View Full Version : NEW: Easy Customizer!
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 01:33 PM
This has us SO excited :D Customize a SmugMug site in minutes, change the text, colors, header, footer, boxes, make a navbar and more.... you bet!
Go to your Tools Button on homepage or category, or in your customize tab of your control panel, and click 'Easy Customizer' -- Go ahead, try it :evil
You can preview your site design right there, and get it just the way you want before you commit it. Don't like it? Nuke it and start over :)
http://img.skitch.com/20090430-kshnfe5ky73823qg2gmwbsa6b9.jpg
You'll notice that we create a new gallery for you when you use this:
> Other > My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete)
It's unlisted, only you can see it. Don't delete it.
We've given this a whole lot of testing, with new sites, with old sites, with sites that have customizing and that don't. We want you to try it now! Let us know how it works. Got ideas for it? Bring 'em right here, we want to hear them!
Using Easy Customizer won't overwrite any of your existing customizing that you have in your site-wide customizing area (cobrand.mg) but customizations done via the Easy Customizer may trump (overpower) some of your site-wide customizing. Remember, this tool was built for the most part, for folks to start out with fast, and get a header, navbar, colors, fonts, etc.
We expect that homepage slideshow will be made easy to install, too :D Hang in there.
If you have Advanced site-wide customizing in place you should make copies of all your code in plain text document form, before making any changes to your site. It's just good practice. Update, May 8, 2009: Use the new Email It! Button in your advanced site-wide customizing page!
UDATE MAY 8th 2009:
Updated Help Pages:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/create-photo-album2 (pro)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/create-photo-album (power)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors2 (pro)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors (power)
And the basic FAQ got updated, too: http://smugmug.com/help/customize-faq
More updates:
If you make a change to background color, page title, show smugmug header/footer in CoBrand, the change will also show up in EZC. This prevents the EZC from overwriting a change you made in CoBrand.
Added the ability to choose Feeds on/off.
Added Help link to mini footer and make it configurable.
Removed "Powered by SmugMug" From the page title for Pros, when you use a custom page title.
More coming but these were the really important help pags to get fixed. :smo
We really want your comments, and requests, too. Thanks and we hope you love it!
ivar
Apr-30-2009, 01:35 PM
:clap :clap :clap
:barb
fredjclaus
Apr-30-2009, 03:46 PM
Oh my Gosh!!!!! This is AWSOME!!!! I was playing around a bit and like what I see so far. it seems this will help me to lay out my site to look more like a website instead of just a photo album page.
I don't know if it's already there, but is there a way to set this up so we can put a slide show on the home pages istead of the gallaries?
I love the fact that I can build my nav bar in this. The instructions even though they were clear, are still a bit confusing for me. One thing I need to know is how to make a contact me page and a page that would show the different services I have.
This would be so awsome. I could get rid of my DotEasy.com hosted webpage and use strictly my SmugMug hosted site.
Thanks Andy.
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 03:50 PM
I don't know if it's already there, but is there a way to set this up so we can put a slide show on the home pages istead of the gallaries?
We expect that homepage slideshow will be made easy to install, too :D Hang in there.
For now, use the easy tutorial to put the slideshow on your homepage: http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/3624147
I love the fact that I can build my nav bar in this. The instructions even though they were clear, are still a bit confusing for me.
What's unclear about them? :ear
One thing I need to know is how to make a contact me page and a page that would show the different services I have.
Follow my easy instructions on http://andydemo.smugmug.com (see the how to and about links).
LCKatMPN
Apr-30-2009, 05:34 PM
We expect that homepage slideshow will be made easy to install, too :D Hang in there.
For now, use the easy tutorial to put the slideshow on your homepage: http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/3624147
What's unclear about them? :ear
Follow my easy instructions on http://andydemo.smugmug.com (see the how to and about links).
Wow. I mean, WOW!
Worth the happy faces and all those pats on the back.
Help me out here, now that I see how so much of this works.
How about doing separate pages?
I know there's been links to information for that in the past, but what's the best way to do that now?
Thanks!
fredjclaus
Apr-30-2009, 05:35 PM
One more question for you Andy. I'm getting the hang of this and it's pretty simple. You are just creating gallaries and then linking them all together. If I create a nav bar and then add some more pages, will I have to create another entire nav bar, or if I go to the Easy Customizer and say create Nav bar, will the old one show up for me to just add to it?
