smugmug and search results = sales

[Andy]

thank you chris, and don, and everyone at smugmug, for doing the "google dance" so well. i'm getting a lot of folks coming into my site by googling for specific stuff, and they're finding it at my smugmug site!

for those of you who are interested in selling your work... i just wanted to take a moment guys, to stress the importance of good captioning of your online images - that is, if you intend to sell them.

i have seen a very substantial increase in sales volume lately, due to the fact that folks are finding individual images via google search. this one just got picked up by a website designer, for a client that they are working with in the financial space:

(sony f828 image)
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/3845284-S.jpg

she found it by googling "tappan zee bridge" for images

so, my advice: caption everything, with an eye towards potential searches :D

enjoy (getting paid for your) photography,

[mercphoto]

thank you chris, and don, and everyone at smugmug, for doing the "google dance" so well. ...
so, my advice: caption everything, with an eye towards potential searches

This is not the same as the "keywords" line in the "customize gallery" window, correct? Are those keywords only for internal smugmug searches and not for google?

I'm gonna have to caption a lot of photos. :-O

[Baldy]

This is not the same as the "keywords" line in the "customize gallery" window, correct? Are those keywords only for internal smugmug searches and not for google?

I'm gonna have to caption a lot of photos. :-OThat's correct. Keywords in customize gallery help our search engine find your albums but don't help Google.

What you place in your cobranding section for page title is critically important. It's what appears on your title bar in your browser and Google assumes those words are critically important to you (it's also the default name for bookmarks).

If you do as Andy did and place Moon River Photography -- Andy Williams there, it will appear that way on every page. So Andy is not the only Andy Williams on the net, nor the only one associated with Moon River (http://www.andywilliams.com), because Andy Williams the singer and his Moon River theater are very popular. And yet when you search for Andy Williams photography, the best man wins. :D

(Because he has the word photography in his title.)

If you don't specify a page title, we make the name of your gallery the title. So my gallery of Concours d'Elegance Award Winners,

http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/18762

comes up #1 in Google when you search for those words, beating the official site, the big automotive mags that cover it, etc.

Also, links to your site are hugely important.

[mercphoto]

What you place in your cobranding section for page title is critically important. It's what appears on your title bar in your browser and Google assumes those words are critically important to you (it's also the default name for bookmarks).

Gotcha. I'm still trying to learn what I need to do to replace the header, for example. I think I have some local help on that.

Also, links to your site are hugely important.

Sounds like networking (the old fashioned kind :)

[tmlphoto]

I just googled one of my picture captions and it showed up at the top of the list. Very cool. I better get busy captioning.

[lynnesite]

That's correct. Keywords in customize gallery help our search engine find your albums but don't help Google.

Also, links to your site are hugely important.

Respectfully, the number one feature I need on Smugmug (besides upgraded aspect ratio discovery/offering for print) is a way to bulk caption (and here's the change) with the FILENAME already in the caption block. So I can title by image number then description. Example: 27275-No Hands Bridge.

It's way too much work for me otherwise to caption, with the number of images I post, especially for event shoots like the recent Tevis event where I posted 618 images (out of 1200 shot).

TIA,
Lynne

[timsims]

I'm not seeing this work for me. I've had photos up from my Eleuthera vacation for around six weeks. I hadn't captioned them all until today but I did a Google Image search for "Tippy's" which is a unique term that has been in the caption of several of my photos for the entire six weeks and it didn't come up with any of my "Tippy's" photos. I have captioned many others today with keywords that folks might search for images of (specifically Eleuthera), but is there anything else that I need to do?

[mercphoto]

I'm not seeing this work for me. I've had photos up from my Eleuthera vacation for around six weeks. I hadn't captioned them all until today but I did a Google Image search for "Tippy's" which is a unique term that has been in the caption of several of my photos for the entire six weeks and it didn't come up with any of my "Tippy's" photos. I have captioned many others today with keywords that folks might search for images of (specifically Eleuthera), but is there anything else that I need to do?

I can do a google search on "Mercury Photography Texas", which is my title page, and its the number one hit. But if I do a search on "skusa austin grand prix", which is the caption for about 70 photos, I get no hits at all.

