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Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 04:06 AM

Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge #27

Welcome to Round #27 of the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenges. This challenge is open to any Dgrin member. It will run from Monday, June 1, 08:00am, EST time (GMT -5) to Monday, June 15, 08:00am, EST time (GMT -5).

The topic ready for your interpretation: Singular or Plural (Exclusive Black and White Challenge)

One, two, many, lots... How many will you choose? However many, it or they must be in black and white. No tints. No colors. Just black and white and shades of grey.

Your Judges:
Greensquared (Winner of Round 24)
HoofClix (Guest Judge)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your entry is to be submitted directly into a Smugmug gallery. It's pretty simple, just go to the gallery link below, and follow the upload instructions at the top of the page:DSS#27 Entry Gallery (http://challenges.smugmug.com/gallery/8403204_RMveG)Remember, the basics stay the same: 1 entry per person, and the photo must be fresh, taken during this contest period. Do not use a minimal save method (such as "save for web"), and your exif will be embedded in your image, no worries!

To avoid disqualification, read, in full, the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge Rules (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=129426), there have been some slight modifications.

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 04:52 AM

One, two, many, lots...

Right, I'll need my cooling helmet for this one...

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 05:35 AM

Right, I'll need my cooling helmet for this one...

I wondered how many would pick up on that reference. Should've known you'd be one. :lol3

divamum

Jun-01-2009, 05:38 AM

Ok, colour me clueless - my pop-culture illiteracy is showing... gonna fill the rest of us in? :D

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 05:44 AM

Ok, colour me clueless - my pop-culture illiteracy is showing... gonna fill the rest of us in? :D

It's a reference to Terry Pratchett's Discworld books, specifically his trolls. Known for their stupidity, "One, two, many, lots," is the best they can count. Unless they're cool. The colder they are, the smarter they get. By troll standards. :D Look for Detritus in Men at Arms for more on the cooling helmet.

/geekcred

divamum

Jun-01-2009, 05:56 AM

Ahhh... I never read Pratchett, so that explains it.

Did you know that's how they count in Papua New Guinea (so I've been told)? It's "one, two, three, many". :D

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 06:16 AM

It's a reference to Terry Pratchett's Discworld books, specifically his trolls. Known for their stupidity, "One, two, many, lots," is the best they can count. Unless they're cool. The colder they are, the smarter they get. By troll standards. :D Look for Detritus in Men at Arms for more on the cooling helmet.

/geekcred
Trolls can count, it's just that they use many and lots as numbers. This challenge round is # lots-many-many-three :wink :deal

michswiss

Jun-01-2009, 06:31 AM

Ok, I'm somehow annoyed and pleased at the same time that there are Terry Pratchett fans here. I've read a couple of his novels due to constant protestations by someone that used to work for me.

Now here's the thing. I can't imagine Pratchett EVER choosing B&W as a medium. But I luv a good conversion...

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 06:42 AM

michswiss

Jun-01-2009, 06:49 AM

At this point the conversation has little to do with the challenge and its medium :lol3

Conversion: A black and white conversation without an A&T.

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 06:53 AM

Trolls can count, it's just that they use many and lots as numbers. This challenge round is # lots-many-many-three :wink :deal

...okay, geek cred revoked. :giggle

I can't imagine Pratchett EVER choosing B&W as a medium

Indeed, there would likely be many-many-lots shades of grey. With footnotes. And neologisms for titles. :deal

Oh yeah, soon after the Monty Python challenge, there's so going to be a Terry Pratchett challenge. :wink

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 07:00 AM

...okay, geek cred revoked. :giggle

I may have crossed the line into nerdism. Dang.

Indeed, there would likely be many-many-lots shades of grey. With footnotes. And neologisms for titles. :deal

Oh yeah, soon after the Monty Python challenge, there's so going to be a Terry Pratchett challenge. :wink

mmm, I've got an idea already!

Combine those into Python or Pratchett and then see what people come up with. City Watch Silly Walks Department...

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 08:57 AM

Combine those into Python or Pratchett and then see what people come up with. City Watch Silly Walks Department...

Oh... oh, my God... I am so, so tempted. Must... resist... powers of geekery. :wxwax

Then again, it may be the perfect way to leave my mark on the challenges. :evil

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 11:09 AM

Oh... oh, my God... I am so, so tempted. Must... resist... powers of geekery. :wxwax

Then again, it may be the perfect way to leave my mark on the challenges. :evil

Kerry, I have but two words for you.

Do it!

Tango

Jun-01-2009, 11:12 AM

I'd pay to see this outcome:D

MarkR

Jun-01-2009, 11:14 AM

Somehow I imagine a lot of entries involving turtles ... :wink Possibly with dinner plates balanced on their backs ...

Tango

Jun-01-2009, 11:15 AM

[note to self] : get coconut horse ordered asap!

CWSkopec

Jun-01-2009, 11:28 AM

[note to self] : get coconut horse ordered asap!

And I'll pay to see that!! :rofl

MarkR

Jun-01-2009, 11:32 AM

Hmmm...

"The Hedgehog Can Never Be Buggered by A Naked Man Jumping Through a Ring of Fire."

:huh

divamum

Jun-01-2009, 12:02 PM

Hmmm...

"The Hedgehog Can Never Be Buggered by A Naked Man Jumping Through a Ring of Fire."

:huh

:lol :lol :lol :lol

pyry

Jun-01-2009, 02:30 PM

I've just had a funny idea about having Luggage as my travel trunk slash camera'bag'. I'd never have to carry anything. And just think about the comedy potential of checking Luggage in for a flight...

richtersl

Jun-01-2009, 02:36 PM

Hmmm...

"The Hedgehog Can Never Be Buggered by A Naked Man Jumping Through a Ring of Fire."

:huh

:rofl:lol3:giggle:smile6

Katmitchell

Jun-01-2009, 02:37 PM

Oh...... I have been waiting for a black and white round... thanks Kerry.. Awesome.. and the Theme >> Love it.........:clap:clap:clap

Kat

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 03:39 PM

And just think about the comedy potential of checking Luggage in for a flight...