Barb
Apr-30-2009, 05:38 PM
One more question for you Andy. I'm getting the hang of this and it's pretty simple. You are just creating gallaries and then linking them all together. If I create a nav bar and then add some more pages, will I have to create another entire nav bar, or if I go to the Easy Customizer and say create Nav bar, will the old one show up for me to just add to it?
Hi :)
The navbar you have created with the EZ Customizer will be there, and you can easily add to it, remove, etc., from within the EZ Customizer.
mlee
Apr-30-2009, 05:45 PM
Wow.
"No SmugMug Footer"
You guys are really moving towards catering to the pros with more invisibility!
Thanks, again, for such an amazing service!
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 05:54 PM
You guys are really moving towards catering to the pros with more invisibility!
:D
MichaelBrown
Apr-30-2009, 06:33 PM
I went in to remove the SM footer, but .....
I hesitate doing anything because of the message that I get after clicking "Publish", the message saying that some of my current settings may be overwritten.
How could one possibly know if their current settings would be overwritten?
Is there "Easy Button" reset if things are changed that you do not want changed?
Just curious.
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
agallia
Apr-30-2009, 06:41 PM
Awesome tool! Getting ready to give it a try too.:clap
mlee
Apr-30-2009, 06:48 PM
Feedback / Comments!?!?
I've played with it for about an hour now and I really like it - great job! I can't wait to try it some more later on when I have some play time.
Just two nit-picks so far...
-The favicon doesn't allow uploading of .ico files...?
-Custom Footer -> Text doesn't allow HTML. Well, it does but it displays the code. I'd like to put in HTML so I can have more than one link.
Barb
Apr-30-2009, 07:10 PM
Feedback / Comments!?!?
I've played with it for about an hour now and I really like it - great job! I can't wait to try it some more later on when I have some play time.
Just two nit-picks so far...
-The favicon doesn't allow uploading of .ico files...?
-Custom Footer -> Text doesn't allow HTML. Well, it does but it displays the code. I'd like to put in HTML so I can have more than one link.
You can upload a .gif file for the favicon. It will work in most browsers. IE doesn't like favicons all the time. If you want to use an .ico file, you can upload it somewhere, like Google Pages or something, and link to it in your advanced customization: No. 41 here: http://www.smugmug.com/help/customize-faq.
You can still add an HTML footer in the custom footer box in your advanced site-wide customization.
J Allen
Apr-30-2009, 07:18 PM
I played with this a bit, just made one change to the footer, and it has over-ridden all the font rules in my css...If I open the web-div in firefox, I can see where it threw these things in there..and every rule it inserted now has an !important tag with it.....But I cant see these rules to remove them in my CSS box...Any way to just go back to my original settings? I tried all the "go-back" buttons, but they didnt work after I already published it. :scratch
wellman
Apr-30-2009, 07:22 PM
Two words... Su. Weet. :D
fredjclaus
Apr-30-2009, 07:25 PM
Is there something wrong with Smugmug? Did I break it? I was updating and trying to put the slide show on my home page and it just logged me out now i can't log back in.
aaronbrown
Apr-30-2009, 07:45 PM
You can upload a .gif file for the favicon. It will work in most browsers. IE doesn't like favicons all the time. If you want to use an .ico file, you can upload it somewhere, like Google Pages or something, and link to it in your advanced customization: No. 41 here: http://www.smugmug.com/help/customize-faq.
You can still add an HTML footer in the custom footer box in your advanced site-wide customization.
It seems this new option of No SmugMug Footer has also done away with our feeds link.
Maybe there should be code to insert the feed link into our custom footer?
Maybe there should be an option to keep the mini footer for those who want it, as well.
And it seems with everyone playing with this, a lot of people may seriously mess up their old settings.
Any chance of a backup option for our site css et al. or a revert option?
Any thoughts, Barb or Andy?
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 07:47 PM
Maybe there should be an option to keep the mini footer for those who want it, as well.
