Birdacious Curves Redo

[ginger_55]

Almost ready, I started from the beginning and redid these, trying to make them technically as good as I could, etc. This one just has my usual white line around it. The other one has "frame" around it. What do you all think?

Thanks, ginger
http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/29252596-L.jpg


http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/29252617-L.jpg


Please comment, here? I will take a second look, too. I like frames, but I have learned that a lot of people here do not. So, sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

ginger

[wholenewlight]

I love your bird shots, Ginger! I wonder if you know some of them on a first name basis :):

I'm not a frame guy, I like the simple white line better.

[Blue Snapshots]

Almost ready, I started from the beginning and redid these, trying to make them technically as good as I could, etc. This one just has my usual white line around it. The other one has "frame" around it. What do you all think?

Please comment, here? I will take a second look, too. I like frames, but I have learned that a lot of people here do not. So, sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

gingerHmmmm..... I just noticed that most don't have them. I like them and I like your version with it. Being very new... is there some unspoken "rule" that frowns on frames. Jus' askin?

Thanks
Dan

[wholenewlight]

is there some unspoken "rule" that frowns on frames.
Dan
Nah, no rules here.

For me, it's an extra step to add a border or frame. I guess I'm just lazy. :scratch

[Flyinggina]

I like frames sometimes, but in this case I like the simple white line best. :clap Let's me concentrate on those curves! :rofl Virginia

[ginger_55]

Thanks, Virginia, I agree, having looked at it a bit. I couldn't figure out why I didn't like the frame as well, until you told me.

Dan, some people are like purists. They say that frames take up the space that should be used by the photograph, that we get so much space and every last pixel should be the photograph.

The other thing they say is that a frame can, not does, but can imply a weak photo. That frames are used to prop up a weak photograph. I actually had that work for me once. I do think presentation should work for me. In this case, I agree with Virginia..........the presentation should be in the curves. This photo kind of already has a frame in the folliage, that would be a point too, in my mind.

I have had photos that I felt were going to fall out of themselves without some kind of skin to hold them together. Sometimes even more skin can be used to bring out things like certain colors. Other people, well, if the body needs skin, I guess it is not a good body? (that is an analogy, or whatever those things are called)

ginger
(I have compromised by the simple white line for quite awhile now. But not always.)

[Blue Snapshots]

Dan, some people are like purists. They say that frames take up the space that should be used by the photograph, that we get so much space and every last pixel should be the photograph.

The other thing they say is that a frame can, not does, but can imply a weak photo. That frames are used to prop up a weak photograph. I actually had that work for me once. I do think presentation should work for me. In this case, I agree with Virginia..........the presentation should be in the curves. This photo kind of already has a frame in the folliage, that would be a point too, in my mind.

I have had photos that I felt were going to fall out of themselves without some kind of skin to hold them together. Sometimes even more skin can be used to bring out things like certain colors. Other people, well, if the body needs skin, I guess it is not a good body? (that is an analogy, or whatever those things are called)

ginger
(I have compromised by the simple white line for quite awhile now. But not always.)I think I understand.
:scratch

I sounds as if this has been discussed at length. So.... frames, borders, mats, "signatures" are considered by some to be a way of pseudo enhancing a shot? I don't agree, but if I enter another challenge (and I'm sure I will) I'll consider going naked. I also don't think that a shot at say.... 700 that is bad/good will look any more bad/good at 800. But that's just me.
:dunno

Thanks for explaining it all. Appreciate it.
:wave

[Angelo]

Wow Ginger, very nice capture. :thumb

I like frames but in this case I think yours is a bit busy and considering the tight crop it becomes a distraction. So I vote for the simplicity of #1.