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LiveAwake
Aug-23-2009, 03:43 PM
I'm having trouble with the previews in Bridge CS4 appearing blurry, when in fact the shot is crisp (as demonstrated when I either use the little zoom tool or open it in Photoshop etc.

I'm working with RAW images, have my settings for previews set to "always high quality" and have even checked the "generate 100% previews" but to no avail.

Is this an issue of scaling? I know that sometimes whatever algorithm is used to scale a picture down to "screen size" can affect sharpness, especially if you're viewing at a strange magnification (ie 27.6% or whatever would make it "full-screen.") If that's the problem, is there a way to force it to scale down to the nearest size that will look sharp? (whether that's 25% or 33% or whatever works best with Adobe's particular algorithm).

Or, is it something else completely?
Anyone else have this issue?

Richard
Aug-24-2009, 12:02 AM
I'm having trouble with the previews in Bridge CS4 appearing blurry, when in fact the shot is crisp (as demonstrated when I either use the little zoom tool or open it in Photoshop etc.

I'm working with RAW images, have my settings for previews set to "always high quality" and have even checked the "generate 100% previews" but to no avail.

Is this an issue of scaling? I know that sometimes whatever algorithm is used to scale a picture down to "screen size" can affect sharpness, especially if you're viewing at a strange magnification (ie 27.6% or whatever would make it "full-screen.") If that's the problem, is there a way to force it to scale down to the nearest size that will look sharp? (whether that's 25% or 33% or whatever works best with Adobe's particular algorithm).

Or, is it something else completely?
Anyone else have this issue?

Does this happen all the time with all images? I have seen this from time to time with a few images in Bridge/CS3. I have never been able to determine the cause, but clearing the cache and regenerating the previews seems to fix it. I generally do not use high quality previews. Sorry, but I don't know of a way to force a particular scale, though I doubt that is the problem since I typically see all kinds of weird magnification factors without fuzziness. :scratch

LiveAwake
Aug-24-2009, 10:31 PM
Does this happen all the time with all images? I have seen this from time to time with a few images in Bridge/CS3. I have never been able to determine the cause, but clearing the cache and regenerating the previews seems to fix it. I generally do not use high quality previews. Sorry, but I don't know of a way to force a particular scale, though I doubt that is the problem since I typically see all kinds of weird magnification factors without fuzziness. :scratch It doesn't seem to be ALL images . . . if things are large enough in the picture they look ok, but small stuff is almost completely lost. Here is a comparison of a small crop from the same picture. Hopefully it will show up, the one on the right is from Bridge, the one on the left is from Photoshop. (I tried to make them about the same size, but since bridge doesn't tell you your magnification, it might not be perfect.)
http://www.metamorphotography.com/photos/629627487_bUFYp-O.jpg
If for some reason you can't see the image, the direct link is http://www.metamorphotography.com/photos/629627487_bUFYp-O.jpg
And just in case, that is right after purging the cache in Bridge. I have no idea what's going on here, and it's very annoying - it makes me think I missed the focus on perfectly good shots!:wxwax

LiveAwake
Aug-25-2009, 10:47 PM
Here's another sample . . . this one's a bit more subtle, but it's pictures like this where it really matters. If anyone can help me with this, I would REALLY appreciate it. It's a pain in the ass to have to look at every picture in photoshop just to know whether or not it's in focus.

http://metamorphotography.smugmug.com/photos/630642235_97FT2-O.jpg

pathfinder
Aug-26-2009, 11:15 AM
Adobe Bridge > Preferences > Cache> Purge the Cache

Somehow, you are not getting your thumbnails updated I suspect.

If you are in Bridge, you do not need to open images in Photoshop; type ctrl-J and open them in ACR. ctrl-Z to enlarge the images as large as needed to verify focus ( 100% 200% 400% ), and then Cancel. Faster and easier than Photoshop to check focus.

You may need to use higher quality thumbnails, and the better your thumbnails you want, the longer they take to create, thus another source of delay when working.....

Try checking focus in ACR, it is almost instantaneous on my machine.

LiveAwake
Aug-28-2009, 06:37 PM
Well, I have definitely purged the cache more than once, with no change. I'm sure it purged, because it then spends time re-creating the thumbnails . . . but anyway, it's not the thumbnail that is out of focus. It is the "preview." Is there a separate cache that I need to purge for that, or is it the same one?

Opening a file in ACR forces photoshop to open, and even if it didn't, I'm feeling a little frustrated that Bridge's preview function doesn't do its job. The whole point of bridge is to preview your pictures, go through and select which ones need to be edited or deleted. It adds a lot of extra mumbo to my workflow if I have to open each file in ACR/Photoshop/Whatever just to see if it's infocus. :cry

Has anyone else run into this issue, or am I the only one who gets blurry previews in Bridge? This is really strange . . . .HELP!

pathfinder
Aug-28-2009, 06:56 PM
CTRL-R opens a file in Adobe Camera Raw IN BRIDGE.