There is.
https://img.skitch.com/20111226-c2sk39yx3twuetn8b9n2erxg99.jpg
LCKatMPN
Apr-30-2009, 07:51 PM
QUESTION: If I set a new banner, it appears in Preview above the old banner. If I publish, does it get rid of the old banner, or do I have to go back into my customization page and remove the old coding? I'm hesitant to "experiment" and then loose things (although I did copy my coding in a backup file)
aaronbrown
Apr-30-2009, 08:11 PM
There is.
https://img.skitch.com/20111226-c2sk39yx3twuetn8b9n2erxg99.jpg
Ah, I see.
I'm not trying to be such a "Debby Downer" here, but it just seems counter intuitive for this option to be missing from the advanced customization menu. And it just feels like there's a loss of control when the changes made here aren't tweakable from the advanced customization menu or don't even appear there.
I would think these two menus would work in tandem and not so against each other, unless I'm missing something here.
Any plan to implement the feeds again, or should we just hard code them back as we please?
Again, just trying to figure this thing out... not complain about the cool things you're all trying to give us.
MichaelBrown
Apr-30-2009, 08:17 PM
I asked early on if I made a change to the SM footer, would changes occur to my customization.
I'm glad now that I did not touch it, since others are finding out the hard way it seems!
So again, ... how can anyone be sure that their customizations want be overwritten?
Michael
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 08:17 PM
but it just seems counter intuitive for this option to be missing from the advanced customization menu.
Give us some time, eh? :D
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 08:19 PM
I asked early on if I made a change to the SM footer, would changes occur to my customization.
I'm glad now that I did not touch it, since others are finding out the hard way it seems!
So again, ... how can anyone be sure that their customizations want be overwritten?
MichaelHi Michael, My first post says that some things in your site-wide customizing may be 'overpowered' but you can always nuke your easy customizing if you don't like what you see. Also that this tool is primarily designed to be used before any advanced customizing.
AS ALWAYS FOLKS, it's great to make a backup of your customizing and put it in a notepad, plaintext file and save it. :deal
LCKatMPN
Apr-30-2009, 08:19 PM
Ah, I see.
I'm not trying to be such a "Debby Downer" here, but it just seems counter intuitive for this option to be missing from the advanced customization menu. And it just feels like there's a loss of control when the changes made here aren't tweakable from the advanced customization menu or don't even appear there.
I would think these two menus would work in tandem and not so against each other, unless I'm missing something here.
Any plan to implement the feeds again, or should we just hard code them back as we please?
Again, just trying to figure this thing out... not complain about the cool things you're all trying to give us.
Do the two menus work together?
If I use Easy Optimzer, then need to go back to where I was, can I just re-enter my codes (which I saved into a Word document) back into the Advanced Customizer page? Then I can "erase" what I attempted to do with Easy Optimzer?
aaronbrown
Apr-30-2009, 08:24 PM
Give us some time, eh? :D
Will do. Just trying to point out what I've noticed so far.
cmason
Apr-30-2009, 08:28 PM
Looks interesting, but I would rather not futz up my site while trying this out. Does this customize a gallery or the entire site?
aaronbrown
Apr-30-2009, 08:30 PM
Using Easy Customizer won't overwrite any of your existing customizing that you have in your site-wide customizing area (cobrand.mg) but customizations done via the Easy Customizer may trump (overpower) some of your site-wide customizing.
It see it actually DOES overwrite the Page Title, but that's a cinch to fix.
fredjclaus
Apr-30-2009, 08:37 PM
Oh my gosh, Andy. This is a great program for us pro users. I'm still playing with the site to get my look just right, but I'm having a blast. I think once my hosting account with my current service is up, I'm going to be using SmugMug as a host. Just need a better logo that will show up on black.
BenA2
Apr-30-2009, 08:50 PM
Awesome job SmugMug!
colourbox
Apr-30-2009, 09:21 PM
We really want your comments...
I just posted the other week how Smugmug should have a visual customizer for common customizations, like Squarespace. So my comment is...
THIS IS AWESOME. :thumb :bow
Even if it isn't perfect or all-encompassing, the fact that you were going in this direction at all just reinforces why I stick with Smugmug.
I haven't played with it that long yet, but hopefully we will someday get drag-and-drop resizable layout components, automatic multiple columns, and maybe the built-in ability to use an HTML-only page template that doesn't require hijacking the gallery engine with CSS overrides!
great work!
