right camera for your needs and others have benefited from your opinions, I'm sure.

Keep posting and keep shooting!

By the way, compared to others, this is a pretty ego-free and friendly forum to hang around in:

Other photo forums - :argue :beatwax :smack :duel :hang :whip

Dgrin - :beer :stud :sweet :crazy :hotfood :jose :smooch :lust :slurp :freaky
So true!

Stay around Nick, we were just razzin ya.

That, and I don't know where the comment about people who don't post photos comes from. True I haven't posted many of my pics lately, but I absolutely LOVE posting my photos.

[Seymore]

Why is it those who never post images make personal attacks?

I post my s9000 images to share with others considering the camera.
Well, from my observations... you did the same things when you got the 828. It's just transparent (at least to me) some peoples insecurities. If you really need to justify the camera, it's not really to us. As was stated, most (if not all) of us are quite happy with our selections.

[gsgary]

Fuji missed shutter lag



http://gsgary.smugmug.com/photos/27822618-M.jpg

Canon 10D
http://gsgary.smugmug.com/photos/41221035-M.jpg

[rutt]

Image sensor size and pixel well size matters. A lot.:thumb

That is why the APS and larger sensor size cameras will continue to be favored by many photographers.

AF capture speed and shutter lag are critical factors to sports shooters and street shooters also. I'd love to have a Leica like APS sensor powered range finder digital camera, but it is not here yet I think :): But I think we won't have to wait much longer.

Isn't this it?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0403/04031101epsonrd1.asp
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=epson+%22r-d1%22&btnG=Search+Froogle&lmode=unknown

But would you rather have a 5D for the price?

[pathfinder]

Isn't this it?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0403/04031101epsonrd1.asp
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=epson+%22r-d1%22&btnG=Search+Froogle&lmode=unknown

But would you rather have a 5D for the price?


I already own Canon lenses, what would you do??

I read the review of the RD-1 and was intrigued by it. The price did put me off though. Not sure why really, the 5D's price did not put me off, but then a full frame SLR is a lot more hardware to construct than an APS sensor range finder.

The RD-1 review is here http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/epson-rd1.shtml

I stand by my statement that I don't think it is really here yet, but the Epson RD-2 might just be it. Just think if it had useable ISO 3200 or 6400. Hmmm... Just the thing for more vampire shooting :):

[rutt]

I stand by my statement that I don't think it is really here yet, but the Epson RD-2 might just be it. Just think if it had useable ISO 3200 or 6400. Hmmm... Just the thing for more vampire shooting :):

Leica glass? I think it'd need full frame and 12+MP before it'd give the 5D a run for the money, though. I'm not sure Epson is the company to do that. Leica/Panasonic could if they wanted to (well if Panasonic wanted to.)

[blackwaterstudio]

I agree with the others, a P&S isn't really going to give a dSLR a run for its money. It may give other P&S's its fair share, but your trying to compare apples to oranges when you compare the two.

[nickphoto123]

Fuji missed shutter lag



http://gsgary.smugmug.com/photos/27822618-M.jpg

Canon 10D
http://gsgary.smugmug.com/photos/41221035-M.jpg

One should not compare a photo's focus shot by panning a subject with a photo in which the camera is steady and only the subject is moving.
For the latter there are many variables which could lead to poor focus, including a camera's shutterlag ( but not that of the S9000 in knowledgeable hands ).

Regards, Nicholas

[Seymore]

One should not compare a photo's focus shot by panning a subject with a photo in which the camera is steady and only the subject is moving.
For the latter there are many variables which could lead to poor focus, including a camera's shutterlag ( but not that of the S9000 in knowledgeable hands ).

Regards, Nicholas
Quite realistic. The shutter lag is what was being displayed... and it's quite a bit different between the 2 different types of cameras. gsgary had a very good example.

[nickphoto123]

Quite realistic. The shutter lag is what was being displayed... and it's quite a bit different between the 2 different types of cameras. gsgary had a very good example.
Perhaps you are unaware of the following:

When panning a subject your autufocus points are on the subject for a longer period than when your camera is still and your subject is moving.

You can not use these different examples as a test of a camer'as shutterlag. If he was panning with the S9000 the image would probably be in focus. And if the Canon was held still, the question would be would its shutter lag capture the subject.

Regards, Nicholas

[ScottMcLeod]

Perhaps you are unaware of the following:

When panning a subject your autufocus points are on the subject for a longer period than when your camera is still and your subject is moving.

