dogs vs. cats

[Andy]

let's see your dog, cat, iguana, turtle or other ersatz pet. i'm a dog guy myself, and here is ms. natasha snow, in her fluffy white glory.

shot last weekend with my sony f828. in post: converted to b&w (channel mixer>50/50/0 monochrome) and then levels adjustment, that's it)

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/4684670-L.jpg

so how 'bout it, let's see your personal critters. if you've previously posted, throw 'em up again right here in this thread...

enjoy (pet) photography,

[damonff]

napping

http://www.nomadphotographystudios.com/photos/4631185-L.jpg

[dkapp]

This is my dog Phantom. We took her on a short vacation last weekend to Mendocino, where we all had a blast. There are a lot of great parks, trails and dog friendly places to go.

This was taken on our first night after a short hike. The trail leads back to our cottage. We were watching the sunset on the beach when I turned around and saw the dog posing. I cheated a bit, I used the magic "want a cookie" to get her to tilt her head. :)

http://dkapp.smugmug.com/photos/4810763-L.jpg

[ginger_55]

Skye, my boy by ginger

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/3339769-L.jpg

[SeeMoon]

Skye, my boy by ginger

That is one pretty boy, Ginger! And a great portrait too!!



This was taken on our first night after a short hike. The trail leads back to our cottage. We were watching the sunset on the beach when I turned around and saw the dog posing. I cheated a bit, I used the magic "want a cookie" to get her to tilt her head. :)

It sure worked..very sweet!




Here are our cats, although the first thinks and acts like a dog.. :scratch


http://see-moon.smugmug.com/photos/4841712-L.jpg

http://see-moon.smugmug.com/photos/4841713-L.jpg

[Andy]

do you have external links turned off for this gallery? all we get is an "X"

http://see-moon.smugmug.com/photos/4841713-L.jpg[/QUOTE]

[SavannahMan]

Consider this thread officially hijacked for the next nine photos....

Not the best shot, but it sure captures her mood. Bandit in her Christmas spirit:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845025-M.jpg

Scooby, the family baby:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845020-M.jpg

Having a good stretch in front of the T.V.:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845028-M.jpg

trying to look cute, succeding:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845027-M.jpg

Stalking a fly around the living room:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845026-M.jpg

Kodah, wondering why I keep flashing that thing in his face:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845021-M.jpg

Passed out after an all night bender:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845023-M.jpg

Hair:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845024-M.jpg

Stolen Identity:
http://savannahman.smugmug.com/photos/4845022-M.jpg

Okay, that's all. Everyone may resume posting...

Oh, and Dkapp, I laughed out loud when I saw yours. That is an awesome picture!:rofl

[SavannahMan]

napping

http://www.nomadphotographystudios.com/photos/4631185-L.jpg
I know you know how cute your dog is.....
I'm having mine dyed to look like yours....

[lynnma]

You guys just made my day..!! lovely doggies pictures all. I'll have to go fish one of mine out.
:D

[Steve Lear]

You guys just made my day..!! lovely doggies pictures all. I'll have to go fish one of mine out.
:D

I Agree. what a great bunch of shots!

I had to throw my 2c worth in. This is Pippi the cat.
I Love cats, but I can't eat more than one.

http://skier.smugmug.com/photos/4405255-M.jpg

[gubbs]

http://gubbs.smugmug.com/photos/4695032-M.jpg

[digismile]

I can't resist a dog thread! Buddy is the centre of our universe (whether we want it or not!).

Not a particularily great photo, but I just couldn't resist ...

We wanted Buddy to come in the house a couple of hours ago and like a little kid, he thought he could just stretch the time outside by plopping in the doorway and being "partway in"...

http://digismile.smugmug.com/photos/4862278-M.jpg

[Andy]

This little fella visited the salt water for the first time. There was kelp to drag around and everyone stopped to say hello. Yup. It was a great day. Cold now, and tired.

splendid ...lovely dog and scene

[lynnma]

I was looking forward to wheeling my broken ankle over to the computer to see what was happening in dgrin world.. I'm never dissapointed and it always makes me smile.. lovely pictures.:D

[Wolf]

May as well go ahead and add my friend. This young lady's name is Kitty, and she's about 9 months old. I rescued her from the streets just after this past Christmas holiday. She was in pretty bad shape with some injuries but, you'd never know it now. She has come a long way.

