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jandrewnelson
Sep-21-2010, 08:24 AM
How can I make this picture better?
http://meesoon.smugmug.com/Travel/JourneyAmerica/City-Hall/1016613150_bTHQW-X3.jpg
I want to offer this photo for sale to a local tourist group, but need to know how I can make it better. I'd also like to know specifically what workflow you used as I'm trying to teach myself Photoshop.
Thanks and blessings
Jerry
www.meesoon.smugmug.com
Foques
Sep-21-2010, 08:46 AM
what would be the appeal of purchasing this photo?
I don't think it can be made better..
pathfinder
Sep-21-2010, 09:21 AM
Cloning out the dust spots on your sensor, causing the round blobs in your sky, can't hurt.
The building looks crooked to me. Can you straighten it up, perhaps?
More color with a wider tonal range in the reflection might help.
Icebear
Sep-21-2010, 12:43 PM
I don't think it can be made better..
I disagree. I think it could be made better. I just don't think it could be made "good." :rolleyes The sky is bland at best. There's flare all over. Let's not even talk about the nasty sensor crud. The subject (assuming it's the building) has no detail. Better to reshoot multiple exposures with a more interesting sky, and probably apply some "mild" HDR treatment. This shot would be an instant "Reject" in my LR workflow. Sorry. I really don't like to comment totally negatively on folks work, but . . .
Foques
Sep-21-2010, 01:42 PM
haha John, well played, sir.
that's what I meant. granted, there are some tweaks that can be done, but like you said, it is a reject.
W.W. Webster
Sep-21-2010, 02:47 PM
How can I make this picture better?Straighten up the pronounced lean to the left! :D
angevin1
Sep-21-2010, 03:58 PM
How can I make this picture better?
http://meesoon.smugmug.com/Travel/JourneyAmerica/City-Hall/1016613150_bTHQW-X3.jpg
I want to offer this photo for sale to a local tourist group, but need to know how I can make it better. I'd also like to know specifically what workflow you used as I'm trying to teach myself Photoshop.
Thanks and blessings
Jerry
www.meesoon.smugmug.com (http://www.meesoon.smugmug.com)
Hey Jerry,
What is your assessment of your photo...what do you not like about it? If you will help us determine what it is you do not like, I think me as well as others can potentially offer ideas for helping you with it.
cheers, tw
jandrewnelson
Sep-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Thanks everyone for the input. But I sold it to the customer today for $250.00 as is.
Thanks again though.
Blessings
Jerry
racer
Sep-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Thanks everyone for the input. But I sold it to the customer today for $250.00 as is.
Thanks again though.
Blessings
Jerry
:wow:eek1:yikes:eek1 :bow$250!!! Did he buy the print, or just the file? How big was the image when he seen it? What do you think he seen in it for him to want to spend $250 on it?
This shot would be an instant "Reject"
The irony:rofl
Icebear
Sep-22-2010, 03:48 AM
Good on Ya, Jerry. :thumb
jandrewnelson
Oct-09-2010, 02:55 AM
:wow:eek1:yikes:eek1 :bow$250!!! Did he buy the print, or just the file? How big was the image when he seen it? What do you think he seen in it for him to want to spend $250 on it?
The irony:rofl
The finished image was 8x10. It was bought by the city to use in regional marketing (magazines, newspapers, etc).
Thanks again everyone for the help!
Jerry
The finished image was 8x10. It was bought by the city to use in regional marketing (magazines, newspapers, etc).
Thanks again everyone for the help!
Jerry
Not to beat a dead horse, but did you print it as is with the dust spots, and or did you sell them an 8X10 image file as is with the dust spots?
Sam
jandrewnelson
Oct-09-2010, 02:48 PM
:wow:eek1:yikes:eek1 :bow$250!!! Did he buy the print, or just the file? How big was the image when he seen it? What do you think he seen in it for him to want to spend $250 on it?
The irony:rofl
He saw it on his computer monitor. The city bought it for use in marketing and over the past couple weeks since I originally asked this question, it's shown up in 20X30 posters throughout the region as well as a couple regional publications. This same customer referred me to another potential client and the referred client bought about ten shots today. Guess it's true...beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thanks everyone!
Foques
Oct-11-2010, 05:31 AM
wow...
that is exactly why I think I hardly will become a successful photographer..
D'Buggs
Oct-12-2010, 10:57 PM
The value of a product is in it's purpose and FINDING where that purpose is.
Up where I live, I take snow and ice for granted... Not so in Arizona and they pay PLENTY for it.
I've posted up some pretty shabby *looking* stuff on here [Dgrin] before, that in a weird way, would be some of my greatest success's when measured in the returns that they received - Obviously you found the audience for this. Good on YOU! IMO that's the secret of success and MANY extraordinary shooters are challenged by it.
Cheers!
jandrewnelson
Oct-15-2010, 06:06 PM
The value of a product is in it's purpose and FINDING where that purpose is.
Up where I live, I take snow and ice for granted... Not so in Arizona and they pay PLENTY for it.
I've posted up some pretty shabby *looking* stuff on here [Dgrin] before, that in a weird way, would be some of my greatest success's when measured in the returns that they received - Obviously you found the audience for this. Good on YOU! IMO that's the secret of success and MANY extraordinary shooters are challenged by it.
Cheers!
Thanks for the encouraging words!
D'Buggs
Oct-15-2010, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the encouraging words!
You're welcome.... But WTS, you do see the short-comings in this image, right?
Don't let 'financial gain' cloud your path on improvements - Even the best shooters are bettered. :thumb
And believe me, I ain't one of them...... :rofl
jandrewnelson
Oct-16-2010, 01:46 AM
You're welcome.... But WTS, you do see the short-comings in this image, right?
Don't let 'financial gain' cloud your path on improvements - Even the best shooters are bettered. :thumb
And believe me, I ain't one of them...... :rofl
I see shortcomings in almost all of my photographs. I'm constantly here on dGrin looking for tips and techniques to improve as well as 'haunting' photographers websites.
Blessings
RobSylvan
Oct-16-2010, 04:32 AM
Congrats on the sale! Though too late now, here's what I would have done (though with the original instead of that JPG):
- removed sensor spots
- reduced noise slightly
- straightened slightly
- cropped slightly to remove the bright lights on the edge of the frame
- bumped up fill light
- bumped up vibrance
This introduced a little banding, but this was just a quick tweak to a processed JPG to show the potential.
jandrewnelson
Oct-18-2010, 12:31 PM
Congrats on the sale! Though too late now, here's what I would have done (though with the original instead of that JPG):
- removed sensor spots
- reduced noise slightly
- straightened slightly
- cropped slightly to remove the bright lights on the edge of the frame
- bumped up fill light
- bumped up vibrance
This introduced a little banding, but this was just a quick tweak to a processed JPG to show the potential.
WOW!! Awesome...thanks so much. I'm going to take the image on my 'puter and try to replicate with it what you ahve done! Thanks a million!
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