So how will i know when it is time to put her down

[gus]

My 17" ADI ProVista monitor.... Its 5 & 1/2 years old.

Over the past few days i can see a ...slight almost yellowish style duo-tone creeping over where it should be white.

Is it time ? :dunno :scratch Nothing i can do in the settings ?

Gus

[Andy]

My 17" ADI ProVista monitor.... Its 5 & 1/2 years old.

Over the past few days i can see a ...slight almost yellowish style duo-tone creeping over where it should be white.

Is it time ? :dunno :scratch Nothing i can do in the settings ?

Gus

dell has a super 24" wide display old 'gus :deal

[ian408]

When monitors start to go, it's time to get rid of them.

Ian

[Khaos]

dell has a super 24" wide display old 'gus :deal
Maximum PC gave that monitor a Kick Ass rating in their last issue. Stated it's the best value for the size and quality.:thumb

[gluwater]

Maybe Andy will sell you his 30"?

[DavidTO]

Maybe Andy will sell you his 30"?


Dude, keep up, Andy sold that about 2 weeks after he bought it!

[Andy]

Dude, keep up, Andy sold that about 2 weeks after he bought it!

:nah it was 4 months! and i have the su-weeet 23" apple c.d., :lust

[gluwater]

:doh

I need to start a journal to keep up with that man.

[DavidTO]

:nah it was 4 months! and i have the su-weeet 23" apple c.d., :lust


dog months, maybe.

[Andy]

dog months, maybe.

:nono and i'm gonna prove it!

y'all got me to switch to apple around christmas of 2004, and i bought the 30 incher in early january.

here's where i traded it out for my 23 incher (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=10093&highlight=cinema) at the end of april 2005

:bad

[DavidTO]

:nono and i'm gonna prove it!

y'all got me to switch to apple around christmas of 2004, and i bought the 30 incher in early january.

here's where i traded it out for my 23 incher (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=10093&highlight=cinema) at the end of april 2005

:bad


I stand corrected.

Either way, it's a sickness, though.

So Andy, now that you've been on the Mac platform for 7 or 8 months, any comments? My dad just upgraded from his old Dell to a G5 iMac.

[gus]

dell has a super 24" wide display old 'gus :deal
zats an LCD i bet ??

I dont like them as they show banding or colour separation some may call it. Im not good enough at editing with them.

I will stick to CRT for a while....speaking of which i just did a local search & mate tell you what... they are getting a bit thin on the shelves...every one buys LCD now.:huh

Gus

[marlof]

I dont like them as they show banding or colour separation some may call it.
You might feel different if you hook up a good LCD screen to your system. There's a reason for instance Apple sells LCDs even to high end graphics users. Their screens are fabulous. Whenever I'll have to replace my current (17" Acer TFT widescreen), I'll make sure to look at those. Even when it will be hooked up to a WinBox. :)

[gus]

You might feel different if you hook up a good LCD screen to your system. There's a reason for instance Apple sells LCDs even to high end graphics users. Their screens are fabulous. Whenever I'll have to replace my current (17" Acer TFT widescreen), I'll make sure to look at those. Even when it will be hooked up to a WinBox. :)Thanks marlof..about the only one that i have seen here is Qosimo but it was in a laptop & worth about $6K.

Certainly though if i could afford mac then i would have mac...no worries there.

[marlof]

Certainly though if i could afford mac then i would have mac...no worries there.
You need a screen, mate, not a mac. Their cinema displays are actually not *that* expensive (although I'm well aware that's a relative term). You can get the 20" widescreen (DVI connector) for AUS $ 1249 according to the Apple online store. You can get a good quality LCD for less than that, but I'm just very impressed with the quality of the Apple screens.

[DavidTO]

Thanks marlof..about the only one that i have seen here is Qosimo but it was in a laptop & worth about $6K.

Certainly though if i could afford mac then i would have mac...no worries there.