I have noticed that featured galleries get much more hits than normal galleries, though. Nice feature. :)

[gfiebich]

In my testing, I haven't gotten the smugmug search tool to return results from keywords that appear in my gallery's comments. Keywords placed in photo captions do appear in the search results, but there seems to be a delay of about 2-5 minutes before the captions are indexed by the smugmug database. Am I just being impatient with the comments indexing, or does the search tool ignore comments?

This is important to me because I would like to invite my race participants to self-identify their photos by placing their bib numbers in the comments field. Our event results system links each person's finish time directly to the smugmug search tool with their bib number in the URL string. If you're not following me, go here (http://www.greatriversmarathon.org/Component/option,com_grm_results/Itemid,129/) and click on the little camera icon next to the first result.

[Baldy]

In my testing, I haven't gotten the smugmug search tool to return results from keywords that appear in my gallery's comments.
It's true, we don't search words in comments currently. We'll have to talk about this and see if we can do something.

Thanks,
Baldy

[mercphoto]

I can do a google search on "Mercury Photography Texas", which is my title page, and its the number one hit. But if I do a search on "skusa austin grand prix", which is the caption for about 70 photos, I get no hits at all.

Still no hits today. Strangely, this forum thread does hit. :) But my galleries don't. :(

[arthousephotography]

Still no hits today. Strangely, this forum thread does hit. :) But my galleries don't. :(
Have tried various searches in google, title, captions etc and nowt. Not sure what I am doing wrong....
www.arthousephotography.smugmug.com (http://www.arthousephotography.smugmug.com)

[flyingpylon]

Just a little info for everyone.... it can take anywhere from a few days to a few months for your content to be indexed by Google, and then even more time for it to show up in search results. It really pays to be patient.

Also, if it makes you feel better you can go to Google and submit your URL. But that doesn't guarantee that your pages will be indexed any sooner.

[arthousephotography]

Just a little info for everyone.... it can take anywhere from a few days to a few months for your content to be indexed by Google, and then even more time for it to show up in search results. It really pays to be patient.

Also, if it makes you feel better you can go to Google and submit your URL. But that doesn't guarantee that your pages will be indexed any sooner.
Will just have to be patient....thanks for your advice.:1drink

[onethumb]

Will just have to be patient....thanks for your advice.:1drink

The "Google Dance" usually takes a minimum of 30 days for content to show up. But content can only show up if it can easily be found somehow.

So the trick is to get some links somewhere else that point to your galleries. Then Google will both find them more easily and rank them more highly.

Easiest way is to add a link to your sig in any forums (like this one) on which you post. If you have another website, or blog, or anything like that, adding a link is a big help too.

Otherwise, you're stuck hoping Google manages to find you this month among smugmug's thousands of customers. Google's good, but not perfect. :)

Don

[Baldy]

Another consideration is how common are the words you use. Art. House. Photography. They're all very common so they get lost in a sea of contenders.

It's nice when your words are more like Andy Williams photography.

[rainforest1155]

Just in case you don't know: When you type your website in google in the following way, google will show you all entries, which it collected from there and you can even search for specific keywords on your page:

site:rainforest1155.smugmug.com

This gives you the possibility to see what is already searchable in google.
More advanced search features are described here: http://www.google.com/features.html

Have a nice day,
Sebastian

[zacker]

So, how does this work? I caption ALL my Images and google will find them? I have read and reread this thread and i cant figure it out.. (i am a tad slow) Do i cap. all my images with key words? or do i somehow do something with my domain name? Remember, I know NOTHING about this stuff.
Thanks for all the help.. Please clear this up for me if you can,
-zacker-

[Andy]

So, how does this work? I caption ALL my Images and google will find them? I have read and reread this thread and i cant figure it out.. (i am a tad slow) Do i cap. all my images with key words? or do i somehow do something with my domain name? Remember, I know NOTHING about this stuff.
Thanks for all the help.. Please clear this up for me if you can,
-zacker-
Hi zacker,

Caption them. Put in good words in the gallery descriptions. Use gallery keywords (in customize gallery). And most important, use photo keywords!

Try googling for

westchester senior portrait

and see what comes up :)

:wave holler if we can help more!