[Sam]

This little fella visited the salt water for the first time. There was kelp to drag around and everyone stopped to say hello. Yup. It was a great day. Cold now, and tired.
Both the dog and the cat photos are great! I'm cold just looking at the puppy. I posted it before, but here's my doggy photo. (Again) :D

[wxwax]

Molsondog, great image on the beach. Nice color contrast and setting. Sam, I like what you did with that shot, it looks cool.

[rutt]

May as well go ahead and add my friend. This young lady's name is Kitty, and she's about 9 months old. I rescued her from the streets just after this past Christmas holiday. She was in pretty bad shape with some injuries but, you'd never know it now. She has come a long way. I love this cat picture. The B+W works and looks like a Lieca picture or something. It leaves a mystery; what color is the cat? Could be orange, gray, just about any color but black or white.

We have two shelter cats. They are both about 8 years old and are both totally crazy. I think it's a little like people who have very difficult childhoods. I suppose the forms of insanity our cats have isn't as bad as it would be in a person or even a dog. I've posted their pictures before, but I'll try to get some fresh shots and tell their stories.

[gus]

Splodge the devon rex

[Wolf]

I love this cat picture. The B+W works and looks like a Lieca picture or something. It leaves a mystery; what color is the cat? Could be orange, gray, just about any color but black or white.

We have two shelter cats. They are both about 8 years old and are both totally crazy. I think it's a little like people who have very difficult childhoods. I suppose the forms of insanity our cats have isn't as bad as it would be in a person or even a dog. I've posted their pictures before, but I'll try to get some fresh shots and tell their stories.
Thanks, as a matter of fact, I am getting ready to pick up my new adoptee today. Another baby kitty. Now, what to name her... Will post a shot as soon as she is comfortable!

[gubbs]

our friends new addition to the family....
Amy
http://Gubbs.smugmug.com/photos/4994598-M.jpg


http://Gubbs.smugmug.com/photos/4994602-M.jpg

[Wolf]

What a face! Nice shot!

[Andy]

scooby dooooooooooo

[wxwax]

Splodge the devon rex
Like an Egyptian god or something.

[lynnma]

Both the dog and the cat photos are great! I'm cold just looking at the puppy. I posted it before, but here's my doggy photo. (Again) :DOh Sam.. what a face!!!:D

[snapapple]

Oh this is fun! I love dogs. Cats too. I used to have cats, but I can't have them where I live. The coyotes would eat them. I have two dogs. Here's a couple of shots I took on July 4th last year.
Red, decked out for the Fourth of July
http://snapapple.smugmug.com/photos/1010787-M-1.jpg

Roxy, dressed fancy for the Fourth
http://snapapple.smugmug.com/photos/1078936-M-1.jpg

[SeeMoon]

Another one;

http://see-moon.smugmug.com/photos/5047331-M.jpg

[gus]

Like an Egyptian god or something.I dunno :dunno ...............but it cost about the same.

[rutt]

He was hyperaware of Vickie.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/5110631-L.jpg

[rutt]

You can see what she's thinking. Would you oblige?

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/5134613-L.jpg

[rutt]

I had to sit on the sidewalk to get this one.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/5151658-L.jpg

What big ears you have. Do you think the dog knows that he is a fashion accessary? Or maybe the woman is the fashin accessary?