Gus, the graphics artists at work each just got the 30" display to check their render outputs, which they can do at a resolution that equates to checking it on film, I guess. Anyway, you're certainly not gonna get the 30" (too big even for Andy!), but it speaks to the quality of the LCD displays. Just an FYI.

[Andy]

So Andy, now that you've been on the Mac platform for 7 or 8 months, any comments?

i totally dig it :deal it's so freakin' easy to use and admin etc i love it. totaly joy to use.

[gtc]

get an LG flatron either 17 or 19 inch-they are very good and will be the last of the CRT monitors-you can get them cheaply in Aus too

[gus]

I think the LG is the way i will go gtc.

Gus

[Sam]

Gus,


You could take a look at Lacie.
LaCie - External Storage Hard Drives, CD-RW Drives, DVD-RW Drives, Tape, Monit (http://www.lacie.com/)

Sam

[gus]

Gus,


You could take a look at Lacie.
LaCie - External Storage Hard Drives, CD-RW Drives, DVD-RW Drives, Tape, Monit (http://www.lacie.com/)

Sam
Sam im looking for a monitor ...all i can see there is storage :scratch

Gus

[DavidTO]

Sam im looking for a monitor ...all i can see there is storage :scratch

Gus


For some reason they call it
Color (http://www.lacie.com/products/family.htm?id=10010)

[gus]

Ahhh ...got it !

[gtc]

I think the LG is the way i will go gtc.

Gus
good man-we will never be able to keep up with rich americans and their blasted exchange rate- LG CRT Flatron-its almost a collectors item as I think that the LCD/TFT's will be soon all there is to buy-some smart person will buy them all up and in ten years sell them to us at twice the price-they will develop a cachet similar to valve amps-even though there will be little qualitative difference between CRT and LCD/TFT- in the future people will swear that there is a difference-retro fashion will elevate them.all these LCD buying squillionaires will be shelling out big bickie$ in the future for pristine CRT and you and I will chuckle-if our screens last that long!
s
MARK MY WORDS!

[gus]

I went & looked at monitors today gtc...mate seriously i looked at a new Benq 20" LCD today & WOW !!! I had a DVD of some of my photos on it & it just blew me away how good it is.

Go & check one out.

$1100 0z clams though :cry

Gus

[BigAl]

I think the LG is the way i will go gtc.

Gus Gus, I've had the 17" Flatron (795 I think) for about 5 yrs and it still beats most other monitors I've looked at.

regards
alan

[gtc]

they look pretty good but you should compare them against a CRT Flatron rather than against your tired old dog of a screen...i had a look at one last night and yes-nice big screen size and gee it sure looked groovy but I didn't see any greater resolution than my flatron which cane at less than a quarter the price.

it would make my flat look groovier but then I would walk into the room and spoil that impression...

if only they could guarantee that it would improve my sex life maybe I would buy one!

monitors are beginning to become like high end hi-fi gear(you know.. platinum connectors and speaker coils from the 5th dimension etc)

people are spending a motza on supposed differences that they can't even detect

they like to think they can, but put them in a double blind test and they can't tell the difference-this is also,in my mind anyway,the way that monitors have gone-

if i had the money to spend i would get the flatron(i did anyway) and spend the balance on some more camera gear,which I did..

the lcd/tft's price will drop through the floor over the next couple of years-

the r&d costs have already been recovered and the manafacturing costs are tiny in comparison with CRT.

wait a few years and they will drop out of cornflakes packets,just as the CRT monitors are doing now.

they reached their zenith in quality but are being run out at ridiculous prices because they don't physically look as groovy,rather than any serious or detectable image quality advantage.

with the $750 extra that you would have I could think of some very nice lenses and other goodies-maybe a photo holiday to Alice Springs or something....now that would be groovy.

I went & looked at monitors today gtc...mate seriously i looked at a new Benq 20" LCD today & WOW !!! I had a DVD of some of my photos on it & it just blew me away how good it is.