[rainforest1155]

So, how does this work? I caption ALL my Images and google will find them? I have read and reread this thread and i cant figure it out.. (i am a tad slow) Do i cap. all my images with key words? or do i somehow do something with my domain name? Remember, I know NOTHING about this stuff.
You just write captions for your images and add relevant keywords to the pictures. The search engines will come by and pick them up. Also you can some summarising keywords to the gallery itself in the gallery customizations.

While captions generally contain sentences to be read by your visitors, search engines also use them for indexing your site in addition to the keywords you assign to images.
I try to keep the image keywords on a level on what's visible in the picture and where it is taken or to group a certain set of images together consciously. I don't add my name to every image or whatever to every picture, but there are probably people doing this and having success with it.

I hope this helps a bit,
Sebastian

[dogwood]

Just in case you don't know: When you type your website in google in the following way, google will show you all entries, which it collected from there and you can even search for specific keywords on your page:

site:rainforest1155.smugmug.com

This gives you the possibility to see what is already searchable in google.
More advanced search features are described here: http://www.google.com/features.html

Have a nice day,
Sebastian
Sebastian and Andy:

Great stuff. This kind of info is very useful -- I'd love to see more tips and info like this as it applies to smugmug sites. I actually had no idea captioning photos was this important.

[smhs.images]

I just sold a photo for the cover of a book!!! I asked the art director and she advised me they found the photo by doing a google search of Biograph Theater photos. So yes caption and keywords do work. My photo comes up 4 in the search on google. That was the easiest money I have ever made http://dgrin.com/images/icons/Wink2.gif

Thanks Smugmug

[Cammo]

thank you chris, and don, and everyone at smugmug, for doing the "google dance" so well. i'm getting a lot of folks coming into my site by googling for specific stuff, and they're finding it at my smugmug site!

for those of you who are interested in selling your work... i just wanted to take a moment guys, to stress the importance of good captioning of your online images - that is, if you intend to sell them.

i have seen a very substantial increase in sales volume lately, due to the fact that folks are finding individual images via google search. this one just got picked up by a website designer, for a client that they are working with in the financial space:

(sony f828 image)
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/3845284-S.jpg

she found it by googling "tappan zee bridge" for images

so, my advice: caption everything, with an eye towards potential searches :D

enjoy (getting paid for your) photography,

If you do a google 'image' search for either your 'tappan zee bridge' or my 'johnathan thurston' no smugmug images are returned.

Why wouldn't google image search index these?

[rainforest1155]

Sebastian and Andy:

Great stuff. This kind of info is very useful -- I'd love to see more tips and info like this as it applies to smugmug sites. I actually had no idea captioning photos was this important.
Google seems to really dig captions. I see a lot people coming from google searching for word I would never have thought of me having a good ranking for in google, because they're so common. As I try to caption my pictures now in three languages chances are even higher of getting yet another hit.
But don't overestimate the importance search engine hits! Most of the time they just view the one picture that brought them to my site and then leave, but there are also times when a visitor really sucks in everything you throw at him. :wink

If you're interested in what kind of searches bring people to your site be sure to install statcounter or a similar tool. That way you see where your traffic comes from and also for what people searched. You can then simply click on the search and look at what rank you got in the results page.

Sebastian

[zacker]

Thanks Sebastian.... So I need to clcik "add caption" on each pic and add a caption like "Passion Flower, Canon Powershot pro1" and then google will find Passion Flower, or Canon, or Powershot Pro1 ??? that is cool.. so heres another one for you guys. how do I make it so i can type "broken fence photography" into a search engin and have it find my site? or just "
broken fence"?

Is this possible with a smugmug site?
-zacker-

[Andy]

Thanks Sebastian.... So I need to clcik "add caption" on each pic and add a caption like "Passion Flower, Canon Powershot pro1" and then google will find Passion Flower, or Canon, or Powershot Pro1 ??? that is cool.. so heres another one for you guys. how do I make it so i can type "broken fence photography" into a search engin and have it find my site? or just "
broken fence"?

Is this possible with a smugmug site?
-zacker-

Have your business name as your footer, that helps, too.