[AltPro]

The boys and I have been rescuing the cats and kittens on another old farmstead that is to be burned within the very near future. So far, the boys and I have "captured" 7 adult cats and 10 kittens, with (7 adults & 4 kittens to go)... Two of the kittens, Paris & Brit, had barely openned their eyes when we retrieved them, and we have been bottle feeding them for the past 16 days. Another kitten (tortie) was only about 6 weeks old and has just been placed in a "new" home. We have 7 more kittens to place... IF anyone's interested?!
ginette
"Dinah" placed 13 June 2004
http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com/photos/4895168-L.jpg

"Paris" Adopted by rescues children....
http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com/photos/4894904-L.jpg

"Paris"
http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com/photos/4893640-L.jpg

[SeeMoon]

Ohoh..my boyfriend feels very lucky living so far away from you.. If I'd have my way this place would be more like a zoo and these would've been more than welcome! I hope you'll find somebody soon..

[AltPro]

Ohoh..my boyfriend feels very lucky living so far away from you.. If I'd have my way this place would be more like a zoo and these would've been more than welcome! I hope you'll find somebody soon..
Simone...
Be careful what you say... I might be willing to meet you half way in order to give some of these little guys a good home!!!

ginette-louise

[Shakey]

Ok this is my first shot with my 300D so ... cut me some slack since I ws so excited I just ran out took a pic, installed software and uploaded to smugmug.
When my wife finds out about this camera I might be a dead man but I will be a happy dead man.


http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/5176269-M.jpg


Like I said just a snap shot but boy am I impressed with the background blur(unattainable for the most part on my A80)

Lens used was my EF 35-105 from my Rebel II slr

[spockling]

This was taking the other day and just played around with it in PS.http://members.shaw.ca/betlin/images/Ulookinatme.jpg

[Wolf]

Nice face! Very cute pooch! Welcome to dgrin!

[spockling]

Nice face! Very cute pooch! Welcome to dgrin!
Thanks...looking forward to Learning a lot from Y'all:D

[ginger_55]

Now I just have to find one, be right back.............

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/5073032-M.jpg

That is one of my daughter's vicious pugs, and The White Dog. I love that white dog, the pug's name is Wilson. Maybe I should explain, looking at the dullness of what could be great photo, this has not been photoshopped at all.
Just put on Smugmug, so as not to lose it.

g

[AltPro]

Here is a photo of LuC holding one of the 7 Rescued Kittens (ready for adoption) that we are caring for here in our home. If anyone is interested in a kitten, you can view the rest of them on my website at:
through the lens, ltd. Featured Gallery. (http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com)

ginette
http://ThroughTheLensLtd.smugmug.com/photos/5209006-L.jpg

[wxwax]

Great shot of the young feller. This one's adorable too.

http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com/photos/5209125-L.jpg

[Andy]

Here is a photo of LuC holding one of the 7 Rescued Kittens (ready for adoption) that we are caring for here in our home. If anyone is interested in a kitten, you can view the rest of them on my website at:
through the lens, ltd. Featured Gallery. (http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com)

ginette
http://ThroughTheLensLtd.smugmug.com/photos/5209006-S.jpg


whoa, this is really really good!

[ian408]

This little fella visited the salt water for the first time. There was kelp to drag around and everyone stopped to say hello. Yup. It was a great day. Cold now, and tired.

What a great picture.

Ian

[AltPro]

Great shot of the young feller. This one's adorable too.

http://throughthelensltd.smugmug.com/photos/5209125-L.jpg
Thanks Sid... glad you liked them... Tough getting photos of kittens that just a short time ago, had never been handled by humans. As you can see, they are already really quite friendly, and docile...
But the big question now is: Do you want a cute and adorable, ready to be loved, not afraid of dogs, kitten?...
What I really need is a way to get some of these photos sen by prospective adoptees!


ginette

[AltPro]

whoa, this is really really good!
Thank you Andy... That is flattering... But "What is it that you like about the photograph?" What could I still do to improve it. Is there something that feels more right about it? Something missing? Whould you have done something different? What about the tonal range? Warmth of color? Do they seem right? Lighting... I guess I need you to be concise, and brutal if necessary. I'm sure there must be some room for improvement...

I'd really appreciate your hard evaluation, if you have the time, and don't mind.

I need to get these right... I hope to open the shop in October or so.

Thanks again, for everything.
ginette

[digismile]

Ever since Buddy was a puppy, he has hated water. Somehow he skipped the whole "water gene". More like a cat ... wouldn't be caught DEAD near water.

