shot for advice

[jwear]

Ben gave me a bad time last night [i told him you post a landscape and i will] I was not :huh if i do I way hit the first 20 criticism post :scratch so this is something I like better but can shot again so I can work on it

[Andy]

:wave heya jeff

for this type of shot to work, the in-focus bird needs to be razor sharp - he's not, so the image suffers a bit. i'd also aim for a more substatial diagonal compostion, there's a bit too much empty foreground but not enough to qualify imo as "negative space."

finally - this shot would be ever-so-more appealing if the birds were facing the viewer.

good effort, go and try again :deal

[ginger_55]

I agree with Andy on everything except the bird facing the viewer. They hardly ever do that. And when they do, it is not that pretty. Not a good perspective.

An example of a suspicious paranoid Osprey can be given, might be able to dig up an egret facing me. A crazy pelican could be found also. Any others would fly first. Ducks, I have not experienced that much, but gotta make them interesting from the side, IMO, just my most humble opinion.

I do like the light, that is what I think you were working with, and I like it. Since you can reshoot???? I never can reshoot birds, but since you can, I would go to it, very nice light.

Why do you think the bird was not sharp, just out of curiosity. Your shots usually are sharper.

On the "one shot" rule, does that mean you can not show a reshoot for a week?

ginger

[Andy]

I agree with Andy on everything except the bird facing the viewer. They hardly ever do that. And when they do, it is not that pretty. Not a good perspective.

sure! it's really hard to get face-on bird shots... but when you do, it's more special, eh?


On the "one shot" rule, does that mean you can not show a reshoot for a week?



a reshoot of a critiqued shot may be posted in the same thread...sure ...anytime...

[XO-Studios]

Ben gave me a bad time last night [i told him you post a landscape and i will] I was not :huh if i do I way hit the first 20 criticism post :scratch so this is something I like better but can shot again so I can work on it
I have a hard time getting past the lack of razor sharp focus, but I do like the theme. Rather than more diagonal, I would be tempted to crop closer, a lot closer, just leave enough space to see the lighting. I think the bird would do fine in profile or 3/4, just like you have it.

FWIW,

XO,

[bfjr]

Alllrriiiiggghhhtty Then, you've entered the whipping Post !! :calp
You already know that I know Jack but here goes

Dig the idea 2 shafts of light 2 duckeys using it to guide their way, good eye Jeff.
Andy is correct on sharpness, I would have liked both duckeys to be sharp.
I as well would have croped top and bottom of image, when I scroll my screen to cover either top or bottom, image looks better to me. Maybe give the crop a try and see what you think?

[ginger_55]

sure! it's really hard to get face-on bird shots... but when you do, it's more special, eh?


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Instead of a regal beak, I get a squished up face. I do like them to show attitude, the fact that the bird hates me.

The American eagle et al, they are usually partially side shots, don't really remember.

Could you post what you mean by front on.

I agree that Ben's birds were quite a get flying head on,this am, where ever they are posted, but generally, I like the side, or 3/4 best.

maybe just a preference, and I am just talking, I mean I care, but not that much, just frustrating not to be able to have a discussion on the PC sometimes, so I just stated my preference, but I might be wrong. If I were to get a face on that I really liked, I would be the first to use it.

ginger

[jwear]

I have a hard time getting past the lack of razor sharp focus, but I do like the theme. Rather than more diagonal, I would be tempted to crop closer, a lot closer, just leave enough space to see the lighting. I think the bird would do fine in profile or 3/4, just like you have it.