I think TSA would shut down the entire airport, but it would be so convenient for it to walk itself through security. Though good luck ever actually retrieving your gear from it. :lol3

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 03:40 PM

Oh...... I have been waiting for a black and white round... thanks Kerry...

:thumb

But wait until you see the next one. Not sure how many thanks I'm going to get when it rolls around. :wink

dnie

Jun-01-2009, 03:46 PM

:thumb

But wait until you see the next one. Not sure how many thanks I'm going to get when it rolls around. :wink

:cry oh no! you really are going to do it!
Not Monty Python.:bow I am clueless!:dunno I am the one person in the world that has never watched it.
:help

:giggle

MarkR

Jun-01-2009, 03:52 PM

:cry oh no! you really are going to do it!
Not Monty Python.:bow I am clueless!:dunno I am the one person in the world that has never watched it.
:help

:giggle

I believe Llewellyn was referring to this (http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1105151&postcount=4) :deal :wink

dnie

Jun-01-2009, 04:02 PM

I believe Llewellyn was referring to this (http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1105151&postcount=4) :deal :wink

HEY!! That I can do.
I have guys coming in tomorrow to replace the bathroom floor... :D I'll just go get shots of how bad it is tonight.... :lol

Oh darn , then it won't be fresh pictures...
and then I would have to actually finish it, huh?

divamum

Jun-01-2009, 04:04 PM

Llywellyn, you're scaring me. WHAT do you have up your sleeve????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be afraid, be very very afraid..................... :rofl

Katmitchell

Jun-01-2009, 04:09 PM

I think TSA would shut down the entire airport, but it would be so convenient for it to walk itself through security. Though good luck ever actually retrieving your gear from it. :lol3

Airport...NO WAY... :hideI am not taking my camera anywhere near and airport with the new homeland security in place.. I mean... I went out to a place called Normandy, TN, just a tiny little no name town and went to shoot the Dam there, and 15 minutes into it, a white truck pulls up and this official type guy starts asking me what I am taking pictures of and why..... I got freggin interrogated:lynnsite in a no name town..!!!!! they don't like people with cameras at Dams.. I can imagine at airports..

Kat

Llywellyn

Jun-01-2009, 04:32 PM

Llywellyn, you're scaring me. WHAT do you have up your sleeve????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muahahaha... :evil

sherstone

Jun-01-2009, 10:48 PM

Muahahaha... :evil

that's so..... scary :twitch

I am actually looking forward to it now :D
[rubs hands together]

Katmitchell

Jun-02-2009, 10:58 AM

:thumb

But wait until you see the next one. Not sure how many thanks I'm going to get when it rolls around. :wink

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Well..........................

Come on Kerry...

DO we at least get a tiny hint? just one little tiny clue? :D awww come on.. lets play I spy......... ewww cant wait to see what it is....

OH NO... Just had a scary thought.. what if it is a self portrait? oh please no........

Kat

Katmitchell

Jun-02-2009, 11:08 AM

Of our childhoods or present? :rofl

"Both Terrify Me" :huh:huh:huh

One day I might get brave enough.... maybe...:scratch

Llywellyn

Jun-02-2009, 11:28 AM

OH NO... Just had a scary thought.. what if it is a self portrait? oh please no........

Oh, now there's an interesting idea... :wink

ic4u

Jun-02-2009, 11:36 AM

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OH NO... Just had a scary thought.. what if it is a self portrait? oh please no........

Kat

Don't go giving her ideas Kat!!!
Since Diva has already mastered that topic, how bout we just declare her the winner and move onto a different idea:giggle :giggle :giggle

Katmitchell

Jun-02-2009, 12:22 PM

Don't go giving her ideas Kat!!!
Since Diva has already mastered that topic, how bout we just declare her the winner and move onto a different idea:giggle :giggle :giggle

Oh.. total bummer... ooops.... sorry.... :help:dgrin:hide

Subject change "quick", somebody get her mind off of it..

So Kerry, hows the weather? :saurora:whew its hot here in the South.

How about Spam, who likes SPAM? :spam

divamum

Jun-02-2009, 03:29 PM

"mastered the topic" :lol :rofl :lol :rofl

The only reason I do SP's as often as I do is because there's nobody else around to model for me!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously - it's NECESSITY. And believe me, if it weren't for PS you wouldn't be seeing so much of my own mug... :rofl

Tango

Jun-02-2009, 05:54 PM

divamum

Jun-02-2009, 06:03 PM

i would like to see a selfportrait challenge mixed with the monty python theme.

let me know when to order my Horse:D

:hide

hey look at the brightside...we could all have new avatars after that round:thumb

Well, that leaves me the choice of either getting dressed up with a carrot on my nose ("I'm NOT a witch!") or in a filmy white garment shouting "A spanking! A spanking!"

Ok, maybe not.... :rofl :rofl :rofl

Katmitchell

Jun-02-2009, 07:39 PM

You said the SP word..!!!

lets focus on the SPAM.. We can do a contest on who can photograph SPAM the most creatively and then perhaps Kerry can get SPAM to ADD to the Prize pool and sponsor it... there we go... that gets my vote..

OR

I see you have the machine that goes "bing":lol

achambers

Jun-03-2009, 10:14 AM

Well, that leaves me the choice of either getting dressed up with a carrot on my nose ("I'm NOT a witch!") or in a filmy white garment shouting "A spanking! A spanking!"

Ok, maybe not.... :rofl :rofl :rofl

I vote for the spanking.:D

divamum

Jun-04-2009, 05:09 AM

I vote for the spanking.:D

:rolleyes :D

You know I was just the other day wondering where you'd been, Alan - WB! :wave

Are we going to see any photos from you this round? :D

pemmett

Jun-04-2009, 05:45 AM

Oh... oh, my God... I am so, so tempted. Must... resist... powers of geekery. :wxwax

Then again, it may be the perfect way to leave my mark on the challenges. :evil

Monty Monty Monty... if I keep chanting it must come true :-)

pemmett

Jun-04-2009, 05:46 AM

Hmmm...