[zacker]

Have your business name as your footer, that helps, too.


yeah, i was looking today and couldnt find how to get into my headr and edit that.. and the footer? How do i access the page I had when i signed up.. the one where i edited my header..i was looking at the control panel but cant remember how i did it.
-zacker-

[rainforest1155]

yeah, i was looking today and couldnt find how to get into my headr and edit that.. and the footer? How do i access the page I had when i signed up.. the one where i edited my header..i was looking at the control panel but cant remember how i did it.
-zacker-
It's the following link:
Customize (http://smugmug.com/homepage/cobrand.mg): everything from changing colors to completely replacing smugmugs look & feel! | Help (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors)

in the organize & customize section

Hope this helps,
Sebastian

[zacker]

It's the following link:
Customize (http://smugmug.com/homepage/cobrand.mg): everything from changing colors to completely replacing smugmugs look & feel! | Help (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors)

in the organize & customize section

Hope this helps,
Sebastian

Thanks again Sebastian!
-zacker-

[Cammo]

If you do a google 'image' search for either your 'tappan zee bridge' or my 'johnathan thurston' no smugmug images are returned.

Why wouldn't google image search index these?

bump..

[Andy]

If you do a google 'image' search for either your 'tappan zee bridge' or my 'johnathan thurston' no smugmug images are returned.

Why wouldn't google image search index these?
I can't speak for image search but do a google on Tappan Zee Bridge and I'm on page one :D

[Andy]

If you do a google 'image' search for either your 'tappan zee bridge' or my 'johnathan thurston' no smugmug images are returned.

Why wouldn't google image search index these?
And here's Gogole "Image" search result:

[Cammo]

I can't speak for image search but do a google on Tappan Zee Bridge and I'm on page one :D

So it is but I found it on page six - could be that I am searching from Australia? Anyone else see it on page one?

I can't figure out why none of my smugmug images appear on google image search. Any thoughts?

[Andy]

So it is but I found it on page six - could be that I am searching from Australia? Anyone else see it on page one?

I can't figure out why none of my smugmug images appear on google image search. Any thoughts?
Let's focus more on what' you've done. Explain your keywords, etc. :ear

[marlinspike]

That's correct. Keywords in customize gallery help our search engine find your albums but don't help Google.

Wow, I wish I knew that before. That explains why google doesn't really pick up my stuff. Ok...so is there a way to adjust the cobranding so that I control which galleries can use captions? For like 95% of my galleries I wouldn't want the captions to show, but there are 2 galleries there where I do want them to show.

[Andy]

Wow, I wish I knew that before. That explains why google doesn't really pick up my stuff. Ok...so is there a way to adjust the cobranding so that I control which galleries can use captions? For like 95% of my galleries I wouldn't want the captions to show, but there are 2 galleries there where I do want them to show.
Gallery keywords do NOT show anywhere. Look at the helpie in customize gallery page, you'll see more ...

[marlinspike]

Gallery keywords do NOT show anywhere. Look at the helpie in customize gallery page, you'll see more ...

Right right I know...but we're saying that captions help google pick up the photos right? And caption do show under the photo, no? How can I make captions for google to pick them up but for them not to show to people viewing the page? I know how to do this to all of the galleries, but I want to leave captions working for a couple galleries.

[Cammo]

Let's focus more on what' you've done. Explain your keywords, etc. :ear

Most (95% or more) of my images on smugmug have keywords in the IPTC info as well as full captions. Try http://www.cameronlaird.com/gallery/1594083/1/77311894 as an example. No keywords in the gallery customization, just on individual images...

[Andy]

Most (95% or more) of my images on smugmug have keywords in the IPTC info as well as full captions. Try http://www.cameronlaird.com/gallery/1594083/1/77311894 as an example. No keywords in the gallery customization, just on individual images...
As the other tips suggest, there's a lot more to it. Are you blogging? Doing anything to increase your x-linking?

[Cammo]

As the other tips suggest, there's a lot more to it. Are you blogging? Doing anything to increase your x-linking?

I am giving the blogging a try - trying to get into the Photographers bLounge but still waiting for a response from the guys organising that. My blog is brand new as of yesterday so I may as well post a link to it here (and I will add it to my sig). http://camlaird.blogspot.com although I would hate for my blog address to end up above my real website!

Apart from that I am doing all I can - I spend thousands a year on Yellow Pages advertising and I am 100% committed to dropping Yellow Pages next year!

Any of your other tips would REALLY be appreciated!