Go & check one out.

$1100 0z clams though :cry

Gus

[gus]

Thanks for your effort there gtc...i do want to go & photograph the boat race in the tod river.

So just for my info guys...are these new centrino laptops with 1680 x 1050 adequate for photo editing ?

[gus]

I just cant stop staring at this...... (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MONSTER-DELL-INPIRON-9300-2-13GHz-CENTRINO-2GB-RAM-17_W0QQitemZ5606424618QQcategoryZ3713QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

[DavidTO]

I just cant stop staring at this...... (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MONSTER-DELL-INPIRON-9300-2-13GHz-CENTRINO-2GB-RAM-17_W0QQitemZ5606424618QQcategoryZ3713QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

Do you need a laptop? Seems to me that a decent display and some new glass would serve you better.

[gus]

Do you need a laptop? Seems to me that a decent display and some new glass would serve you better.
No mate...its about looking at expensive toys.

[DavidTO]

No mate...its about looking at expensive toys.


That I understand.

[gus]

That I understand.Are these laptops upgradable in processor etc ? I know that the new ones have room for up to 2 gig ram.

I just drop a new MB/processor/ram in my desk top every year or so for $300. I assume that with laptops its different ?

[ChrisJ]

You're stuck with the processor... Dell has a couple of models that now allow Graphics card updates (designed for gamers, really). Hard disk are fairly easy to replace, too.

[gus]

You're stuck with the processor... Dell has a couple of models that now allow Graphics card updates (designed for gamers, really). Hard disk are fairly easy to replace, too.Tks 95Mcaj...i thought as much. Im really making sure i cover all avail options before i work out what im going to do.

Guswife has mentioned a few days ago that if she bought me a wireless laptop..she would get me away from this desk.

[ChrisJ]

Guswife has mentioned a few days ago that if she bought me a wireless laptop..she would get me away from this desk. It is really nice... right now I'm sitting out on my back porch. My laptop (IBM T41p) is over a year old, and I still haven't felt the slightest urge for an upgrade. Runs CS2 just fine (though not mind-splittingly fast).

[gtc]

I just cant stop staring at this...... (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MONSTER-DELL-INPIRON-9300-2-13GHz-CENTRINO-2GB-RAM-17_W0QQitemZ5606424618QQcategoryZ3713QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)
oh no gus,you are displaying the early symptoms of gear headedness!

first the lcd monitor now the $5000 laptop-does it make expresso?

don't let it take hold or else there will be no turning back-you will have to take the pledge and thats not nice..

this morning i sketched out a plan for a street photo i hope to take tonight

i then went to the spot I have chosen and took a couple of test shots for framing purposes and will be back there tonight at the magic hour.

hopefully,if it rains, I will have a photo that I can't stop staring at ,which will be a million times better than that laptop ad.

anyone else want some reasons not to become a gear head?

[BigAl]

So just for my info guys...are these new centrino laptops with 1680 x 1050 adequate for photo editing ?
Gus, I'd avoid LCD screens for photo editing. The color gamut just isn't good enough, except maybe on some of the hugely expensive top end goodies.

regards
alan

[gus]

Gus, I'd avoid LCD screens for photo editing. The color gamut just isn't good enough, except maybe on some of the hugely expensive top end goodies.

regards
alan
Thats just it Al...I last checked them out 6 months back & vowed never to own one but now they are a lot better than my 17".

[gtc]

Thats just it Al...I last checked them out 6 months back & vowed never to own one but now they are a lot better than my 17".
but not better than an LG flatron-it sounds as if everything is better than your 17 inch

[luckyrwe]

I just splurged for 2GB of ram for my lappy, 512mb was just not cutting it. TO think that money could have gone towards a lens.... :dunno

[gus]

Just had a look at a Toshiba laptop that had a 2048 x 1536 screen .. 2 gig ram & 256 vid card :huh

What a difference to my old CRT !!!!