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Steve Cavigliano
Jun-20-2005, 04:44 PM
Hello All,
I was on the wharf in Santa Cruz, looking for something decent to shoot in 6 PM type lighting. I had already shot the wildlife - gulls, seals, pelicans and Andy :lol3
I have bern shooting too many birds and it's getting stale. I need to concentrate on some other subjects for awhile. So I've been really trying to do more landscape and people shots :rolleyes
Anyhow, while strolling around, I noticed this fellow sitting on a bench. Unfortunately, he wasn't one of the homeless (they really make interesting subjects), but as I looked at him, he sat as if in a trance. Maybe he was looking out towards the Lighthouse and the surfers at Steamer Lane. Or, maybe he was in a coma....lol Or, maybe I just caught him with a dumb look on his face? :dunno Whatever, I just had to try to capture that look.
If possible, I'd appreciate any suggestions you'd like to give me. This isn't the caliber of shot I'd post for a critique in the Critique Forum, but I'd love any feedback, what-so-ever.
Color crop
http://freezeframephotography.smugmug.com/photos/25603055-L.jpg
The shot had some nice contrast so I decided to try a B&W treatment :dunno
http://freezeframephotography.smugmug.com/photos/25603057-L.jpg
Finally, here's the non-cropped color version (well, almost no cropping). Do the restaurant in the upper left and the long shadows add any interest to the shot?
http://freezeframephotography.smugmug.com/photos/25628620-L.jpg
Thanks for taking the time :-)
Steve
behr655
Jun-20-2005, 05:02 PM
Maybe you should change the title to "The Lombotomy". :D
Did he realize that you photographed him?
Bear
bfjr
Jun-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Hi Steve
Nice to see you stretch, totally agree been trying myself
My choice here is the B&W because in color that darn dolly keeps taking me away from the subject.
But ya know me and ya know I don't know Jack :D
David_S85
Jun-20-2005, 05:27 PM
I think ya need to clone in a hypnotist about 10 feet in front of the guy. :rofl
wholenewlight
Jun-20-2005, 05:31 PM
I like the B&W one better. As already mentioned the purple dolly/hand truck and yellow wall are too bold and become the subject instead of "the thinker".
Hey here's a thought . . . this shot could be your challenge 41, "movie title" entry . . .
Sling Blade
Uh Huh
http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/25637228-L.jpg
:D
jwear
Jun-20-2005, 08:17 PM
the thinker ?????????? did you put a mirror by his nose ?? the thinker I do not think so -- not for a long time :rofl :rofl sorry Steve I treid to be serious and it did not work :cry it is a good pic and made me look and think ---oh now i get it the thinker just not him :thumb
jwear
Jun-20-2005, 08:18 PM
the thinker ?????????? did you put a mirror by his lips ?? the thinker I do not think so -- not for a long time :rofl :rofl sorry Steve I treid to be serious and it did not work :cry it is a good pic and made me look and think ---oh now i get it the thinker just not him :thumb i just saw IT, is that dolly his RIDE :dunno
bochie
Jun-20-2005, 09:45 PM
I like the first one. :thumb
The dolly seems to mimic the guy but backwards.
I would like to be able to see his eyes though, maybe it will show even more emptiness.
adrian_k
Jun-21-2005, 12:35 AM
I like the first one. :thumb
The dolly seems to mimic the guy but backwards.
I would like to be able to see his eyes though, maybe it will show even more emptiness.
:agree
Yuri Pautov
Jun-21-2005, 01:15 AM
Priviet, Steve!
I prefer b&w.
Great photo!
Yuri
Seamus
Jun-21-2005, 02:10 AM
That is a "thousand yard stare", great shot Steve, very pensive.
Shay.
Angelo
Jun-21-2005, 08:36 AM
Steve I like #3 best. I like the color over b/w and the sense of lone solitude this wide shot offers. (yes Andy, I'm advocating W I D E) :D
I thought you've become famous for your *squat*??? I might have gotten a bit lower and shot more at his eye level. (IMHO)
nice capture though :thumb
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-21-2005, 08:37 AM
Maybe you should change the title to "The Lombotomy". :D
Did he realize that you photographed him?