[Andy]

http://camlaird.blogspot.com although I would hate for my blog address to end up above my real website!
So what? Why should you care? I don't care where or I'm listed or how, so long as you get to me. Have PROMINENT links form your blog to your photos. I know this sounds harsh, it's not meant to be. Lots of other great tips earlier in this thread, and also in the MYOB forum in general. But in the end, I say, don't worry HOW they got there, but be glad they did get there :D

:deal

[Seamus]

I googled sportspix and my site was on the first page......... cool :clap .

[Cammo]

I googled sportspix and my site was on the first page......... cool :clap .

You call it your site?

SmugMug - The ultimate in photo sharing. Online photo albums ... (http://www.sportspix.ie/)
The ultimate in photo sharing. Easily create online photo albums. Share, store, organize and print.

I call it an ad for Smugmug that in no way distinguishes your site... See http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=34176

[Cammo]

So what? Why should you care? I don't care where or I'm listed or how, so long as you get to me. Have PROMINENT links form your blog to your photos. I know this sounds harsh, it's not meant to be. Lots of other great tips earlier in this thread, and also in the MYOB forum in general. But in the end, I say, don't worry HOW they got there, but be glad they did get there :D

:deal

Why should I care? Because I do and that is pretty much it. I want my meta descriptions to refect my business, not Smugmug's. Along with others I have posted numerous times about this with no reply from Smugmug. Still waiting and it is on the top of MY personal list of Smugmug must-do's. Yes, the subscription price is good, the back-up is second to none but having a professional photographer's google responses read The ultimate in photo sharing. Easily create online photo albums. Share, store, organize and print.
is plain ridiculous. People can't create an online album at my site, nor can they store or organize.
This has to be addressed by someone at Smugmug reasonably soon...

Sportspix addressed this without knowing it.... Do a google search for Sportspix (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sportspix) and the top response in Australia is www.sportspix.com.au (http://www.sportspix.com.au). Have a look at how that is displayed and compare it with with www.sportspix.ie (http://www.sportspix.ie) which looks JUST like an ad for Smugmug. I would NEVER click to that link if I was looking for sports photos or a sports photographer.
Sportspix said he is overjoyed to see his site on the front page of google - I'm sure Smugmug would be too!

[Andy]

Why should I care? Because I do and that is pretty much it. I want my meta descriptions to refect my business, not Smugmug's. Along with others I have posted numerous times about this with no reply from Smugmug. Still waiting and it is on the top of MY personal list of Smugmug must-do's. Yes, the subscription price is good, the back-up is second to none but having a professional photographer's google responses read The ultimate in photo sharing. Easily create online photo albums. Share, store, organize and print.
is plain ridiculous. People can't create an online album at my site, nor can they store or organize.
This has to be addressed by someone at Smugmug reasonably soon...

Sportspix addressed this without knowing it.... Do a google search for Sportspix (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sportspix) and the top response in Australia is www.sportspix.com.au (http://www.sportspix.com.au). Have a look at how that is displayed and compare it with with www.sportspix.ie (http://www.sportspix.ie) which looks JUST like an ad for Smugmug. I would NEVER click to that link if I was looking for sports photos or a sports photographer.
Sportspix said he is overjoyed to see his site on the front page of google - I'm sure Smugmug would be too!

OK - you and many have said the same thing, and we hear you. I don't think that this is changing (you can bring it up in the features request thread if you wish)... but just think of this: you are using a shared service - and the only Meta info is what's there now. You are also riding on the high-indexing factor of SmugMug - and IMO that shouldn't be discounted. I wish there were a way to give you what you want, but I'm told there isn't. So, for now, I guess, you live with it, get the good high rankings, or... ?

[Andy]

I have posted numerous times about this with no reply from Smugmug.
I posted nearly immediately after Anton brought it up:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=34176

And it's been discussed lots in other threads. I'm sorry if I didn't answer your post directly, sometimes one or two get by me :D

[Andy]

You call it your site?

SmugMug - The ultimate in photo sharing. Online photo albums ... (http://www.sportspix.ie/)
The ultimate in photo sharing. Easily create online photo albums. Share, store, organize and print.

I call it an ad for Smugmug that in no way distinguishes your site... See http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=34176
Hi Cammo, I can sense your frustration about this. And I really wish there was a way to have it your way.