Ctrl-O opens a file in Adobe Camera Raw IN PHOTOSHOP.

There is a difference and reason you should care. If you ONLY want to see and image and process it is RAW, but not go on into Photoshop, ctrl-R is what you want. When you are finished, just hit done. You can open a dozen files at once with ctrl-R, after selecting all of them in Bridge, and then process all of them at the same time.

If you want to open a single file, do the Raw processing, and then take the file into Photoshop for further editing, ctrl-O is what you need to key.


Googling "blurry thumbnails in Bridge" led to this link http://forums.adobe.com/thread/463667 which might be of help

LiveAwake
Aug-28-2009, 07:31 PM
CTRL-R opens a file in Adobe Camera Raw IN BRIDGE.

Ctrl-O opens a file in Adobe Camera Raw IN PHOTOSHOP.

There is a difference and reason you should care. If you ONLY want to see and image and process it is RAW, but not go on into Photoshop, ctrl-R is what you want. When you are finished, just hit done. You can open a dozen files at once with ctrl-R, after selecting all of them in Bridge, and then process all of them at the same time.

If you want to open a single file, do the Raw processing, and then take the file into Photoshop for further editing, ctrl-O is what you need to key.


Googling "blurry thumbnails in Bridge" led to this link http://forums.adobe.com/thread/463667 which might be of help
Thank you for that information. I have been perusing the adobe forums as well, and found that several people have been having this problem. A handful of them have been able to solve it, but so far none of their solutions have worked for me.

I'm a little confused about the solution mentioned in the link you sent me. It sounds like he is saying there is a separate cache attached to the file, other than whatever is stored in the actual "cache" folder? How do I find and/or delete that?

LiveAwake
Aug-28-2009, 07:42 PM
Thank you for that information. I have been perusing the adobe forums as well, and found that several people have been having this problem. A handful of them have been able to solve it, but so far none of their solutions have worked for me.

I'm a little confused about the solution mentioned in the link you sent me. It sounds like he is saying there is a separate cache attached to the file, other than whatever is stored in the actual "cache" folder? How do I find and/or delete that?
I think I solved it. Under Preferences > Advanced there is a box that says "generate monitor-size previews." Bingo.

I can't imagine why anyone would want previews that remained blurry instead of fully rendering . . . I guess it's a speed thing, but that seems to have done it. I'm currently waiting for it to finish generating lots of previews. I'll report back if there are further issues.

pathfinder
Aug-28-2009, 10:12 PM
Intereresting - my box for monitor sized previews is NOT checked :dunno

I'm glad you have sorted out your problem!

LiveAwake
Aug-28-2009, 10:28 PM
Intereresting - my box for monitor sized previews is NOT checked :dunno

I'm glad you have sorted out your problem!
Yeah, it's really strange. From what I've found on the Adobe forums, several people have run into this problem, but each one has a different solution. None of their solutions helped me, but this random little box in that particular sub-menu did.

Seems Adobe needs to step back a second and assess whatever they've done with their latest generation of software and see if they couldn't make those updates without messing up the basic functionality. Strange.

Anyway, thanks for your suggestions. I learned something about ACR anyway. :D

MilanS
Nov-07-2009, 10:21 AM
acked

I had the same problem of having blur images in preview panel, and in full screen mode. After Googleing I have found numerous suggestions involving cashe setting, but none of the managed to resolve the problem, out least not for very long. Than I remembered that the new Bridge CS4 is using OpenGL through GPU (Graphic Card). An in there lies the solution:

- Download and install the latest drivers for you graphic card:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Note: I have tried only with nVidia graphic card!

- Go to nVidia Control Panel
And under 3D settings---Manage 3D settings. go to "program settings"
And ad bridge to the programs settings list. You can do this by clicking the "add" button and locate bridge.exe. Usually find in you program files!

I have check some options, and leave the rest as they were by the default. Insted of writing, I'm posting screenshots.
Note: I'm not sure withc option exactly sovled the problem, but here is my configuration that did it for me.


P.S.

BTW, my graphic card is: GeForce 8800 GS!
Hope this helps!
Cheers!

MotorYogurt
Mar-24-2011, 09:32 PM
I think I solved it. Under Preferences > Advanced there is a box that says "generate monitor-size previews." Bingo.

I can't imagine why anyone would want previews that remained blurry instead of fully rendering . . . I guess it's a speed thing, but that seems to have done it. I'm currently waiting for it to finish generating lots of previews. I'll report back if there are further issues.

I just registered on this site simply to say thank you. I had put up with that problem for a long time in bridge, and this fixed it for me. :barb

Now I guess I might as well look around this joint.

LiveAwake
Mar-24-2011, 09:49 PM
I just registered on this site simply to say thank you. I had put up with that problem for a long time in bridge, and this fixed it for me. :barb

Now I guess I might as well look around this joint.
Wahoo! Glad to hear you were able to benefit from all the trouble I went through way back when to figure that out. And welcome to the forums - there's some good stuff here.:cheeburga