Well today he showed us old dogs do learn new tricks! (he's 10).

Today was a beautiful sunny day, so we took a long walk at a local off leash area and walked down to the river. This wasn't anything new, we've been here before. Maybe it was the heat, who knows, but Buddy just ran right in to the water like he had been doing it all his life!


http://digismile.smugmug.com/photos/5295123-L.jpg


Does this look like a dog who hates water? I don't think so!

http://digismile.smugmug.com/photos/5295125-L.jpg

Drying off in the grass before we get back into the car ...

http://digismile.smugmug.com/photos/5294224-L.jpg


So who took my dog? My dog hates the water :D

[ginger_55]

So who took my dog? My dog hates the water :D[/QUOTE]
__________________

That is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe you somehow got the wrong dog.
Is he acting normally otherwise?? LOL. Ginger
Great pictures, whoever the dog is.

[cmr164]

Had to up the iso to 800 to get 1/60th shutter speed on this shot.

I met 'Merlin' yesterday at a fundraiser for John Kerry's presidential campaign. He is 16 years old and pretty quiet. The shot was difficult because of the large difference in the lit lighter body and the unlit dark face.

http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cmr_06_cs.jpg (http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cmr_06_c.jpg)

[wxwax]

What I really need is a way to get some of these photos sen by prospective adoptees!
ginette

Ay, the's the hard part about taking in the kittens... finding good homes for them.

I shouldn't speak for Andy... but I will! I think the reason the shot with your son works so well is because it captures a wonderful, soft and loving expression in his eyes and smile... which pairs nicely with the kitten. And the composition works too.

[mercphoto]

This is one of my sister's cats, Patches. I was really pleased with how this one turned out.

[surly]

fire away
i can take it

[BylLuvaul]

my dog daisy http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9660/smalldaisy.jpg

[cmr164]

One of two neighborhood/communal cats.

http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/catseyes.jpg

[doyle]

Lucy

[doyle]

the nose knows

[Andy]

I had to sit on the sidewalk to get this one.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/5151658-S.jpg

What big ears you have. Do you think the dog knows that he is a fashion accessary? Or maybe the woman is the fashin accessary?

this one is really good. :thumb

[ginger_55]

Rutt, that is your photo of the Westie..............can you get movement from it?
I agree that it is really good. Was thinking it was just because of the breed, cute breed, and I have learned that feet and small dogs are good, but even the curve of the sidewalk works well. Just a good photo, I will agree.

Also, since I just saw it, I like the photo of Lucy. A collie, I think.

ginger

I may be wrong on who owns dogs and who comments, checking on that gets to be "work" after a while. Whoever takes the shots, they are good.

[ginger_55]

And that is unusual??? I often sit on the sidewalk, or ground, where ever to get my dog's pictures. In fact, it is amazing what one can see just sitting on the sidewalk. I get tired, sit down, see all sorts of good stuff to take pictures of.

If I want action shots or whatever from my dogs, in my postage stamp sized yard, I go outside, sit on the walk and wait.

I am sitting on the sidewalk here. I don't know where some of my other dog photos are from that yard, I am spoiled by using smugmug to put them here, but I sat on the sidewalk, I do that to show my photographer husband how I do it.
He sat in the chair, and he became interesting to me. The dogs were running around the bushes, so you can definitely see a dog running on the right and my husband is posing on the left. I put it into black and white just for the heck of it.

My favorite way to take pictures is to just wait. So, especially with a dog, I sit on the ground and wait, makes them comfortable. They become bored after awhile and go on about their business. I am always surprised at people who don't "wait" on just about everything, kids, dogs, people..........well, maybe it is because I like candids. Here is a portrait candid.

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/4463145-M.jpg

That is so "us". g
There are so few poses I will take a picture of, I think the challenge for him is to use a pose from his work situation that I will "shoot".

[cmr164]

This wouldn't work with my bike but luckily there is a cruiser here too.

http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cat_mc0307_c.jpg

[lynnma]

Diggn for Guey Ducks...