Andy
Apr-30-2009, 09:26 PM
but hopefully we will someday get drag-and-drop resizable layout components, automatic multiple columns,
Our sorcerers are threatening to do this one day :deal
mlee
Apr-30-2009, 09:46 PM
You can upload a .gif file for the favicon. It will work in most browsers. IE doesn't like favicons all the time. If you want to use an .ico file, you can upload it somewhere, like Google Pages or something, and link to it in your advanced customization: No. 41 here: http://www.smugmug.com/help/customize-faq.
You can still add an HTML footer in the custom footer box in your advanced site-wide customization.
Yeah, I've done both of these things I'm just saying it'd be nice if this could be incorporated in a future update, that's all.
Great job so far - I really like it!
Mike
TalkieT
May-01-2009, 01:54 AM
:D
Just to confirm Andy, this means we are now allowed to hide the "Powered by Smugmug" completely? Woohoo :-)
I mean it's no foreign currency support, but this does look very, very cool!
Cheers - N
MichaelBrown
May-01-2009, 04:51 AM
So guys, ... is there now a easy way for one to remove the SM footer without having to use the new customizer to do it?
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
Andy
May-01-2009, 06:56 AM
So guys, ... is there now a easy way for one to remove the SM footer without having to use the new customizer to do it?
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
It's rather easy - just go to Easy Customizer, choose Footer, and no SmugMug footer, and publish :D
We'll make it an option in Advanced Sitewide customizing, also.
Andy
May-01-2009, 06:56 AM
Just to confirm Andy, this means we are now allowed to hide the "Powered by Smugmug" completely?
Yes.
Erick L
May-01-2009, 07:11 AM
It's rather easy - just go to Easy Customizer, choose Footer, and no SmugMug footer, and publish :D
I did that and my homepage is pretty messed up. Is there a way to go back?
Thanks
MichaelBrown
May-01-2009, 07:16 AM
Thanks Andy!
The reason why I was asking, was that others have reported that when they made those changes to the footer using the Easy Customizer, other things got changed around with their site, which is something that I did not want to deal with.
Just looking for a overall quick and easier way of doing it, ... that's all.
Thanks again,
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
It's rather easy - just go to Easy Customizer, choose Footer, and no SmugMug footer, and publish :D
We'll make it an option in Advanced Sitewide customizing, also.
Erick L
May-01-2009, 07:30 AM
It's not working at all for me. I just choose "No Smugmug footer" and published and that messed my homepage. I brought back the color for the homepage and now the whole site is messed up. My photos have borders, mysterious borders are appearing.
How do I "undo" this?
armani
May-01-2009, 07:48 AM
Ok, this was not a good idea.
I just changed background color with the easy customizer but now i lost some customization.
How can i get back to the situation before the change?
armani
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 09:00 AM
At first I was like WOW cool! I can see stuff as I change it... SO all I did was change my fonts... and then stuff that I had previously cleaned up appeared again why! :scratch
That being said I tried the old codes to remove the stuff again - and it's not working for some reason? what did I do wrong....
First I am trying to remove the feeds at the bottom of the page...
2nd the home/login}login search box and cart up top on the right.
Also my fonts are extremely small or is it just me?
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 09:28 AM
At first I was like WOW cool! I can see stuff as I change it... SO all I did was change my fonts... and then stuff that I had previously cleaned up appeared again why! :scratch
That being said I tried the old codes to remove the stuff again - and it's not working for some reason? what did I do wrong....
First I am trying to remove the feeds at the bottom of the page...
2nd the home/login}login search box and cart up top on the right.
Also my fonts are extremely small or is it just me?
Never mind LOL I took the time to browse more and found where to unclick them options sorry!:barb
Andy
May-01-2009, 09:35 AM
It's not working at all for me. I just choose "No Smugmug footer" and published and that messed my homepage. I brought back the color for the homepage and now the whole site is messed up. My photos have borders, mysterious borders are appearing.
How do I "undo" this?Use the 'Start Over' button, Erick.
http://img.skitch.com/20090501-3fct7jthbr71e51nfh2gy2anh.jpg
Andy
May-01-2009, 09:38 AM
How can i get back to the situation before the change?
armaniYou already had extensive customizing in the Advanced Customization - it's all still there :D
Go to Easy Customizer and choose the "Start Over" button.
http://img.skitch.com/20090501-3fct7jthbr71e51nfh2gy2anh.jpg
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 09:48 AM
My fonts are now smaller, I know you change the font type but what about the size?