FWIW,

XO, XO I know and thank you for looking and the comment My eye saw the shot but did not do enough to do it better .shot with my 300 but when i opened last night .I wished i had do more .I may get Ben to help with ps and try the crop :thumb thanks

[jwear]

:wave heya jeff

for this type of shot to work, the in-focus bird needs to be razor sharp - he's not, so the image suffers a bit. i'd also aim for a more substatial diagonal compostion, there's a bit too much empty foreground but not enough to qualify imo as "negative space."

finally - this shot would be ever-so-more appealing if the birds were facing the viewer.

good effort, go and try again :deal Thanks Andy ,hope all is well with you :thumb and thanks again for yosemite . i left the shot without a crop for the color transition and i understand the bird I should have nailed it :cry .A ? the bird in the back ground i would not even know how to get all that sharp in one shot :scratch I liked the out of focus on the second bird ---your opinion ? thanks for the advice a agree with all of you that commented :thumb and try again ---try and stop me :rofl

[jwear]

I agree with Andy on everything except the bird facing the viewer. They hardly ever do that. And when they do, it is not that pretty. Not a good perspective.

An example of a suspicious paranoid Osprey can be given, might be able to dig up an egret facing me. A crazy pelican could be found also. Any others would fly first. Ducks, I have not experienced that much, but gotta make them interesting from the side, IMO, just my most humble opinion.

I do like the light, that is what I think you were working with, and I like it. Since you can reshoot???? I never can reshoot birds, but since you can, I would go to it, very nice light.

Why do you think the bird was not sharp, just out of curiosity. Your shots usually are sharper.

On the "one shot" rule, does that mean you can not show a reshoot for a week?

ginger the truth is Ginger we [Ben and Laura ] on the way out walking and talking .I saw this and just took 1 shot and did it with the 300 to me it was a bad lens choice .anyway last nite i put up 2 shots the shunk and this one to look at [it was late] and this shot i liked more than when i spotted it so i tried to ps some and put it up .the advice from all of you made me happy to be truthful .some one liked the shot also makes me feel good .IE XO looking and giving his advice even tho the shot in not sharp [I know that ] so I will try more and harder at some thing other than my animals but only when there are no animals around :rofl :rofl and Ginger you and all us birders know they ain't goin pose for us --Andy is telling me that to be a great shot give it something --maybe a decoy :D

[jwear]

Alllrriiiiggghhhtty Then, you've entered the whipping Post !! :calp
You already know that I know Jack but here goes

Dig the idea 2 shafts of light 2 duckeys using it to guide their way, good eye Jeff.
Andy is correct on sharpness, I would have liked both duckeys to be sharp.
I as well would have croped top and bottom of image, when I scroll my screen to cover either top or bottom, image looks better to me. Maybe give the crop a try and see what you think?ok leave the door open be there in a minute or 2 :D ps help need here :dunno

[ginger_55]

the truth is Ginger we [Ben and Laura ] on the way out walking and talking .I saw this and just took 1 shot and did it with the 300 to me it was a bad lens choice .anyway last nite i put up 2 shots the shunk and this one to look at [it was late] and this shot i liked more than when i spotted it so i tried to ps some and put it up .the advice from all of you made me happy to be truthful .some one liked the shot also makes me feel good .IE XO looking and giving his advice even tho the shot in not sharp [I know that ] so I will try more and harder at some thing other than my animals but only when there are no animals around :rofl :rofl and Ginger you and all us birders know they ain't goin pose for us --Andy is telling me that to be a great shot give it something --maybe a decoy :D
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Jeff, since we can't drive our cars around shooting birds, like you can in Florida, we can build blinds. I have read about them in books and magazines. The last article, it was on the internet, detailed instructions on building a blind. They can be built to float????? I can see myself in that small rookery area at Magnolia Gardens floating along in a bird blind.

They would arrest me and take away my pass. (Some nut might even take my picture)

I have head on osprey shots, not many from the other birds, they really are not that attractive, you know people's heads are not really straight on in most portraits. But birds just lose their beaks, all the good stuff.
I will post some, but I am not wasting my shot here. I have stuff I could post, but I might want to post something else. Silly.

Hey, we could all get together, build blinds for each of us, then float them all together.......................this is the silliest "sport". If horses are the sport of kings, what is bird photography?

I would seriously think that blinds would have a very limited usage.

ginger