[BylLuvaul]

Heres another picture of my dog daisy .

[Himalayan]

My Himalayan Cat

[DavidTO]

My Himalayan Cat

Beautiful shot.

[lynnma]

My Himalayan CatWhat a lovely cat and a lovely shot.. beautiful:rofl

[AltPro]

My Himalayan Cat
Simply Stunning.

ginette

[wmsnyder]

Simon showing his appreciation for being photographed.

[ginger_55]

Last night, I went outside to take something of the quality of light.
About the only way this would be Quality of Light would be to stretch the
meaning way out and somehow compare my dog with the light of my life, or something. He is wonderful, he is one of the loves of my life, and I guess it
was meant to be that I get a portrait of him. I am so discouraged. I have seen no light anywhere. I know I have not moved from here, but on TV, the news, it is all just pictures, and in the newspaper, etc............ and, well, here is not the quality of light, he is the quality of my life, he and my other two dogs.

Skyeboy

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/5643925-L.jpg

[wxwax]

Ginger, you torture yourself unnecessarily. I think that shot qualifies for quality of light. The dog has a wonderful, soft golden light on it. The light adds something to the shot. Dunno about anyone else, but for me, a good part of why that shot works is because of the quality of the light.

[SeeMoon]

Lets keep this thread going! I love all those animal shots..

Here's another one of Beertje (No not beer, but bear in Dutch..) :D

http://see-moon.smugmug.com/photos/5738528-L.jpg

[Stan]

Stan, the real one, who I name myself after on forums :thumb

[maczippy]

Here's my hero - Jack...

http://www.whimwham.com/dgrin/jack_dgrin.jpg

Andrew :)

[lynnma]

Here's my hero - Jack...



Andrew :)Oh Mac.. he's beautiful and what a capture.. he was posing was'nt he...:D

[AltPro]

Here's my hero - Jack...
http://www.whimwham.com/dgrin/jack_dgrin.jpg
Andrew :)
Andrew:
"jack" is a beautiful dog... Love the catch lights in his eyes, the open friendly mouth... almost a grin, and his overall "hey there, how are ya'?" expression.
Beautifully done!
ginette

[ginger_55]

(I like Jack, too. They are similar in the head, and I love the name Jack.)
But this is my family here

This is my favorite picture, ever, of me and my Yorkshire Terrier, Katie, it was a couple of years ago. I actually took it late at night. It is a small insignificant picture, but I love it.

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/5841065-M.jpg


Below this is a picture I love of my Skye, my heart dog, the male Corgi.
It is supposed to be a picture of my daughter's new floor and rug, but it sure looked good with the dogs on it.

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/5841067-M.jpg

No tail, legs in the flying squirrel position, I love it!


This is in May. We had four dogs. I rehomed one, Summer. She is very happy as an only dog. She is the Corgi on the right. I felt terrible about rehoming her, but I was not giving her the attention she craved. This is all of us, Merry Chapel, Katie, Skye and Summer, and me, all together in February.
It was quite handful, but it was fun in its own way, having that many housedogs, a small townhouse, with only two hands myself.........

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/3306816-M.jpg

That is it for tonight. Funny, I have not been taking as many pictures of my dogs lately. I did take one at the national park the other day, on a light finding expedition. Dogs can be on the grounds, but not inside the house. My husband rocked on the porch with the dogs who were on a leash. I turned around, and there was Skye at the door window.

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/5841471-M.jpg

ginger

[lynnma]

(I like Jack, too. They are similar in the head, and I love the name Jack.)
But this is my family here

This is my favorite picture, ever, of me and my Yorkshire Terrier, Katie, it was a couple of years ago. I actually took it late at night. It is a small insignificant picture, but I love it.




Below this is a picture I love of my Skye, my heart dog, the male Corgi.
It is supposed to be a picture of my daughter's new floor and rug, but it sure looked good with the dogs on it.



No tail, legs in the flying squirrel position, I love it!