When you have your own site, servers, domain, hosting software, photo gallery software, comms, networking, backup, etc, then you control how the indexing goes. But on SmugMug, at least right now, we don't have a way to do what you want. I wish you could see the positive things in this?

[Cammo]

Hi Cammo, I can sense your frustration about this. And I really wish there was a way to have it your way.

When you have your own site, servers, domain, hosting software, photo gallery software, comms, networking, backup, etc, then you control how the indexing goes. But on SmugMug, at least right now, we don't have a way to do what you want. I wish you could see the positive things in this?

Well, I can't see any positives in the fact that it can't be done. What is positive about that? Can anyone who understands the technical side of this let us know if it is a remote possibility?

However I do think just about everything else about Smugmug is perfect or as close as you can get to perfect. :D

[flyingdutchie]

Well, I can't see any positives in the fact that it can't be done. What is positive about that? Can anyone who understands the technical side of this let us know if it is a remote possibility?

However I do think just about everything else about Smugmug is perfect or as close as you can get to perfect. :D

Cammo:
It CAN be done technically. It is super easy, compared to the other services that Smugmug provides.

But, i guess, it can not be done as part of Smugmug's business-model... Smugmug just won't do it, it seems.

Andy:
I'd like to hear the business-reason that Smugmug 'can not' do it. I just think it is strange that (1) the description in the Google-results of my site www.streetsofboston.com (http://www.streetsofboston.com) is incorrect and (2) how this is somehow beneficial to Smugmug.... :dunno

[Andy]

Cammo:
It CAN be done technically. It is super easy, compared to the other services that Smugmug provides.

But, i guess, it can not be done as part of Smugmug's business-model... Smugmug just won't do it, it seems.

Andy:
I'd like to hear the business-reason that Smugmug 'can not' do it. I just think it is strange that (1) the description in the Google-results of my site www.streetsofboston.com (http://www.streetsofboston.com) is incorrect and (2) how this is somehow beneficial to Smugmug.... :dunno
I'll defer to Onethumb...

[dogwood]

Right right I know...but we're saying that captions help google pick up the photos right? And caption do show under the photo, no? How can I make captions for google to pick them up but for them not to show to people viewing the page? I know how to do this to all of the galleries, but I want to leave captions working for a couple galleries.

Anyone know the anwser to this question?

[flyingdutchie]

Anyone know the anwser to this question?

Maybe something like this...?:

First add a new CSS style in your CSS section:

.invisible_caption {
display: none;
}


Then for each caption:

<HTML><DIV class="invisible_caption"> Your caption etc. etc. </DIV></HTML>

[rainforest1155]

[invisible caption solution for google to pick up]
You're right - I do this all the time with the captions on my site in three languages. Based on cookies I hide the other two languages with CSS and google still picks up all languages. People even come to my site with a mixture of keywords in multiple languages. I guess they're sometimes baffeled a bit why the caption from the google snippet doesn't seem to be there - as the standard language displayed is English until they change it.

Sebastian

[rainforest1155]

Gallery keywords do NOT show anywhere. Look at the helpie in customize gallery page, you'll see more ...
I just want to point out that they're still visible for search engines as they're used in the meta-keyword-tag for the gallery.

Sebastian

[dogwood]

I just want to point out that they're still visible for search engines as they're used in the meta-keyword-tag for the gallery.

Sebastian

Yeah, I thought that too because it seems to me like the search engines do pick these keywords up. But I am obviously no expert on any of this...

Anyway, thanks Flyingdutchie and Sebastian for your help with my other question.

[Seamus]

Sportspix addressed this without knowing it.... Do a google search for Sportspix (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sportspix) and the top response in Australia is www.sportspix.com.au (http://www.sportspix.com.au). Have a look at how that is displayed and compare it with with www.sportspix.ie (http://www.sportspix.ie) which looks JUST like an ad for Smugmug. I would NEVER click to that link if I was looking for sports photos or a sports photographer.
Sportspix said he is overjoyed to see his site on the front page of google - I'm sure Smugmug would be too!

I don't expect Getty's to ring me looking for photos :wink

If I wanted to remove the smugmug stuff from a google search I would have my domain name hosted by a different company and link from that site to my smugmug gallery.