"The Hedgehog Can Never Be Buggered by A Naked Man Jumping Through a Ring of Fire."

:huh

Just watch me try :rofl

pemmett

Jun-04-2009, 05:51 AM

I vote for the spanking.:D

Is this also a possible topic for a challenge round?

Tango

Jun-04-2009, 08:51 AM

and im thinking a Benny Hill theme too:D

Greensquared

Jun-04-2009, 09:38 AM

Oh Peter, I can so see you with that scarf on your head, holding a dead parrot and being chased around by scantily clad females (with a familiar theme tune merrrily playing!) :rofl

Kerry - ya done brung it, girl! I'm glad to be judging this round as I haven't a clue what I would shoot if I werent. :scratch But, I can't wait to see what you come up with next! Hopefully I'll get a little creativity and energy back over the next couple of weeks!

Okay, ya'll, continue to keep me entertained with yer banter. I need a good laugh or two!

(Please note: all slang and misspelled words are intentional - I truly do have a decent vocabulary and my drawl isn't that thick. And why do I feel the need for a disclaimer? You should too with a NASA editor in our midst!)

Llywellyn

Jun-04-2009, 10:00 AM

(...And why do I feel the need for a disclaimer? You should too with a NASA editor in our midst!)
Oh man, now I need to disclaim my own posts! I do not type the way I edit, whatsoever. And I totally still say (and type) "y'all." I just put the apostrophe in a different place. :wink

NASA editor translation: "Good heavens, I feel I should protest such proclamations as I would, too, fall victim to their necessity. I fear my locution is much changed in print than it is online. I do dabble—nay, dip a timid toe—into the slang run rampant on the Internet and in common speech, including but not limited to the conjuction 'y'all.' I do, however, punctuate it in quite a different manner."

(Yeah, my inner editor is a faux Brit. Explains a lot, doesn't it?)

Katmitchell

Jun-04-2009, 10:24 AM

Great now I am paranoid too....Brings back the college technical writing memories...ughhhhh..

" Who is this Nasa Writer Person" ?

I moved to Tennessee from Colorado, talk about a language barrier.. 3 years in and I am picking up the southern drawl... people here still laugh at me for calling "coke" "soda pop"... and my husband came home in shock because they actually say,

lets go visit mom "n" nem.... down by the crick...

gotta love them Southern Bells.. I have one for a neighbor and it takes work to understand her sometimes... and the southern draw pulls ya in slowly...the next thing ya know your suthun..

What is really strange is arriving here from Colorado and thinking we sound so "normal" and everyone here laughs at the way "we" talk.. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

Greensquared

Jun-04-2009, 10:38 AM

Jumpin' crap, did I just get a typo correction on "ya'll"? :huh See...I told ya!!!!!!!!

Greensquared

Jun-04-2009, 10:44 AM

I moved to Tennessee from Colorado, talk about a language barrier.. 3 years in and I am picking up the southern drawl... people here still laugh at me for calling "coke" "soda pop"... and my husband came home in shock because they actually say,

So take 10 years of Pacific NW, add 12 years of East London (yeah that's England and totaly means cockney) and throw in 18 years of Georgia. What do you get? A total of a 40 year old, completely screwed up accent!

Katmitchell

Jun-04-2009, 11:01 AM

So take 10 years of Pacific NW, add 12 years of East London (yeah that's England and totaly means cockney) and throw in 18 years of Georgia. What do you get? A total of a 40 year old, completely screwed up accent!

OMGOSH... :roflYou could have your very own dialect.. :ivar

I wonder....biscuit with fried chicken or with tea..? :lol
I thought I had it tough.. Guess not...:cavig

Tango

Jun-04-2009, 11:02 AM

NASA editor translation: "Good heavens, I feel I should protest such proclamations as I would, too, fall victim to their necessity. I fear my locution is much changed in print than it is online. I do dabble—nay, dip a timid toe—into the slang run rampant on the Internet and in common speech, including but not limited to the conjuction 'y'all.' I do, however, punctuate it in quite a different manner."

[in my best Foxworthy impression]

Huh?:huh

Tango

Jun-04-2009, 11:04 AM

Jumpin' crap

[my best Foxworthy impression]

Huh?:huh

Tango

Jun-04-2009, 11:05 AM

"soda pop"...

[my best Foxworthy impression]

Huh?:huh

Katmitchell

Jun-04-2009, 11:14 AM

Jumpin crap, that them there Aaron character has never heard of soda pop..:huh

Greensquared

Jun-04-2009, 04:59 PM

Jumpin crap, that them there Aaron character has never heard of soda pop..:huh

Hey, I'm here in Georgia. It ain't soda, or pop, or fizzy drink, Pepsi or anything else - it's ALL Coke! Either that or tea, which will be served ice cold with a ton o' sugar - nasty stuff! I can't believe I have to actually ask for "hot tea and milk". And they think I'm odd!

And when you been chased by a herd of bulls in a field full of cow patties, you'll know what I mean by "Jumpin' crap!".

achambers

Jun-04-2009, 05:46 PM

It ain't soda, or pop, or fizzy drink, Pepsi or anything else - it's ALL Coke!

Don't feel alone Emily, when I move to Ohio from the west coast I had the same problem. Growing up (out west) when you asked for a coke you were asked what flavor (and this was in the period before 'New Coke").

achambers

Jun-04-2009, 05:47 PM

:rolleyes :D

You know I was just the other day wondering where you'd been, Alan - WB! :wave

Are we going to see any photos from you this round? :D

I might get something done if the muse hits.

Katmitchell

Jun-04-2009, 06:22 PM

Hey, I'm here in Georgia. It ain't soda, or pop, or fizzy drink, Pepsi or anything else - it's ALL Coke! Either that or tea, which will be served ice cold with a ton o' sugar - nasty stuff! I can't believe I have to actually ask for "hot tea and milk". And they think I'm odd!