This is in May. We had four dogs. I rehomed one, Summer. She is very happy as an only dog. She is the Corgi on the right. I felt terrible about rehoming her, but I was not giving her the attention she craved. This is all of us, Merry Chapel, Katie, Skye and Summer, and me, all together in February.
It was quite handful, but it was fun in its own way, having that many housedogs, a small townhouse, with only two hands myself.........



That is it for tonight. Funny, I have not been taking as many pictures of my dogs lately. I did take one at the national park the other day, on a light finding expedition. Dogs can be on the grounds, but not inside the house. My husband rocked on the porch with the dogs who were on a leash. I turned around, and there was Skye at the door window.



gingerGinger I love your dog pictures, specially the last two.. they made me smile :D

[snapapple]

It's hard to catch her with a "smile" or even a pleasant expression. She always looks so somber. She really smiles when I say "Let's go for a walk." and head up the hill. But, I havn't been able to climb the hill for a month.

http://snapapple.smugmug.com/photos/5931661-L.jpg

[DoctorIt]

think i've posted this one before, but its one of my fav's and so appropriate for this thread.

http://doctorit.smugmug.com/photos/2088847-M.jpg

[damonff]

Enzo and Yogi

http://nomadphotography.smugmug.com/photos/5946531-L.jpg

[FreeUps]

Kane - my little white eyed wonder. (half lab, half husky)

http://img49.exs.cx/img49/7153/Kane1sized1.jpg

I'll post my other little buddy later.

[FreeUps]

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/5841471-S.jpg


Ginger I love it!

[snapapple]

think i've posted this one before, but its one of my fav's and so appropriate for this thread.

http://doctorit.smugmug.com/photos/2088847-S.jpg

Wow, what a tongue! I wouldn't want him to lick my face. Great shot! :clap

[Himalayan]

Here's my hero - Jack...

http://www.whimwham.com/dgrin/jack_dgrin.jpg

Andrew :)
Very nice Dog Protrait! Love it!

[Himalayan]

Simon showing his appreciation for being photographed.
Cool pic!

[FreeUps]

Here kitty kitty kitty -

I had already snuck through one fence to get close enough, but still had to shoot through another chain-link; thats why your getting that white blotch on the mid-right. Whattta shame. Anyone think its fixable? I'm gonna try a few right things now. Seems like its going to be some tough patchwork.
http://www.filenote.com/users/uploads/469782807.jpg

[FreeUps]

Well that actually wasnt too bad. I lost the blue eye but at least i got some more sharpness on that right side.

Tiger again-

http://www.filenote.com/redir/15080.jpg
And it looks like i missed a nice patch right under his chin. Im blind :O

[Stan]

I sat in an old beat up Land Rover for 3 hours in the rain, waiting for this leopard to get out of the tree, I only had a 55-200 lens at the time

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853319-L.jpg

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853322-M.jpg

Rectified that now with a 100-400 IS incase I go back to Sri Lanka

[snapapple]

I sat in an old beat up Land Rover for 3 hours in the rain, waiting for this leopard to get out of the tree, I only had a 55-200 lens at the time

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853319-S.jpg

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853322-S.jpg

Rectified that now with a 100-400 IS incase I go back to Sri Lanka

Beautiful, Stan! I admire your patience. Most of the time, when I'm on a trip, I am always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or, time is so limited that nothing good happens while I'm there.

[Stan]

Thank you Snapple, they are appalling shots, it makes you realize just how good wildlife photographers really are, given the time they have to take the shot before it is gone.

This one I had to post back to Sri Lanka for the driver, the guide, the hotel manager etc

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853318-L.jpg

And this is my favourite

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853323-L.jpg

[snapapple]

Thank you Snapple, they are appalling shots, it makes you realize just how good wildlife photographers really are, given the time they have to take the shot before it is gone.

And this is my favourite

http://stan.smugmug.com/photos/3853323-L.jpg

:rofl
Perfect example

[Stan]

:rofl
Perfect example

He is in there somewhere, honest, see if you can spot him :D

[snapapple]

He is in there somewhere, honest, see if you can spot him :D

Yes, I see bits and pieces of him. But, it's really not his best side. Hehehehe :rofl