I am thinking about doing this because I am stupid and don't know how to use the css code to customise the smugmug site. Raphael Nadal is a good example of this type of site.

raphael's site/ (http://www.vamosrafael.com/)

I pay a hosting site a small yearly fee for my domain name. Web page hosting is included in the price and, when I get the time, I will do this. I intend to put up a front page with links to riders sites and a HUGE link to my smugmug photos:):

I have a few (10 or so) sites linking to my photos and I want to return the favour. To me, and remember the disclaimer about my intelligence or lack of, this is the best solution. It could, possibly, maybe, (:rofl )also remove the smugmug references from a googe search.

My personal view is that smugmug is unique in the business world. They provide a fantastic service in a friendly and courteous manner and a few references to their site in a web search is not a problem to me:dunno


I am still amazed that getting a smugmug site has put me on the front page of a google search.

as always ymmv, imho, afaik, blah blah. and this post isn't flame bait,

[marlinspike]

Anyone know the anwser to this question?

What I ended up doing is #caption_bottom {display: none}

That way any captions at the bottom of images won't show, but captions will still show in Journal mode...here's hoping nobody looks at my galleries that don't default to journal mode in journal mode since my captions are written to be google optimized (i.e. not complete sentences).

[rainforest1155]

What I ended up doing is #caption_bottom {display: none}
.caption {display: none}
sould take care of the captions in journal view. Haven't tested it though.

Sebastian

[marlinspike]

.caption {display: none}
sould take care of the captions in journal view. Haven't tested it though.

Sebastian

It would, but the thing is there is one (or maybe more I forget) gallery where I force the journal style and I do want those captions to be read...so basically I want to leave captions visible in aa few galleries but invisible in most.

[rainforest1155]

It would, but the thing is there is one (or maybe more I forget) gallery where I force the journal style and I do want those captions to be read...so basically I want to leave captions visible in aa few galleries but invisible in most.
Easy one - use this and replace the xxxx with the gallery ID:
.caption {display: none;}
.caption .gallery_xxxx {display: block;}

You can also add numerous repetition of the last line for various galleries or separate them with a comma:
.caption .gallery_xxxx, .caption .gallery_xxxx, .caption .gallery_xxxx {display: block;}

Sebastian

[marlinspike]

Easy one - use this and replace the xxxx with the gallery ID:


Sebastian

Villen danke! :clap

[smhs.images]

Sebastian

I tried this in my css box

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none}
.caption .gallery_1675502, .caption .gallery_686279, .caption .gallery_1676054,.caption .gallery_612745, .caption .gallery_660711{display: block}

and it didn't do anything but make my banner go away. Did I type it correctly? I also tried just the
.caption {display: none} and that didn't work either.

[Andy]

Sebastian

I tried this in my css box

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none}
.caption .gallery_1675502, .caption .gallery_686279, .caption .gallery_1676054,.caption .gallery_612745, .caption .gallery_660711{display: block}

and it didn't do anything but make my banner go away. Did I type it correctly? I also tried just the
.caption {display: none} and that didn't work either.
semi colon after block and none

[Mike Lane]

semi colon after block and none

That shouldn't be the problem - although it is the technically correct thing to do :thumb. I think the problem is that it should be the other way. Hence:

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.gallery_1675502 .caption, .gallery_686279 .caption, .gallery_1676054 .caption, .gallery_612745 .caption, .gallery_660711 .caption {display: block;}


Notice that the .caption comes after the .gallery_xxxxxx since .caption is a child element of the .gallery_xxxxxxx elements? Also it's very important that you have the space between the last .caption and the following {. Without it the whole thing won't work.

[smhs.images]

That shouldn't be the problem - although it is the technically correct thing to do :thumb. I think the problem is that it should be the other way. Hence:

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.gallery_1675502 .caption, .gallery_686279 .caption, .gallery_1676054 .caption, .gallery_612745 .caption, .gallery_660711 .caption {display: block;}


Notice that the .caption comes after the .gallery_xxxxxx since .caption is a child element of the .gallery_xxxxxxx elements? Also it's very important that you have the space between the last .caption and the following {. Without it the whole thing won't work.

I tried the above and nothing happens. But it didn't break my banner this time.

[smhs.images]

Okay so, something else was wrong with my css that is why it wasn't working. This was the code that ended up working for anyone who is interested. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it, as always!