And when you been chased by a herd of bulls in a field full of cow patties, you'll know what I mean by "Jumpin' crap!".

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(rolling):lol4 >> ok, now I get what you mean... you literally mean "jumpin crap" gotta save that one in the banks. too funny...... HA HA..

I am addicted to Sweet Southern Tea on Ice with a Twist of Keylime... YUM.:slosh
Hold the Fried Okra though.. blahhhhhhhhhhhh.......

Tango

Jun-04-2009, 07:20 PM

Jumpin Crap, Ahh.... i get it....
when Im avoiding our Bull (whom wants me DEAD btw) i rarely avoid the crap, usually I find myself running through the crap for dear life.....:D

pemmett

Jun-04-2009, 08:41 PM

Jumpin Crap, Ahh.... i get it....
when Im avoiding our Bull (whom wants me DEAD btw) i rarely avoid the crap, usually I find myself running through the crap for dear life.....:D

The four basic principals of CRAP by Robin Williams (The Non Designers Design Book)
Contrast: ...Contrast is often the most important visual attraction on a page ...
Repetition: Repeat visual elements of the design throughout the piece...
Alignment: Nothing should be placed on the page arbitrarily...
Proximity: Items relating to each other should be grouped close together...

The four basic principals of CRAP by Lovers of hedgehogs and rings of fire
Contrast: The bigger the contrast your low lifestyle is against the smart-arse who drives the Porsche the more crappier you feel ...
Repetition: The more repetitive your unhealthy eating habits are the more crappier you feel...
Alignment: If you align yourself with people having crap thrown at them and stand in front of the line the more crappier you will feel...
Proximity: The closer you stand to crappy people the more crappier your will feel...

dnie

Jun-04-2009, 09:47 PM

#1 - it is "ya'll"
#2 - It is "sweet tea", not iced tea... or in my house a good sugary batch is Mamaw tea, becuz of my grandmother.
#3 - "coke", although here in Texas we have the Dr. Pepper capital and in my house Big Red rules
#4 - Kat, you haven't lived if you don't eat okra. Please at least tell me you eat some good ole' chicken n' dumplin's. (Not that junk with all the vegtables)
#5 - Emily, Hot tea and milk? and they let you stay in Georgia? I would have thought it was against the law or somethin'. Geogia is about as southern as they come.

:D Thanks ya'll, I needed something to read before bed and you were very intertaining! :lust

(** please note ~ :lol I'm just playin')

Llywellyn

Jun-05-2009, 04:36 AM

Ahhhh! It's "y'all." A contraction of "you all." It is not like "you'll." :soapbox

(Also from Texas and thus also right, because all Texans are inherently right. In their own minds. :wink)

Now to have coffee and use my editing powers for good...and for being paid to work myself into a tizzy over things no one else cares about. :giggle

dnie

Jun-05-2009, 04:47 AM

MarkR

Jun-05-2009, 06:32 AM

CWSkopec

Jun-05-2009, 06:39 AM

Check the map (http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/popvssodamap.gif) :deal

If you're west or south of Syracuse NY, it's "pop."

Gave me a complex when I went to SUNY Binghamton all those years ago.

It's true!!! I was born & raised in Syracuse... when I was about 8 we visited an aunt and uncle in the Buffalo area and my aunt asked if I wanted some "pop." I had to ask my mom if I liked that!!! :rofl

Katmitchell

Jun-05-2009, 06:45 AM

Oh, no. There is a grammatical police lady on board. Be sure to watch your run on sentences, and your split infinitives...and lets not forget, the over use of commas.
I love those.. I am guessing my posts just drive her nuts....:rofl

Yes, Donna,, I have lived, I tried Okra.. loved it until I got to the slimy center... YUCK...

I sure make a mean texmex chili and hand rolled flour tortilla though.. yummy.........:lust

Kat

Katmitchell

Jun-05-2009, 06:49 AM

Check the map (http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/popvssodamap.gif) :deal

If you're west or south of Syracuse NY, it's "pop."

Gave me a complex when I went to SUNY Binghamton all those years ago.

Well that explains why we called it "soda pop" instead of one or the other...
we lived in Pueblo, Colorado and Rye.. and that borders the yellow and the blue zone..

Neat Map..:thumb

neptun

Jun-05-2009, 11:56 AM

just submitted my "thomas" photo for this challenge. since this is my first challenge, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.

MarkR

Jun-05-2009, 12:17 PM

An even better link: http://http://popvssoda.com:2998/

Even has a breakdown for the "other" responses, (some of which are Not Safe For Work.)

Most important part?

CONCLUSION

People who say "Pop" are much, much cooler.

:rofl

I also learned that "Pop" is a soda-jerk contraction of "Phosphates." Dunno if it's actually true, but if it's not, it should be. :thumb

MarkR

Jun-05-2009, 12:20 PM

just submitted my "thomas" photo for this challenge. since this is my first challenge, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.

You might want to post your image in a new thread with "DSS #27" in the title. You'll likely get the most/best feedback that way.

The peoples on this board are very friendly and helpful! (except me, I hijack threads. :scratch)

Welcome to Dgrin! :clap:clap:clap

Tango

Jun-05-2009, 01:02 PM

and im the POT STIRRER'ER'ER'ER

(howz/ Did, yA - Like that, Word.; manbou? i ... made iT / Juzt For4 ... u,)

neptun

Jun-05-2009, 01:06 PM

cool, will do MarkR (http://www.dgrin.com/member.php?u=6128).
thanks for ur help

Llywellyn

Jun-05-2009, 01:09 PM

Aaron... :smack

And what a horrid way to help end an editor's week. Reading that made my head :splat.

Tango

Jun-05-2009, 01:12 PM

:D stir'n stir'n..... cant wait to get my entry posted....:rofl

:hide

Katmitchell

Jun-05-2009, 03:33 PM

An even better link: http://http://popvssoda.com:2998/

Even has a breakdown for the "other" responses, (some of which are Not Safe For Work.)

