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JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 07:58 AM
First off, I just realized that you can display categories by typing the category name after your URL, ie http://scottryanphotography.smugmug.com/weddings

Awesome! Except that it's the default theme! How would I go about matching this to the rest of my site?

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 08:41 AM
First off, I just realized that you can display categories by typing the category name after your URL, ie http://scottryanphotography.smugmug.com/weddings

Awesome! Except that it's the default theme! How would I go about matching this to the rest of my site?The more I'm looking at this, the more I think that the only thing that needs to be changed is the background color (which I'm still not sure how to do).

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 08:54 AM
There are no public galleries in your weddings category so all we see is a blank page that says "No Galleries Found". You can see what we see if you look at that link http://scottryanphotography.smugmug.com/weddings when logged out. As I see it now, it's just a black background. Unsure what you want changed.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 10:11 AM
I just wanted to be able to change the background color from black to #161616.

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 10:16 AM
I just wanted to be able to change the background color from black to #161616. Until I can see some public galleries in that category, I can't help you or see what you're seeing. I also don't know whether you mean background of the whole page, background of the gallery thumbs, background of both, background of something else?

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 10:17 AM
Well even if I could do that, I guess my thinking is flawed. Anything I make public in any category will show up on my "galleries" page, but that's not really what I'm shooting for. I'd ideally like to have some public "wedding" galleries that don't show up on my galleries page.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 10:18 AM
Until I can see some public galleries in that category, I can't help you or see what you're seeing. I also don't know whether you mean background of the whole page, background of the gallery thumbs, background of both, background of something else? I made my only "wedding" gallery public, do you still not see it? I'm seeing it just fine in Visitor View.

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 10:37 AM
I made my only "wedding" gallery public, do you still not see it? I'm seeing it just fine in Visitor View. I see it now. What background do you want to change the color on?

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 10:39 AM
I made my only "wedding" gallery public, do you still not see it? I'm seeing it just fine in Visitor View. You know, categories have a theme. The Weddings category is just not set to your custom theme. Why not just fix it that way?

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 10:45 AM
You know, categories have a theme. The Weddings category is just not set to your custom theme. Why not just fix it that way?I tried that...it looks identical when I did that. I'm trying to change the background of the page to be #161616, while retaining #000000 inside the white gallery border (just like my "Galleries" page).

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 10:52 AM
I tried that...it looks identical when I did that. I'm trying to change the background of the page to be #161616, while retaining #000000 inside the white gallery border (just like my "Galleries" page). OK. FYI, on my calibrated monitor that is not overly bright, there is little if any visible difference between #000000 and #161616, especially when there's a border at the boundary between the colors.

You can change the outer background color on the Weddings category with this CSS in your site-wide-customization:

body.category_Weddings {background-color: #161616;}

If you want all categories to work like that, then use:

body.category {background-color: #161616;}

If you want all pages to work like that, then use:

body {background-color: #161616;}

On the other issue, you are correct that if you make a gallery unlisted so it will show in your Weddings category, then it will show on your galleries page too.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 10:56 AM
You're the man, John! Told you it was easy...

So do you have any suggestions for how I could have galleries in a "wedding" category that don't show on the "Galleries" page? Or is that something that just can't be done?

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 10:58 AM
You're the man, John! Told you it was easy...

So do you have any suggestions for how I could have galleries in a "wedding" category that don't show on the "Galleries" page? Or is that something that just can't be done? Since your galleries page is set to display galleries and not categories, it would require custom scripting to hide certain galleries and I've not seen anyone write that script. I have something that's close, but it doesn't quite work without further development.

For people who display their galleries page by category, there is a script called "delCategory" which you can search for on dgrin that would hide the Weddings category from your galleries page if you were displaying by category.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-14-2009, 11:21 AM
Since your galleries page is set to display galleries and not categories, it would require custom scripting to hide certain galleries and I've not seen anyone write that script. I have something that's close, but it doesn't quite work without further development.

For people who display their galleries page by category, there is a script called "delCategory" which you can search for on dgrin that would hide the Weddings category from your galleries page if you were displaying by category.Interesting.

I'll ask for your honest opinion, then. I'm not totally sold on how I have my galleries laid out right now. Do you think it would be better to display by category, and have a "Portfolio" category (which Events, Places, People, and Nature should already be in), and then Wedding category, in which I could have all of my different wedding galleries? I suppose I could do the same thing for Events.

Any feedback is good feedback. I just want prospective clients to be able to find my best work quickly.

jfriend
Jul-14-2009, 01:01 PM
Interesting.

I'll ask for your honest opinion, then. I'm not totally sold on how I have my galleries laid out right now. Do you think it would be better to display by category, and have a "Portfolio" category (which Events, Places, People, and Nature should already be in), and then Wedding category, in which I could have all of my different wedding galleries? I suppose I could do the same thing for Events.

Any feedback is good feedback. I just want prospective clients to be able to find my best work quickly.

To me, it's all about making it easy for your viewers to find what they want with the least hunting and the fewest clicks. And, what strategy to use depends a lot on how many things you have to find. If you have less than 10 items, you might as well just list them all on a galleries page. Anything else is just making people look in more places to find things that they need to. If you have more than 10 items and they fall into 2-3 natural groupings, then categories probably make more sense. You don't have very many items now, but if you will soon, they I'd suggest using categories. You should try to avoid having categories that only have one item in them and you should not use sub-categories until a single category gets overly large.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-15-2009, 06:59 AM
To me, it's all about making it easy for your viewers to find what they want with the least hunting and the fewest clicks. And, what strategy to use depends a lot on how many things you have to find. If you have less than 10 items, you might as well just list them all on a galleries page. Anything else is just making people look in more places to find things that they need to. If you have more than 10 items and they fall into 2-3 natural groupings, then categories probably make more sense. You don't have very many items now, but if you will soon, they I'd suggest using categories. You should try to avoid having categories that only have one item in them and you should not use sub-categories until a single category gets overly large.
Makes sense. I think I'll go ahead and set categories up, thus "future-proofing" myself a little. Now I have just one, ONE, problem with the layout. I want my Galleries page thumbnails to be centered. I applied the "4 across" code, but would like them centered if possible. I'm pretty happy with the way the actual galleries and subcategories are showing.

JohnnyNapalm
Jul-15-2009, 10:20 AM
Makes sense. I think I'll go ahead and set categories up, thus "future-proofing" myself a little. Now I have just one, ONE, problem with the layout. I want my Galleries page thumbnails to be centered. I applied the "4 across" code, but would like them centered if possible. I'm pretty happy with the way the actual galleries and subcategories are showing.Never mind, made them 3 across and centered. Thanks again for the help!