You can not use these different examples as a test of a camer'as shutterlag. If he was panning with the S9000 the image would probably be in focus. And if the Canon was held still, the question would be would its shutter lag capture the subject.

Regards, Nicholas Actually, technically, the first photo taken by the fuji would be *more* likely to be in focus, as the camera's pan would reverse at the apex of the corner, providing a moment where the camera and bikes are in zero-motion.

And no, if the canon was held still, the "shutter-lag" as you put it, wouldn't capture the subject, but if the shutter-SPEED was up high enough, it would.

I think we're all arguing about incorrect terms here.

[nickphoto123]

Actually, technically, the first photo taken by the fuji would be *more* likely to be in focus, as the camera's pan would reverse at the apex of the corner, providing a moment where the camera and bikes are in zero-motion.

And no, if the canon was held still, the "shutter-lag" as you put it, wouldn't capture the subject, but if the shutter-SPEED was up high enough, it would.

I think we're all arguing about incorrect terms here.
Apples & Oranges.

[gus]

I have no idea what the argument is about...think i will start again.

[Bird Man Photographer]

I have no idea what the argument is about...think i will start again.
Mine's bigger than your's. :rofl

[ScottMcLeod]

Apples & Oranges.
What the hell kind of reply is that?

[blackwaterstudio]

What the hell kind of reply is that?
Its a last ditch efford to try to settle in his mind that his S9000 is better then our dSLR

[ScottMcLeod]

Its a last ditch efford to try to settle in his mind that his S9000 is better then our dSLR
Yeah, not to mention rude.

This thread's dead. Can a mod delete it please?

[Harryb]

Yeah, not to mention rude.

This thread's dead. Can a mod delete it please?
I gotta tell you that I have quickly reviewed the posts in this thread and what I see is Nick posting a positive comment about his camera and then getting "jumped on".

I disagreed with Nick earlier about the S9500 being a "DSLR killer" but I didn't see him proclaiming its superiority over any other camera in this thread. He seems like a person happy with his camera. Perhap some stuff from earlier threads were carried over to this one. If that's the case it wasn't Nick who was doing it.

Instead of having a mod delete it (I am tempted to delete all the responses to the initial post) why don't we discuss the perceived strengths and weaknesses of the camera (every camera has them you know) in way that's respectful to each other's feelings and in a way that's constructive.

[ScottMcLeod]

I gotta tell you that I have quickly reviewed the posts in this thread and what I see is Nick posting a positive comment about his camera and then getting "jumped on".

I disagreed with Nick earlier about the S9500 being a "DSLR killer" but I didn't see him proclaiming its superiority over any other camera in this thread. He seems like a person happy with his camera. Perhap some stuff from earlier threads were carried over to this one. If that's the case it wasn't Nick who was doing it.

Instead of having a mod delete it (I am tempted to delete all the responses to the initial post) why don't we discuss the perceived strengths and weaknesses of the camera (every camera has them you know) in way that's respectful to each other's feelings and in a way that's constructive. Whatever works. From previous forum-modding, it used to be easier to just nuke the thread and let the poster re-post it, with the knowledge that people would discuss rationally, rather than lash out.

I'll start with my 10D though:

Strengths:
9-frame RAW buffer.
Magnesium body
Silent shutter

Weaknesses:
1.6x crop
Noise (though better than comparable nikon)
slow write speed (so the 9 frames take forever to empty)

Overall, I'd rather have a 5D. It'll be my next purchase, except some (more) good glass.

I'd kill for a good deal on a 16-35 f/2.8

... oh, and I wish canon would bring back the silent shutter that the 10D and the Elan 7NE had.

[wholenewlight]

this thread has become . . .

:deadhorse

of course, I guess I'm guilty of still reading it.

[ScottMcLeod]

this thread has become . . .

:deadhorse

of course, I guess I'm guilty of still reading it.
:deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

[nickphoto123]

I also wonder why I had no responses to my recent post "Revised Zoom Test" on my S9000.
The pics were shot from 28 mm to 600 mm (digital zoom ).

I hope this Zoom Test post did not offend any DSLR user.
It was not intended to.

Thank you again HarryB,

Regards, Nicholas

[ScottMcLeod]

I also wonder why I had no responses to my recent post "Revised Zoom Test" on my S9000.
The pics were shot from 28 mm to 600 mm (digital zoom ).

I hope this Zoom Test post did not offend any DSLR user.
It was not intended to.