Most important part?

:rofl

I also learned that "Pop" is a soda-jerk contraction of "Phosphates." Dunno if it's actually true, but if it's not, it should be. :thumb

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Yep, we the "soda pop" people are hip beyond all belief... Can't help ourselves...:barb.. couple that with our awesome 80's upbringing and well..awesomeness..

--- thanks for the link Mark the "Thread Hijacker"..:crazy Maybe I will just call you "Jack" or how about "TJ", yeah.. I like TJ... So T.J who is next on your list..:cavig

And Aarron > > :nono ..... Sorry Kerry, I can't help but laugh... :giggle

Duff

Jun-06-2009, 03:17 AM

Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge #27

Welcome to Round #27 of the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenges. This challenge is open to any Dgrin member. It will run from Monday, June 1, 08:00am, EST time (GMT -5) to Monday, June 15, 08:00am, EST time (GMT -5).

The topic ready for your interpretation: Singular or Plural (Exclusive Black and White Challenge)

One, two, many, lots... How many will you choose? However many, it or they must be in black and white. No tints. No colors. Just black and white and shades of grey.

Your Judges:
Greensquared (Winner of Round 24)
TBA (Guest Judge)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your entry is to be submitted directly into a Smugmug gallery. It's pretty simple, just go to the gallery link below, and follow the upload instructions at the top of the page:DSS#27 Entry Gallery (http://challenges.smugmug.com/gallery/8403204_RMveG)Remember, the basics stay the same: 1 entry per person, and the photo must be fresh, taken during this contest period. Do not use a minimal save method (such as "save for web"), and your exif will be embedded in your image, no worries!

To avoid disqualification, read, in full, the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge Rules (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=129426), there have been some slight modifications. Is it the subject(s)? You can only submit one photo right? I just joined Smug today! forgive my greenness.

Katmitchell

Jun-06-2009, 03:33 AM

Yes, Either shoot > One Subject or Many Subjects... you have to choose one....

Yes, you only get to submit one photo.. and for this round it must be black and white..only.....no color at all..

Welcome Aboard..

Kat

divamum

Jun-06-2009, 06:48 AM

To add to Kat's explanation: Singular/Plural is the THEME for the round - your photo must somehow reflect that concept either literally, or interpreted in some way or to quote our beloved Former Fearlest Leader Greensquared, "Yours to interpret as you wish". (Which always sounds like the instruction on an A-level essay question!! :rofl)

Have fun - and welcome to dgrin! :wave

Katmitchell

Jun-06-2009, 03:58 PM

yes... what she said..

Like the new profile pic Diva.. man.. I really need to get around to updating mine...

:D Kat

dnie

Jun-06-2009, 09:31 PM

yes... what she said..

Like the new profile pic Diva.. man.. I really need to get around to updating mine...

:D Kat
careful... don't want to put ideas into "you know who's" mind for a T-H-E-M-E.
:D
:rofl :lol

Katmitchell

Jun-07-2009, 05:01 AM

careful... don't want to put ideas into "you know who's" mind for a T-H-E-M-E.
:D
:rofl :lol

oh yeah, "you know who"...

walking on egg shells.. thanks for the reminder.

So, Donna.. where is your latest submission? Looked and looked and have not seen it anywhere on the board.. are you gonna go with the wardrobe malfunction after all? :lol4

Llywellyn

Jun-07-2009, 06:53 AM

oh yeah, "you know who"...

:hide

Katmitchell

Jun-07-2009, 02:08 PM

oh no... she heard us..:doh

dnie

Jun-07-2009, 06:16 PM

oh yeah, "you know who"...

walking on egg shells.. thanks for the reminder.

So, Donna.. where is your latest submission? Looked and looked and have not seen it anywhere on the board.. are you gonna go with the wardrobe malfunction after all? :lol4

I haven't had time. My son Graduated yesterday and it has been chaos for days. We weren't even sure if he would get to walk until Thursday afternoon. He still had to make up English 4 this summer. He had failed geometetry too but his teacher let him retake the fianl and he squeaked by. :whew
Hopefully I will get to it this week. It's busy too, but maybe not quite as bad.

Katmitchell

Jun-07-2009, 07:41 PM

oh.. the stress of it.. I am so thankful my son is still 12yrs..old.. graduation sounds stressful.... You sounds very busy as usual... hopefully you will find some time for a little R&R and Shoot..

Ya know, there may be some potential in that graduation hat being so black, maybe on a white background or a white marble background.. that's what popped into my head the minute you said graduation... thought to share that...

So that is where the black and white balloons came from... I wondered..:scratch

I will keep my eye out on the board should you find the time to get one up....:thumb

Kat

MarkR

Jun-08-2009, 04:56 PM

:hide

I may be sucking wind this challenge, but I've got my Discworld picture all ready for the next Challenge!

It is going to be Discworld, right? :wink :wink

"The Turtle Moves"
http://hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/558484590_W9NG8-M.jpg

Alas, the zookeeper would not let me balance a giant disk on its back. :cry

Llywellyn

Jun-08-2009, 05:25 PM

I may be sucking wind this challenge, but I've got my Discworld picture all ready for the next Challenge!

:haha

dnie

Jun-08-2009, 08:03 PM

creativedeviance

Jun-10-2009, 07:16 PM

I finally posted an image for the DGrin challenge. Woohoo! I've been wanting to do this for a while, but life has been too hectic.

~Kelly

MarkR

Jun-11-2009, 04:49 AM

I finally posted an image for the DGrin challenge. Woohoo! I've been wanting to do this for a while, but life has been too hectic.

~Kelly

:clap Welcome to Dgrin! :clap

You'll find entering Challenges to be quite addictive!

Greensquared

Jun-11-2009, 06:35 AM

Kelly, and all other newcomers...welcome!

