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Shakey
Jul-15-2004, 10:20 AM
I know someone who loves horses I am thinking of framing this in a gray barnwood frame. 8x10



http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/6173252-L.jpg

The horse is centered , do you think there is to much sky? What do you prefer a crop off the left side or right or leave as is?


Tim

ginger_55
Jul-15-2004, 12:59 PM
I know someone who loves horses I am thinking of framing this in a gray barnwood frame. 8x10





http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/6173252-S.jpg

The horse is centered , do you think there is to much sky? What do you prefer a crop off the left side or right or leave as is?


Tim
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Tim, I love the horse and the sky, is there anymore horse in the original. I was real excited til I scrolled down. I would like to see more horse in the picture, but I like the picture anyway. To be absolutely fabulous, I think you need more horse, or that is just how it struck me.

Is he yours?

ginger

Trouble

snapapple
Jul-15-2004, 01:48 PM
I know someone who loves horses I am thinking of framing this in a gray barnwood frame. 8x10



http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/6173252-S.jpg

The horse is centered , do you think there is to much sky? What do you prefer a crop off the left side or right or leave as is?


Tim

IMO I would like to see more horse. Was there something in the way?
I'm going to try the crop. Get back to you

snapapple
Jul-15-2004, 01:56 PM
I know someone who loves horses I am thinking of framing this in a gray barnwood frame. 8x10

http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/6173252-S.jpg

The horse is centered , do you think there is to much sky? What do you prefer a crop off the left side or right or leave as is?


Tim

Nice shot! Pretty horse, nice sky.
I think, crop the left a bit. That leaves the horse looking into the picture with a little room around the edge. He's on the left third line. Here's my try in 8x10.

wxwax
Jul-15-2004, 03:58 PM
Shakey has discovered Channel Mixer with a vengeance! Looks really good, Shakes. :thumb I agree with Snapapple's crop. Is there wide angle distortion of the horse's snout?

ginger_55
Jul-15-2004, 04:10 PM
Shakey has discovered Channel Mixer with a vengeance! Looks really good, Shakes. :thumb I agree with Snapapple's crop. Is there wide angle distortion of the horse's snout?____________________

I concur. I like Snappy's crop, too. Since there is no more horse, the crop makes the whole photo really look top notch.

Yes, that is wide angle distortion, and I am not even privy to the info, but that is really neat in this shot, don't you think.

I read somewhere along time ago that that is not really distortion, that if you were to go stand in the same position as that lens is, was, whatever, it would look like that to you.

I love wide angle.

ginger

I don't make trouble, trouble makes me

wxwax
Jul-15-2004, 04:13 PM
Yes, that is wide angle distortion, and I am not even privy to the info, but that is really neat in this shot, don't you think.


:wxwax Troublemaker.

















:rofl

ginger_55
Jul-15-2004, 04:18 PM
Shakey has discovered Channel Mixer with a vengeance! Looks really good, Shakes. :thumb I agree with Snapapple's crop. Is there wide angle distortion of the horse's snout?
I want to know channel mixer if it looks like that! Is there a tutorial on it I wonder. Will do a search later. I have a marsh shot of the storm that I like, but I can't make the colors right, and I can't make it look good. Is better in blk and white, but the blk and white could be improved upon.

Also, if you have brush marks from cloning, how do you get rid of them? The blur, or other?


Trouble is my middle name, it formed me,
ginger

wxwax
Jul-16-2004, 07:06 AM
In channel mixer, try moving the Red slider as high as 160. Move the green slider to 140 or so, and move the blue slider as far to the left as you need to to balance it. Then fiddle. It will not work on all shots. But when it does, it creates the Ansel Adams type effect. I can't remember where I read it.

Not sure how to cure cloning borders. Sometimes cloning really small bits works best for me, sometimes that leaves a pattern and cloning bigger chunks works better. I often clone around the object as well, to disguise a pattern which is otherwise obvious. And you could try cloning around the sides of the object, using areas not too far from where you're cloning. Also, try different opacities and flows for the bordering areas, so they blend better.

Shakey
Jul-16-2004, 07:43 AM
Snappy, your crop is right on thanks!

Ginger my black and white conversion method courtesy of a Andy Williams tutorial or link,mixed with my personal methods .


for the photo above;

Levels and curves, Masked Sky from Horse and fiddled a bit nothing extreme.

Cloned out : light post and floodlight that was protruding from horses back.
Back of my wife's head(as beautiful as it is it had to go :D ) which was at the horses neck.

Most of the work went into these two corrections, masks are not perfect for me so I had to clone to fix mask anomolies.
Sharpen , Unsharp mask.

B&W convert

Channel mixer select monochrome
slide red to 50% + _ 1 or 2 %
Slide green to same area 48-52%
Leave blue alone
Adjs level, contrast tweaked a hair -1 i think
Selective color : select black, slide slider all the way over.
Then make a layer mask and get a brush and remove areas that are to black for your liking. Again thanks to Andy for this tip.

Dodge and burn to taste.

Place in neat image and do all auto prompts.

Save as, and thats it.
Original Horse shot here...
http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/6199906-M.jpg

For my Just a bike shot I did Auto levels , channel mixer, selective colors , burnt clouds, USM,upload to smugmug, total time in post including upload to smugmug...
5-10 minutes.

Gosh I am lazy :dunno

Tim