Thank you again HarryB,

Regards, Nicholas
I read the post and saw the photos, but to me, it seemed a lot like my experiences with the Tamron 18-200 that we sell at work.

Cool test though.

[gus]

I also wonder why I had no responses to my recent post "Revised Zoom Test" on my S9000.
The pics were shot from 28 mm to 600 mm (digital zoom ).

I hope this Zoom Test post did not offend any DSLR user.
It was not intended to.

Thank you again HarryB,

Regards, NicholasNicholas what would indicate that you may have offended the DSLR users ?

You post a 600mm shot that can beat a DSLR with a 600mm & i will be the 1st asking you how you did it & where can i buy the equip you are using. Sometimes posts just get washed to the kerb...everyone gets it. Sometimes its because those posters do not give any feedback to others & want the light on them selves all the time so people may ignor them (in no way am i saying this is the case but just pointing out reasons) It could be that it was posted at a particular time that people whom may have been interested were away at work or for the week-end & thus it is pushed back :dunno Please dont get hung up on the why who's & whats of people in forums....

[Harryb]

I also wonder why I had no responses to my recent post "Revised Zoom Test" on my S9000.
The pics were shot from 28 mm to 600 mm (digital zoom ).

I hope this Zoom Test post did not offend any DSLR user.
It was not intended to.

Thank you again HarryB,

Regards, Nicholas
Hey Nick,

In the end its about the pictures and not the gear. The "best" camera is the one that fits the individual. Last year I shoot at the St. Augustine Rookery with 4 other dgrinners. Three of us shot with DSLRs, one shot with a Panasonic Lumix, and one with the Sony 828. When we posted our pics you couldn't tell which camera took which shot.

[gus]

Hey Nick,

In the end its about the pictures and not the gear. The "best" camera is the one that fits the individual. Last year I shoot at the St. Augustine Rookery with 4 other dgrinners. Three of us shot with DSLRs, one shot with a Panasonic Lumix, and one with the Sony 828. When we posted our pics you couldn't tell which camera took which shot.

At least canon users dont carry blue dye in the gear bag to punch the water up a bit. :wxwax

[Harryb]

At least canon users dont carry blue dye in the gear bag to punch the water up a bit. :wxwax
Its sad to see a Mod stirring the waters in such a manner. :cry Fortunately having the good taste to use Nikon cameras also means that I have too much class to be agitated by such a blatant attempt to cause dissension.



:bad :splat :flip :fu :boid :crazy

[gus]

Its sad to see a Mod stirring the waters in such a manner. :cry Fortunately having the good taste to use Nikon cameras also means that I have too much class to be agitated by such a blatant attempt to cause dissension.



:bad :splat :flip :fu :boid :crazy
Got a good nikon lens site in your favorites harry ? Say one with some short primes & a canon adaptor ?

[Bird Man Photographer]

Its sad to see a Mod stirring the waters in such a manner. :cry Fortunately having the good taste to use Nikon cameras also means that I have too much class to be agitated by such a blatant attempt to cause dissension.



:bad :splat :flip :fu :boid :crazy :lol4 :lol4 :lol4 :lol4 :haha

"Kettle calling black" I'm glad you've never taken shots at a certain Canon user Mr. Moderator.

[Harryb]

http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/roflol.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/roflol.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/roflol.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/roflol.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/hahaha.gif

"Kettle calling black" I'm glad you've never taken shots at a certain Canon user Mr. Moderator.Me!!!!! http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/ne_nau.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/headscratch.gif Never!!!! I always try to be kind to those less fortunate than myself. http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/lol3.gif

[Bird Man Photographer]

Me!!!!! http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/ne_nau.gif http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/headscratch.gif Never!!!! I always try to be kind to those less fortunate than myself. http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/lol3.gif:rolleyes :rofl

I was kind of surprised that a shot from a Canon had noise. I thought that wasn't supposed to happen unless you shot at ISO4800 or higher. :rofl
ye gads Mike that's the bluest little blue heron I have ever seen. Did you buy a Nikon? :D

http://thetallcorn.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/disney_pinocchio_08.jpg

"prosecution rests." :D

[Harryb]

Originally Posted by Harryb
I was kind of surprised that a shot from a Canon had noise. I thought that wasn't supposed to happen unless you shot at ISO4800 or higher. http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/yelrotflmao.gif

Here I was merely paying homage to the low noise levels of Canon cameras.