Now who has a joke or something to tell me to keep me from twiddling my thumbs right off? :huh

Llywellyn

Jun-11-2009, 06:51 AM

Welcome, Kelly! Hope you have a grand time here in the challenges. :thumb

Em...uh, I got nothin', sorry. :wink

Greensquared

Jun-11-2009, 07:37 AM

Welcome, Kelly! Hope you have a grand time here in the challenges. :thumb

Em...uh, I got nothin', sorry. :wink

Awww...somebody tell a joke for Kerry QUICK! Screw the judges - keep the Mod happy at all costs!!!

divamum

Jun-11-2009, 07:47 AM

Awww...somebody tell a joke for Kerry QUICK! Screw the judges - keep the Mod happy at all costs!!!

Well, there's non-challenge discussion in Hoofie's Tail thread... er...

It works better aloud than written, but what the heck - here's my very favorite (over)intellectual joke:

A baker, musician, librarian and English teacher got off the train at King's Cross [ed note: London red light district] and saw a group of, uh, women standing on the corner.

"I wonder what the collective noun is for ladies of the night?", they mused.

The baker spoke up first: "I know," he said, "it's 'a jam of tarts'"

Not to be outdone, the musician chimed in with "No, no - it's 'flourish of strumpets'!"

The librarian added his own, suggesting "a volume of trollop[e]s".

They agreed this was the best so far when the English teacher stopped suddenly and said, "No, no, my friends - there can be no question. Surely it's 'An anthology of English pros[e]'"

Ba-dum-ching... tip your waiter, I'm here all week!

CWSkopec

Jun-11-2009, 07:51 AM

Awww...somebody tell a joke for Kerry QUICK! Screw the judges - keep the Mod happy at all costs!!!

A mushroom walks into a bar and takes a seat.

The bartender looks over and yells "HEY! Get out! We don't serve your kind around here!"

The poor little mushroom responds "Why not?!... I'm a fun-gi!"

:D

MarkR

Jun-11-2009, 07:51 AM

Well, there's non-challenge discussion in Hoofie's Tail thread... er...

It works better aloud than written, but what the heck - here's my very favorite (over)intellectual joke:

A baker, musician, librarian and English teacher got off the train at King's Cross [ed note: red light district] and saw a group of, uh, women standing on the corner.

"I wonder what the collective noun is for ladies of the night?", they mused.

The baker spoke up first: "I know," he said, "it's 'a jam of tarts'"

Not to be outdone, the musician chimed in with "No, no - it's 'flourish of strumpets'!"

The librarian added his own, suggesting "a volume of trollop[e]s".

They agreed this was the best so far when the English teacher stopped suddenly and said, "No, no, my friends - there can be no question. Surely it's 'An anthology of English pros[e]'"

Ba-dum-ching... tip your waiter, I'm here all week!

That's a lot better than my slightly more lowbrow humor:

"Guess what?

RHINO BUTT!"

http://hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/558487462_JPrQr-M-1.jpg

nightpixels

Jun-11-2009, 08:13 AM

Kelly, and all other newcomers...welcome!

Now who has a joke or something to tell me to keep me from twiddling my thumbs right off? :huh

You mean to tell us that you haven't been enjoying looking at the current entries in the gallery so far? :rofl

Llywellyn

Jun-11-2009, 08:58 AM

Awww...somebody tell a joke for Kerry QUICK! Screw the judges - keep the Mod happy at all costs!!!
I'm happy, I swear! Just bogged down a bit and a little brain-dead from the exhaustion. Hence no jokes leapt to mind for ya'. My quadruple coffee can only do so much... :twitch

Katmitchell

Jun-11-2009, 11:53 AM

I already tried that guys,,, with brownies.. no luck.. she is hard to please..:huh:huh:huh

Maybe try talking to her about what she loves...

So, Kerry,, what is the next artistic shoot you have planned..? Love what's in your gallery... so whatcha got up your sleeve for the next one? What will the theme be? And where do you get all these models for your shoots? are you giving them brownies to bribe them into hours of no, pose again,, nope that was not what I wanted, try it again.. wait,, the lights all wrong, pose again....................:scratch:scratch:scratch: scratch:D

Kat

Llywellyn

Jun-11-2009, 03:30 PM

No shoots in the immediate future as I'm preparing to head out of the country in a few weeks and won't have time to process model shots before I leave. :D Most of the models contact me for mutually beneficial portfolio goodness, so no bribes needed. :deal

Katmitchell

Jun-11-2009, 04:02 PM

Well isn't that convenient....:wink

My brother's wife is an ex model.. I want to try and get her to work with me sometime in the future... I have seen a lot of snow white endeavors, especially on diviantart, and I really want to try and pull one of those off one day.... :rofl

Have a safe journey...Kat:thumb

nightpixels

Jun-11-2009, 09:13 PM

Hi Kerry,

I just uploaded my entry but for some reason its size was reduced more than it normally gets reduced. I saved it like I always do, 800 pixels along the longest side. It came out OK under my own gallery as you can see it if you click on the Exif link that I have provided under the caption. Any idea why the size of the uploaded version got reduced like this?

my entry is called "One Basket of Flowers for Every Fallen Hero"

Llywellyn

Jun-12-2009, 03:56 AM

I just uploaded my entry but for some reason its size was reduced more than it normally gets reduced.

How odd. The photo wasn't reduced, but for some reason wasn't filling the SmugMug "frame." It also affected the entry after yours. Looks like it was just a glitch, and I've fixed both entries, but I'll keep an eye on it to see if it's something bigger.

MarkR

Jun-12-2009, 04:07 AM

nightpixels

Jun-12-2009, 06:01 PM

How odd. The photo wasn't reduced, but for some reason wasn't filling the SmugMug "frame." It also affected the entry after yours. Looks like it was just a glitch, and I've fixed both entries, but I'll keep an eye on it to see if it's something bigger.

Hi Kerry,

Thanks for fixing it. It is funny because I fixed a minor thing in my photo and uploaded a new version and it did it again. I would appreciate it if you could fix this one too, thank you!