Bear
LOL Bear,
I don't think he "realized" much of anything. He did move about 20 seconds after I snapped the pic, so he was alive, but he definitely was "somewhere else" :rofl
Thanks for commenting,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-21-2005, 08:41 AM
Hi Steve
Nice to see you stretch, totally agree been trying myself
My choice here is the B&W because in color that darn dolly keeps taking me away from the subject.
But ya know me and ya know I don't know Jack :D
Hiya Ben :wave
Yep, I wasn't crazy about the dolly either, but as you can see in the un-cropped version, I didn't have much of a choice :dunno I'm not real good with composition and this was a spur of the moment shot. Reflecting on this shot, I probably should have tried to get him from the other side. Only after I had taken the shot, did I realize he'd be frozen like that for so long....LOL
Thanks for your comments :thumb
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-21-2005, 08:43 AM
I think ya need to clone in a hypnotist about 10 feet in front of the guy. :rofl
LOL David,
I was waiting for the cup to fall out of his hand :lol3 Or, for a drop of drool to fall from his lower lip :uhoh You've got to realize we're talkin Santa Cruz here. A place where this man is semi-normal looking....lol This is also the place where you see bumperstickers that say "Keep Santa Cruz Weird" :rolleyes No worries on that account :lol
Thanks for taking the time to comment,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-21-2005, 08:46 AM
I like the B&W one better. As already mentioned the purple dolly/hand truck and yellow wall are too bold and become the subject instead of "the thinker".
Hey here's a thought . . . this shot could be your challenge 41, "movie title" entry . . .
Sling Blade
Uh Huh
http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/25637228-L.jpg
:D
LOL WNL,
I was thinking about that character from Slingblade while shooting this. I had it all worked out that if he got up and got violent, I was gonna hit him with Andy's camera :lol
Thanks for looking and for your comments,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-21-2005, 09:07 AM
the thinker ?????????? did you put a mirror by his nose ?? the thinker I do not think so -- not for a long time :rofl :rofl sorry Steve I treid to be serious and it did not work :cry it is a good pic and made me look and think ---oh now i get it the thinker just not him :thumb
Thanks Jeff :D
I know what you mean. It's tough for me to be serious too. Especially with a shot like this one.....lol The same humor everyone else sees is what motivated me to take this shot. I knew it wasn't going to be a masterpiece, but I figured it would be entertaining. Also, the light was decent and there really wasn't anything else to shoot....lol
Yeah, "The Thinker" title was a feeble attempt at wit....lol He was drinking the Un-cola and he is more like the Un-thinker :lol
Thanks for your comments,
Steve
pete w
Jun-21-2005, 12:13 PM
:D He looks a little dazed and confused.
That aside i like the cropped color version.
dragon300zx
Jun-21-2005, 12:21 PM
I'm with yuri b&w for me but I would like to see it uncropped. I know the crop focuses more on the guy (Looks to me like he is stoned, or up on some other mind altering chemical :jose:jose) but I think the uncropped with no one else in the photos almost brings out the feeling of complete emptiness (when I see the photo all I can think of is emptiness in his brain) that it conveys to me. :dunno just my 2cents.
ian408
Jun-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Steve, that guy sits a couple cubes over from me. Let me show him and
see what he thinks...only kidding :rofl :rofl
I like the expression but I'm not sure what he's contemplating. Maybe shot a
little behind and looking forward would help give the feeling he was experiencing?
Ian
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:18 PM
I like the first one. :thumb
The dolly seems to mimic the guy but backwards.
I would like to be able to see his eyes though, maybe it will show even more emptiness.