Hrmm I just pulled up my site on Explorer did I change something on firefox??
Andy
May-01-2009, 09:58 AM
My fonts are now smaller, I know you change the font type but what about the size?
Hrmm I just pulled up my site on Explorer did I change something on firefox??
In the Easy Customizer, which section? Header, footer, navbar? :ear
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 10:14 AM
In the Easy Customizer, which section? Header, footer, navbar? :ear
Well I changed all fonts to the same thing for Header,Footer and navbar too - I noticed the font is fine in explorer but when I pull it up on firefox it's too small. maybe it's just me?
Andy
May-01-2009, 10:17 AM
Well I changed all fonts to the same thing for Header,Footer and navbar too - I noticed the font is fine in explorer but when I pull it up on firefox it's too small. maybe it's just me?
Try using View>Zoom>Reset in Firefox, maybe you have your fonts smallified?
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 10:28 AM
Try using View>Zoom>Reset in Firefox, maybe you have your fonts smallified?
LOL! I told you :rofl
Ok yeah that works now, I feel kind of silly now... Ok another question since I seem to have lost some of my old settings...
I put:
function delHover() {
imgTags = document.getElementsByTagName("img");
for (i=0; i<imgTags.length; i++) {
imgTags[i].title = "";
imgTags[i].alt = "";
}
}
tops javascript
and
<body onload="delHover();">
Under bottom javascript
I want to remove the hovering text again... Its not working tho.
elizabeth_Luna
May-01-2009, 11:26 AM
LOL! I told you :rofl
Ok yeah that works now, I feel kind of silly now... Ok another question since I seem to have lost some of my old settings...
I put:
function delHover() {
imgTags = document.getElementsByTagName("img");
for (i=0; i<imgTags.length; i++) {
imgTags[i].title = "";
imgTags[i].alt = "";
}
}
tops javascript
and
<body onload="delHover();">
Under bottom javascript
I want to remove the hovering text again... Its not working tho.
Ok after doing some more tweaking got it to work...
I put:
function delHover() {
imgTags = document.getElementsByTagName("img");
for (i=0; i<imgTags.length; i++) {
imgTags[i].title = "";
imgTags[i].alt = "";
}
}
Under top javaScript
and code:
<body onload="delHover();">
Under Body Tag
armani
May-01-2009, 11:34 AM
You already had extensive customizing in the Advanced Customization - it's all still there :D
Go to Easy Customizer and choose the "Start Over" button.
http://img.skitch.com/20090501-3fct7jthbr71e51nfh2gy2anh.jpg
Andy,
That is what i did but i still lost some customization.
I contacted customer sevice but they keep sending me the same message about the "start over" button.
BTW i get a weird message in my browser when using the "start over" button en choose the "start from scratch" option : "status":"success","msg":[]}
Is there really no other way to get back to the situation before using the easy customizer?
Andy
May-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Is there really no other way to get back to the situation before using the easy customizer?
Sure, Barb will email you later today and help.
Awais Yaqub
May-01-2009, 11:47 AM
:ivar:ivar:ivar:ivar:ivar:ivar:ivar:ivar
Was wondering what to do on net tonight
:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:t humb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb
armani
May-01-2009, 11:47 AM
Sure, Barb will email you later today and help.
Ok, thanks Andy.
timnosenzo
May-01-2009, 12:52 PM
Very cool feature guys! :thumb
Stacey L
May-01-2009, 01:03 PM
I'm giving this a try and wanted to remove all my old code (I saved it to reinstall later), but I'm getting an All Pages Theme I selected may be affecting my customization. What All pages theme? I'm using default theme. Dont' know where all pages is to take it off.
www.staceylewisphotography.com
denisegoldberg
May-01-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm giving this a try and wanted to remove all my old code (I saved it to reinstall later), but I'm getting an All Pages Theme I selected may be affecting my customization. What All pages theme? I'm using default theme. Dont' know where all pages is to take it off.
Your site is using the Black & White theme, not the default.
See http://www.smugmug.com/help/apply-themes.
--- Denise
Stacey L
May-01-2009, 02:05 PM
Got it. Thanks! I was only updating my theme on my homepage.