Llywellyn

Jun-12-2009, 06:43 PM

Hi Kerry,

Thanks for fixing it. It is funny because I fixed a minor thing in my photo and uploaded a new version and it did it again. I would appreciate it if you could fix this one too, thank you!

Could you humor me and try a different uploader? And let me know which uploader you used for the past two images? It will help pinpoint where we need to look for the issue.

nightpixels

Jun-12-2009, 07:23 PM

Could you humor me and try a different uploader? And let me know which uploader you used for the past two images? It will help pinpoint where we need to look for the issue.
I used the simple uploader (the drag and drop one) like I always do. The thing is it works when I upload it under my personal galleries (doing it the same exact way), for some reason it's just the DSS gallery that is giving it problems.

dnie

Jun-12-2009, 08:32 PM

I used the simple uploader (the drag and drop one) like I always do. The thing is it works when I upload it under my personal galleries (doing it the same exact way), for some reason it's just the DSS gallery that is giving it problems.

Huh, when I uploaded mine today I couldn't get the simple uploader to work at all. Figured it was just me... probably was.

nightpixels

Jun-14-2009, 02:36 PM

pyry

Jun-14-2009, 03:34 PM

Have there been more entries before than there are in this round? I am still fairly new to Dgrin, but it looks like this round has drawn more people than the previous challenges have (north of 70 so far). This is good news! :thumb

Indeed!

I think the numbers have been a little lower than usual lately, but it would seem things are picking up again :D

A quick look into the entry galleries/threads and previous discussions gave me:

round 8 (weathered or polished): 91 entries
round 14 (still life)(SOOC): 88 entries
round 9 (dusk or dawn)(SOOC): 83 entries
round 20 (chaos or serenity)(B&W): 82 entries

Greensquared

Jun-14-2009, 05:48 PM

Llywellyn

Jun-14-2009, 05:54 PM

Folks seem to really turn out for the B&W and SOOC rounds. Hm... :evil

jasonstone

Jun-14-2009, 11:26 PM

Damn it - so busy and didn't read this until today last day

I keep thinking - "There can be only one!" but i'm not sure how i can get a photo with a whole lot of decapitated people in it - well certainly not one straight out of camera :wink alas my PS skills are not up to it

btw - Pratchett rules :clap

pyry

Jun-15-2009, 02:34 AM

Folks seem to really turn out for the B&W and SOOC rounds. Hm... :evil

Hey! Colour composites are good fun. :D

Not saying there shouldn't be any of these special rounds, in fact, I'd like to see tonings when monochrome comes around again.

Llywellyn

Jun-15-2009, 04:00 AM

And another great round comes to an end. Stay tuned! :D

Llywellyn

Jun-15-2009, 05:13 AM

Eight DQs this round. That hurts. :cry

Stripped EXIF or "Date Taken" missing from EXIF: ClaireJ, Frenchfx, dreamcometrue, and Sunita.

Taken outside the challenge period: busrama1, JenH2008, and LisaRhinehart.

And an anonymous entry, taken outside the challenge period:
http://challenges.smugmug.com/photos/560968697_mKQEo-Th.jpg

I highly recommend rolling over your image after you upload it to a challenge gallery and clicking "Photo Info" to ensure your EXIF is showing correctly.

Flyinggina

Jun-15-2009, 05:37 AM

Oh noooooo. :cry:cry

I hate to see entries get disqualified.

And so many this time. :dunno

It is absolutely the hardest way to learn the rules.

Hope everyone comes back for the next challenge. We want everyone's entries!!

Virginia

Llywellyn

Jun-15-2009, 08:07 AM

bf2015

Jun-15-2009, 10:22 AM

Well, every so often things cross the line and other times they stand right on it, precariously, or even tow it a little. We've long had the guideline here in the challenges that no nudity is allowed and anything implied would be handled case by case by your beloved mods (ahem). The guideline that's been posted in several threads and answered repeatedly in PMs is "If it belongs in the Go Figure (http://www.dgrin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=50) forum, it does not belong in the challenges."

After much discussion, MikeyRocks's entry will be disqualified. Please note that personally we do not have an issue with the image; in fact, it's part of why we created the Go Figure forum here on DGrin. If this image had been posted in the People forum, we would have moved it into Go Figure.

Because this question has come up several times, we've upgraded the guideline to a rule and updated the rules (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=129425) accordingly. We'll still make the call case by case when needed, but hopefully this update will help in the future.

Firstly, Kerry, in regards to MikeyRocks's dq'd shot, I have no problem with you or you having to make the tough decision to dq it because you are just doing what any mod would have to do. You are right; it is a fine line, and I have no issues with you or the rules. So I want to make it clear that I am not "bashing" you for having to dq it.

All I will say is that art is art and MikeyRocks's entry was tastefully done and shows no more nudity than a bathing suit shot or even the multitude of maternity shots throughout these challenges. Yes it pushes the boundries. Network TV (the tamest of all media) would have no problem showing that image (remember Deme Moore's maternity photo?) I would assume that an image that pushes the bounds of nudity would be considered offensive, yet in the smiles page of these post replies, there are smiles of raising the B.S. flag, a smile of someone shooting someone with an assault rifle, multiple smiles of giving the finger, and even one nude smile of a rear-end. :scratch

It was a beautiful capture and conversion, and I'm sorry to see that it was DQ'd. It remains in my fav 10 in the unofficial feedback thread, and since it is dq'd, I now only have a fav 9. :nah

Brian

sunita

Jun-15-2009, 11:17 AM

pyry

Jun-15-2009, 11:50 AM

Oh, dear - that's too bad. I didn't realize the EXIF info. was not showing up. I tried to find a way to directly link the photo from my smugmug gallery and couldn't figure it out. Actually, I've been having trouble linking photos from my gallery into the mini challenges as well.
So, I originally uploaded the photo here (http://sunita.smugmug.com/gallery/8547893_z6b6p#563290315_YtSDK), downloaded a copy onto my laptop and then uploaded it from there. Oh, well..