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.caption .gallery_1675502, .caption .gallery_686279, .caption .gallery_1676054,.caption .gallery_612745, .caption .gallery_660711{display: block;}

[Mike Lane]

Okay so, something else was wrong with my css that is why it wasn't working. This was the code that ended up working for anyone who is interested. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it, as always!

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.caption .gallery_1675502, .caption .gallery_686279, .caption .gallery_1676054,.caption .gallery_612745, .caption .gallery_660711{display: block;}

What exactly is that doing for you again? :ear It looks like you're trying to hide the captions everywhere except for in those 5 galleries. Do I have that correct? If so, I'd say that it isn't working since I can see captions in all of your galleries not just the 5 listed. And trust me on this one, the .caption must go behind the .gallery_xxxxxx to make this work at all :deal

[smhs.images]

Okay, yes I was just looking at it. Using this gallery as an example http://www.shawnaseto.com/gallery/612745. With this code


/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.gallery_1675502 .caption, .gallery_686279 .caption, .gallery_1676054 .caption, .gallery_612745 .caption, .gallery_660711 .caption {display: block;}



Nothing happens to the captions, they stay for all views.


Using this code

/* hides captions for galleries listed */
.caption {display: none;}
.caption .gallery_1675502, .caption .gallery_686279, .caption .gallery_1676054,.caption .gallery_612745, .caption .gallery_660711{display: block;}

The traditional view and the journal view do not show captions but others do.

Also looking at this gallery http://www.shawnaseto.com/gallery/516006 I just realized that it did remove the captions from this gallery in journal and traditional view, which wasn't what I wanted.


I tried this (and tested it)
/* removes caption in filmstrip and smugmug modes modes */
#caption_bottom {display: none}

But that wasn't what I wanted either. Basically I would like to have captions hidden in certain galleries. Or, if I had to choose, I would like to eliminate captions in the traditional view for ALL galleries.

[Mike Lane]

Let's try this:

/* Display the captions in selected galleries only */

/* Step 1, hide the captions everywhere and make sure the top caption never shows up */
#bodyWrapper .caption,
#bodyWrapper #caption_top {display:none;}

/* Step 2, override the caption hiding in the following galleries */
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1675502 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_686279 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1676054 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_612745 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_660711 .caption {display:block}

[smhs.images]

Let's try this:

/* Display the captions in selected galleries only */

/* Step 1, hide the captions everywhere and make sure the top caption never shows up */
#bodyWrapper .caption,
#bodyWrapper #caption_top {display:none;}

/* Step 2, override the caption hiding in the following galleries */
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1675502 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_686279 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1676054 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_612745 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_660711 .caption {display:block}




Okay that seems to work but it does the opposite of what I need. Those are the galleries I want NO captions to show up in and that makes them the only galleries that the captions show up in. I guess I could make it work by listing all the galleries that I want to see captions in, but they are the majority. Can this be reversed?

BTW, thanks for your help. I wish I knew all this code stuff!

[smhs.images]

I tried this (and tested it)
/* removes caption in filmstrip and smugmug modes modes */
#caption_bottom {display: none}

But that wasn't what I wanted either. Basically I would like to have captions hidden in certain galleries. Or, if I had to choose, I would like to eliminate captions in the traditional view for ALL galleries.

I edited my previous post with the above...

[Mike Lane]

Okay that seems to work but it does the opposite of what I need. Those are the galleries I want NO captions to show up in and that makes them the only galleries that the captions show up in. I guess I could make it work by listing all the galleries that I want to see captions in, but they are the majority. Can this be reversed?

BTW, thanks for your help. I wish I knew all this code stuff!
I guess I'm all confused. Sure It can be reversed easily. Remove all that code I gave you earlier and use this:

/* Remove the captions from certain galleries */
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1675502 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_686279 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1676054 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_612745 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_660711 .caption {display:none;}

[smhs.images]

I guess I'm all confused. Sure It can be reversed easily. Remove all that code I gave you earlier and use this:

/* Remove the captions from certain galleries */
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1675502 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_686279 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_1676054 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_612745 .caption,
#bodyWrapper .gallery_660711 .caption {display:none;}

WOO HOO!!! That appears to have done exactly what I needed. Just an FYI, captions still show up if one of these photos ends up in your favorite photos (which is what I wanted!!!).
Thanks so much again!:clap
Shawna