Originally Posted by Harryb
ye gads Mike that's the bluest little blue heron I have ever seen. Did you buy a Nikon? http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/icon10.gif


What higher honor could I pay a pic than to think it was taken by a Nikon camera?
Seesh!!!! You try to be a nice guy and some folks just try to twist it around. :dunno :cry :rolleyes

[JimM]

I finally started to read this thread... this is an absolute riot! :rofl

I have a very interesting perspective on this....

My first SLR was a Canon FT (all manual, not even Aperature priority or a winder). I purchased a couple of lenses and really got good with it.

Then I saw what winders could do and autoexposure with matrix style metering. I was going to purchase a Canon, but they switched lens mounts on me. What good would all my Canon lenses do me? This ticked me off, as Nikon never switched lens mounts.....

So I purchased an Nikon 8008s... and a couple of manual focus lens that worked on it!!! I really liked this camera, and achieved great results, but life got the better of me... I got sick of film and life got busy. I swore I would never convert to digital, but I started getting jealous of the ease and instant gratification....

So my (now) wife bought me a Canon S200. For those of you who don't know, this is a 2mp point and shoot with a 2x optical zoom. It fits in a shirt pocket and you can manually set the shutter speed (and a bunch of other settings). I fell in love all over again and the Nikon gathered dust for a couple of years. (though it is true, I was not taking that many *photographs*, just snapshots. But I still get some great shots and even got good at the shutter lag....

This brings me to (relatively) present. I knew I really wanted to sink my teeth in photography and I missed my SLR, so it was now time. Remember I had the Nikon lenses (though most manual focus). A good friend of mine that shot my wedding (a CPPA), has been shooting Canon digital for years (prior to that he was Minolta & Hasselblad film, Minolta for 35mm and Hasselblad for medium format). I borrowed a 10d and a couple of IS zooms from him and I was hooked. The camera just felt right. I picked up my 20D this summer and have been building my lens collection. I traded in all my Nikon equip. Once in a while, I am jealous of the Nikon shooter... they can still buy old (still GREAT) Nikon glass (albeit manual focus) for pennies on the dollar. I am talking about Nikor 300mm f2.8 for a couple of hundred dollars!!! Imagine the lenses we Canon owners could have??? I don't mind manual focus to this day. In fact, sometimes I still have to switch to it, in low light or to help me compose.

As for the Sony that started this whole thread.... no comment (as I have no experience).

[ScottMcLeod]

As for the Sony that started this whole thread.... no comment (as I have no experience).
... it was a fuji, but what's the difference? :rofl

Doesn't replace my 10D and a 18-200 any day.

[Bird Man Photographer]

Here I was merely paying homage to the low noise levels of Canon cameras.


What higher honor could I pay a pic than to think it was taken by a Nikon camera?
Seesh!!!! You try to be a nice guy and some folks just try to twist it around. :dunno :cry :rolleyes
Aww come on Harry. I was just bustin' ya chops. I just wanted an excuse to post the pick of the wooden guy. :rofl It's all in good fun and you know it Mr. Nikonian blue bird. :uhoh :thumb

[illuminati919]

Im just glad I have any kind of camera, pinhole or disposable, film or digital, nikon or canon. :D . Its not what kind you have, it's how you use it, hehe.

[Matthew Saville]

Im just glad I have any kind of camera, pinhole or disposable, film or digital, nikon or canon. :D . Its not what kind you have, it's how you use it, hehe.Hence my signature:
(nevermind. I could have sworn I changed it to "It's not the camera, it's the photograph. It's not what you look at, it's what you see...")

[nickphoto123]

Hello All,

You DSLR guys are all over the place, off topic, which I am enjoying, with friendly kibitzing, but not on topic.

The following words were written to descibe the merits ( in DWIA's opinion) of the Fuji S9000 ( a/k/a/ Fuji S9500):

Fujifilm FinePix S9500 - Test conclusion
Kai Thon, DIWA's test manager comments: "The FinePix S9500 is a compact package that will solve most photographic challenges from virtually any photographer, professional and amateur alike. It is also very budget-friendly, considering the price of any 28-300 mm f/2.8-4.9 zoom lens with super macro capability as close as 1 cm, not to forget the well reputed Super CCD HR image sensor with 9 Mp resolution and many professional-like features. DIWA experts found the FinePix S9500 to be a perfect assembly of imaging essentials built into a user-friendly body at a very competitive price."

Have you ever read such glowing and detailed remarks about any prosumer digital camera?