Sunita

That's actually a nearly sure fire way to kill the metadata. Smugmug strips it and shows the info from a database. You can however do it this way as long as you use the 'Owner save' link - that should have everything untouched.

Tango

Jun-15-2009, 11:58 AM

I would assume that an image that pushes the bounds of nudity would be considered offensive, yet in the smiles page of these post replies, there are smiles of raising the B.S. flag, a smile of someone shooting someone with an assault rifle, multiple smiles of giving the finger, and even one nude smile of a rear-end. :scratch

Brian

i understand the rule. i guess i just dont understand why its there...
if it can be on dgrin (even go figure) why not the challenges.

its strange how nudity is singled out in general.... personally i found many entries here in the past far more offensive.

my favorite is explaining (one of the thumbnails up top) to my son (whom was looking over my shoulder) why there is a man holding a gun to his head with tears in his eyes...

what is offensive in society sure is odd IMO.

bf2015

Jun-15-2009, 12:01 PM

:agree :thumb

sunita

Jun-15-2009, 12:10 PM

Thanks, pyry. Will keep this in mind for future challenges.

whiterice

Jun-15-2009, 12:10 PM

:agree with AaronNelson

jasonstone

Jun-15-2009, 12:30 PM

:agree

absolutely agree - didn't find anything offensive about the image
a gun to a head - wouldn't no where to start explaining that to my kid

Flyinggina

Jun-15-2009, 12:53 PM

FWIW, I did not find MikeyRock's entry at all offensive. It shows less skin and no more curves than many of the maternity shots on the People forum. Moreover, although I haven't checked it out, I think that many of the "implied" mude shots that stay in the People forum show more skin than this one, though maybe the models are not so well endowed.

Oh well. It was a clever, well executed entry with a title that made me laugh.

Virginia

PS - Not arguing with the mods, just sayin' .........

Llywellyn

Jun-15-2009, 01:06 PM

Please know such images will always be handled on a case-by-case basis. The fine line we're balancing on is art vs. family-friendly content, and it's like walking a tight-rope: easily (and validly) swayed from side to side.

This decision was not made lightly nor easily. The decision stands, but the door isn't closed. There's just that tight-rope-like line there, and it's really frakkin' hard to balance on.

To answer Aaron's question, the challenges are public and the Go Figure forum needs to be opted in to (a small roadblock, but it's there). That's the key difference.

Katmitchell

Jun-15-2009, 01:32 PM

You know the moment I saw that photo I thought to myself, it is gonna get axed... your just doing your job, and that is a good thing keeping this place consistent, clean and balanced. it can't be easy.. but I am sure it is appreciated by many families with kids, mine included. Everyone says it showed no more than a bathing suit, but then they have to consider the way it was shot too,, it was suggestive with the angle it was shot at. So I see where you and the other authorities were coming from Kerry.. As adults we may be desensitized to this, but they are trying to keep entire families who upload and visit smugmug regularly in mind.. So, I personally stand in their defense and appreciate that they have am actual "standard" we can rely on...

That aside.. I will say, it was a gorgeous and well shot image. It was tasteful on an "adult" level... for adult eyes.. and the message was well conveyed with a woman being imprisoned in a bra all the time... I thought it was witty and the lighting on the shot was very skillful too...:thumb

Kat

P.S. I can't for the life of me figure out why people don't just run an image by you first on the board when in doubt before entering... ????? Seems simple enough.

Llywellyn

Jun-15-2009, 02:58 PM

I can't for the life of me figure out why people don't just run an image by you first on the board when in doubt before entering... ????? Seems simple enough.

Ack, nothing would ever get done or posted if we started that! :twitch Honestly, I agonize over every decision in an effort to be as fair and open-minded as possible. I don't think I'd make up my mind in time before a challenge period ended if we started down that road.

Thankfully, this isn't the only challenge. There are more challenges to come, which means more opportunities.

KevXman

Jun-16-2009, 06:07 AM

Kerry,
I'm sure that DQing MikeyRocks' image was no easy decision and when you have the best interests of the forum in mind you will always have my full support, whether I agree with you or not. Being a Mod is not an easy job and your service is greatly appreciated.

I noticed that the photo in question has been pulled from the challenge entry thread. Has it been posted somewhere else so that we might view it?

Llywellyn

Jun-16-2009, 08:04 AM

I noticed that the photo in question has been pulled from the challenge entry thread. Has it been posted somewhere else so that we might view it?

I move all DQ'd entries out of the main gallery to avoid confusing judges. DQs for this round can be seen here for a short while (eventually the gallery will be deleted): http://challenges.smugmug.com/gallery/8565015_vekK3#555949576_fVy8j

MikeyRocks

Jun-16-2009, 07:39 PM

It's disappointing to see my entry get disqualified, especially since I read (and re-read) the rules until my eyes bled and saw nothing in regards to nudity. I know it was mentioned this rule has been in "other threads" and in "private messages" but in the challenge rules, this was not listed. I see that those in charge have kindly corrected this.

The photo was my first entry into any contest whatsoever and my whole reason for this is to share a work that I am proud of... I could care less about winning but for the judges to weed out my photo out for disqualification feels like a punch to the gut.

I won't bother questioning why the judges deemed my photo was "crossing the line" on the basis of implied nudity when the photo of the pregnant woman/lady right before my photo was not DQ'd as well. Would my photo be legit/unoffensive if my subject had a pregnant belly? To sum up, my photo had no direct nudity and the subject was not posed in a sexual manner.

I know it was mentioned that the main reason is because you are trying to keep DGrin "family-friendly." I guess the next time I take my son or daughter to see Michaelangelo's Statue of David is when they're 18, because his penis (am I not allowed to say that, either?) is not "family-friendly."

Censorship is what prevents real art from being shown to the masses. It is the true enemy of expression. Keep the forum (and dgrin) about spreading a form of art. Not stifling it.

If you wish to view the photo, I'll be posting it on my website by tomorrow: http://www.mikeyrocks.net