Thanks for the feedback Bochie :D
Yeah, I wanted to get more eyes, but I was afraid that if I moved closer towards the front of him he'd snap out of his reverie :rolleyes If I had known he was going to be in this stupor for another 30 seconds, I would have tried it. Oh well....lol :dunno
Thanks again for looking,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:18 PM
:agree
Thanks for responding Adrian :D
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:21 PM
Priviet, Steve!
I prefer b&w.
Great photo!
Yuri
Spasibo Yuri :D
I couldn't get those great eyes like you always manage to capture. But then again, my subject was not a beautiful woman or child. More like the opposite....lol I don't think I lost anything by doing a B&W conversion.
Thanks for your feedback,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:22 PM
That is a "thousand yard stare", great shot Steve, very pensive.
Shay.
Thanks Shay :D
Yep, as I was shooting this I was wondering what he was thinking about. What ever it was, he was thinking on it deeply :huh "Thousand yard stare", that's a good one. I'll have to remember that...lol
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:26 PM
Steve I like #3 best. I like the color over b/w and the sense of lone solitude this wide shot offers. (yes Andy, I'm advocating W I D E) :D
I thought you've become famous for your *squat*??? I might have gotten a bit lower and shot more at his eye level. (IMHO)
nice capture though :thumb
Thanks Angelo :D
Nah, I don't squat while shooting, that's Waxy (the infamous Sid Squat :lol)
But you are right, lowering the perspective would have been a good idea :thumb I liked the wide view too(even though it's only a 44mm FOV :rolleyes) I also liked it because there wasn't any traffic (vehicular or pedestrian) in the back ground.
Thanks for the feedback and for taking the time to respond,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:28 PM
:D He looks a little dazed and confused.
That aside i like the cropped color version.
Thanks for the comments Pete :D
Yeah, I wonder if that was a 7&7, or some of that "laced" punch we had in the 70's in that cup :rofl
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:30 PM
I'm with yuri b&w for me but I would like to see it uncropped. I know the crop focuses more on the guy (Looks to me like he is stoned, or up on some other mind altering chemical :jose:jose) but I think the uncropped with no one else in the photos almost brings out the feeling of complete emptiness (when I see the photo all I can think of is emptiness in his brain) that it conveys to me. :dunno just my 2cents.
Thanks Gary :D
Your comments agree with what was in my mind. Emptiness and lonliness. No other movement or interesting subjects within the frame. I'll have to try a B&W conversion on the uncropped shot :thumb
Thanks for looking and for the feedback,
Steve
Steve Cavigliano
Jun-22-2005, 12:33 PM
Steve, that guy sits a couple cubes over from me. Let me show him and
see what he thinks...only kidding :rofl :rofl
I like the expression but I'm not sure what he's contemplating. Maybe shot a
little behind and looking forward would help give the feeling he was experiencing?
Ian
LOL Ian,
He did sort of look like an IT guy (a burnt out one :lol3) You know where I was for this shot. Right at the end of the wharf. I had room to move in front of him, but couldn't get his face and what he was contemplating in the same frame :dunno A shot from the other side (once I would have walked around the building) might have been better. At least there would have been a background of water :scratch
Thanks for looking and commenting,
Steve
Angelo
Jun-22-2005, 12:47 PM
Thanks Angelo :D
Nah, I don't squat while shooting, that's Waxy (the infamous Sid Squat :lol)
But you are right, lowering the perspective would have been a good idea :thumb I liked the wide view too(even though it's only a 44mm FOV :rolleyes) I also liked it because there wasn't any traffic (vehicular or pedestrian) in the back ground.
Thanks for the feedback and for taking the time to respond,
Steveahhhh that's right.... the Sid Squat. well, I'm taking Yoga now so I can achieve that competitive stance :rofl
tmlphoto
Jun-22-2005, 03:19 PM
Maybe you should change the title to "The Lombotomy". :D
Did he realize that you photographed him?
Bear
I agree. Maybe "Comatose" or "Drug Induced Stupor" :). It's kinda hard to take that expression seriously.
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