Regards, Nicholas

[gus]

Have you ever read such glowing and detailed remarks about any prosumer digital camera?

Regards, Nicholas
yep...every time a new model hits the streets. Same as the DSLR's...same as film used to be...same as video cams..same as anything. etc etc

[Mike Lane]

Hello All,

You DSLR guys are all over the place, off topic, which I am enjoying, with friendly kibitzing, but not on topic.

The following words were written to descibe the merits ( in DWIA's opinion) of the Fuji S9000 ( a/k/a/ Fuji S9500):

Fujifilm FinePix S9500 - Test conclusion
Kai Thon, DIWA's test manager comments: "The FinePix S9500 is a compact package that will solve most photographic challenges from virtually any photographer, professional and amateur alike. It is also very budget-friendly, considering the price of any 28-300 mm f/2.8-4.9 zoom lens with super macro capability as close as 1 cm, not to forget the well reputed Super CCD HR image sensor with 9 Mp resolution and many professional-like features. DIWA experts found the FinePix S9500 to be a perfect assembly of imaging essentials built into a user-friendly body at a very competitive price."

Have you ever read such glowing and detailed remarks about any prosumer digital camera?

Regards, Nicholas:scratch

Do you work for fuji or something? We give, the S9000/S9500 is an awesome camrea. I for one really hope you enjoy it! Feel free to post any pictures you take with it here on dgrin.

Sticking with my Canon 20D/17-85/50-500 Bigma

For now :wink

[nickphoto123]

:scratch

Do you work for fuji or something? We give, the S9000/S9500 is an awesome camrea. I for one really hope you enjoy it! Feel free to post any pictures you take with it here on dgrin.

Sticking with my Canon 20D/17-85/50-500 Bigma

For now :wink
You missed it.

You should ask if DWIA works for Fuji.

Regards, Nicholas

[Mike Lane]

You missed it.

You should ask if DWIA works for Fuji.

Regards, NicholasSure but DWIA isn't posting on here. So why push the S9500 so much out of curiosity? DPreview gave it a fairly good review. They say over and over again how it is really tops in its class. Very nearly dSLR quality but not quite. I'd personally have a bit of trouble accepting the limitations of the lens (particularly on the wide end). 28mm isn't all that wide. Also you never have any hope of getting better than f/4.9 at 300mm. That's a show stopper for me. Also the noise at ISO 1600 is horrible (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms9000/page7.asp) (here too (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms9000/page12.asp)). Another annoyance is that the hot shoe doesn't allow communication between the flash and the camera.

The thing is once my talents make it so I reach the limits of the camera's configuration, I wouldn't be able to change it like I can on a dSLR. I'd be stuck with the package I had. For my purposes dSLRs are so much more versatile and faster and easier on the batteries that I wouldn't give them up.

But there are without a doubt camera users out there for which the S9500 would fit the bill perfectly. I certainly would have liked it when I first started out. Just not anymore.

[nickphoto123]

[QUOTE=Mike Lane]Sure but DWIA isn't posting on here. So why push the S9500 so much out of curiosity?

Hello Mike,

I am not pushing anything.

I am simply posting links to my S9000 images.

I don't think you can find one word of mine knocking someone else's camera selection.

I spent $2,200 for a D30, $2,200 for a D60, both of which I still own, 2 55oEX EX flashes, ( which I use manually with my S9000 ) lenes, filters, tubes, etc., etc..
And I can take better pics from more vantage points & in lower light with my $599 Fuji S9000 than I can with my Canons or my Sony F-828.

Please check out my Zoom Test post, Part 3 & 4.

Thanks for the exchange of ideas,

Regards, Nicholas

[wholenewlight]

Have you ever read such glowing and detailed remarks about any prosumer digital camera?

Nicholas,

As you know, I've been supporting you on your enthusiasm about your camera BUT the truth is, YES - I have read glowing reports about most of the newest cameras. Many of the participants of this board also frequent dpreview.com and we appreciate Phil's detailed tests of digital cameras. Most of the new prosumer cameras are getting his "Highly Recommended" status. I might mention that the s9000/9500 received a lesser "Recommended" conclusion. Here's the link (http://http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms9000/).

You like your Fuji, so do some others, others are less impressed - that's the way it is . . .

Let's move on. The off-topic parts of this threads were the more entertaining parts of the thread.

Comparing features and magazine & website reviews is really nothing more than a p*ssing contest. No one wins. We all know your opinion and it's a valid one but in reality no one really cares what you shoot with. I know Andy shoots with a Canon 5D (this week anyway, :): ). Lots of Canon fans on this board. Guess what - I'm still shooting Nikon. I like what I have regardless what you or anyone else chooses for their photo hardware.

Post your work. Ask for critique. Get a "tough skin" and accept criticism (and praise) for your shots. Keep shooting and keep posting. Enter a contest or two - on this board and others. Your camera is simply a tool and is only as good as your eye is.

[Mike Lane]

[QUOTE=Mike Lane]Sure but DWIA isn't posting on here. So why push the S9500 so much out of curiosity?

Hello Mike,

I am not pushing anything.

I am simply posting links to my S9000 images.

I don't think you can find one word of mine knocking someone else's camera selection.

I spent $2,200 for a D30, $2,200 for a D60, both of which I still own, 2 55oEX EX flashes, ( which I use manually with my S9000 ) lenes, filters, tubes, etc., etc..
And I can take better pics from more vantage points & in lower light with my $599 Fuji S9000 than I can with my Canons or my Sony F-828.

Please check out my Zoom Test post, Part 3 & 4.

Thanks for the exchange of ideas,

Regards, NicholasI checked out your galleries. I found the noise levels here (http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/1014091/2/46940508/Original) to be way too high (and here (http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/1014091/2/46940501/Original) even more so because of the digital zoom). One of the things that DPreview mentioned is that the CCD has a fairly small dynamic range and that one has to expose very carefully not to clip the whites. An example of this is here (http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/1014091/1/46940499/Original). This one (http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/999241/1/46356082/Original) is fairly nice although I suspect that it is because there is more light to work with so you can be on a lower ISO setting as compared with your other gallery (but you don't have the EXIF so I can't know for sure). That shot still has some clipping that I wouldn't personally expect to have, and the dark areas are still quite noisy. It's kind of an unpleasant noise too - just kind of scattered black dots almost. I haven't seen anything quite like it before.

[wholenewlight]

Post your work. . . . Your camera is simply a tool and is only as good as your eye is.Now here's what I'm talking about . . .

http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/893565/1/40518035/Large

I want to hear less about your camera and see more of your shots like this one. A pretty interesting shot.

And I like the "magic light" on this shot:

http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/854244/1/38430509/Large

Do you live near the Flushing Meadows park. It looks like you like to shoot there. Good ideas.

Here's another one that caught my eye from your site:

http://nickphoto123.smugmug.com/gallery/918224/1/41893121/Large

The indoor church shots are a little noisy, though. Not sure what your ISO was.
.

[nickphoto123]

[QUOTE=wholenewlight]Now here's what I'm talking about . . .
.....
I want to hear less about your camera and see more of your shots ........"


Thanks for your observations, BUT,

Isn't this the Camera Forum?

I thought I was in the right place, since my posts were intended to show the capabilities of the S9000, and not my photographic abilities.

Regards, Nicholas

[Khaos]

[QUOTE=wholenewlight]Now here's what I'm talking about . . .
.....
I want to hear less about your camera and see more of your shots ........"


Thanks for your observations, BUT,

Isn't this the Camera Forum?

I thought I was in the right place, since my posts were intended to show the capabilities of the S9000, and not my photographic abilities.

Regards, Nicholas
Yes. But I think more people visit this forum to discuss cameras and not read about someone bragging about their camera. There's a fine line between showing excitemnet and going overboard with "Mine's the best."

The other thing, one which I am now fueling, is that you seem to love attention. We're giving it to you in this thread now. The whole, I'm taking my camera and leaving dgrin for good threat was pitiful.

[Andy]

Isn't this the Camera Forum?

I thought I was in the right place, since my posts were intended to show the capabilities of the S9000, and not my photographic abilities.

Regards, Nicholas


Dgrin is a community. And yes, this particular forum is for Cameras. Many folks love to discuss the particular capabilities of one camera and another. And there are people who feel strongly about camera types, and brands. One thing I'll say is, if you are going to make a post "hey look at how great my camera is at 12x" or some such (just an example)... then you have to be prepared for all comers - people who say "wow!" and people who say "mine's better" and people who say "ewwww - that's gross!" This is a free, public forum and we welcome all the types!

It's all good.

It's also a *very* lightly moderated forum. But in this case, I think this thread's gone on enough. I'll close it.


Anyone is free to start a fresh thread on any subject!

All the best,