Your site is using the Black & White theme, not the default.
See http://www.smugmug.com/help/apply-themes.
--- Denise
Barb
May-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Andy,
That is what i did but i still lost some customization.
I contacted customer sevice but they keep sending me the same message about the "start over" button.
BTW i get a weird message in my browser when using the "start over" button en choose the "start from scratch" option : "status":"success","msg":[]}
Is there really no other way to get back to the situation before using the easy customizer?
Hi :)
I sent you an email. Will wait to hear back from you :)
bstrong
May-01-2009, 02:54 PM
Andy,
That is what i did but i still lost some customization.
I contacted customer sevice but they keep sending me the same message about the "start over" button.
BTW i get a weird message in my browser when using the "start over" button en choose the "start from scratch" option : "status":"success","msg":[]}
Is there really no other way to get back to the situation before using the easy customizer?
armani,
When you used the "Start Over" feature what previous customizations did you lose? As for that strange message your are seeing, it looks like you may have uncovered a bug. I can't reproduce it but I have a good idea what's happening and a fix is already in progress. By the way, what browser are you using?
As of right now, this is the only way to remove the easy customizations.
We'll get these issues ironed out!
Thanks!
-Brian
nphaskins
May-01-2009, 03:15 PM
2 years I've been waiting for this! I was a Smugmugger when I started my photo biz, but quickly found something else without branding on it. When my Pictage membership runs out, I'm definitely coming back to Smugmug now!
This rocks...and is definitely going to reap major benefits for you guys. So many more folks are going to join now.
bstrong
May-01-2009, 03:32 PM
I asked early on if I made a change to the SM footer, would changes occur to my customization.
I'm glad now that I did not touch it, since others are finding out the hard way it seems!
So again, ... how can anyone be sure that their customizations want be overwritten?
Michael
Hi Michael,
The Easy Customizer works with the Advanced Customizations fields in the following ways:
Page Title: Easy Customizer will overwrite the value in this field.
Background Color (Theme color): Easy Customizer will overwrite the value in this field.
CSS: Easy Customizer will not touch this field. The CSS generated with the Easy Customizer will placed BEFORE your own custom CSS so it should cascade properly. However, EZC CSS still may override (in terms of how the browser displays your page) your own CSS if there is overlap and depending on how your CSS is written. You should always beable to override the Easy Custoimizer CSS by using the "!important" CSS declaration.
Top javascript: EZC will not touch this field.
Head Tag: EZC will not touch this field.
Body Tag: EZC will not touch this field.
Display SmugMug Header: EZC will overwrite the value in this field.
Custom Header: EZC will not touch this field. Your custom header will be displayed below your EZC custom header.
Display SmugMug Footer: EZC will overwrite the value in this field.
Custom Footer: EZC will not touch this field. Your custom footer will be displayed below your EZC custom footer.
Bottom javascript: EZC will not touch this field.I hope this helps!
-Brian
bstrong
May-01-2009, 03:44 PM
QUESTION: If I set a new banner, it appears in Preview above the old banner. If I publish, does it get rid of the old banner, or do I have to go back into my customization page and remove the old coding? I'm hesitant to "experiment" and then loose things (although I did copy my coding in a backup file)
The Easy Customizer will not touch the custom header you have in the Advanced Site Customization settings.
If you publish, it will be displayed as it is in the preview. If you only want the Easy Customizer banner, I would suggest removing the appropriate customizations from the Advanced Customization tool. Be sure you back up first just in case!
FYI, same thing applies for the custom footer.
I hope this helps!
-Brian
mrcoons
May-01-2009, 04:44 PM
:bow
Very Cool Smugmug!! Well Done.
Llywellyn
May-01-2009, 04:45 PM
Custom Footer: EZC will not touch this field. Your custom footer will be displayed below your EZC custom footer.
If you publish, it will be displayed as it is in the preview. ... FYI, same thing applies for the custom footer.
Here's my confusion: eliminating the Smug footer eliminates the RSS feeds link as well as my custom copyright statement in the EZC preview. I'd love to know if I can get rid of the Smug branding links in the footer while keeping RSS and my copyright statement. Preview says no, two statements above seem conflicting, I'm too scared to push the button... :uhoh
Andy
May-01-2009, 05:13 PM
Here's my confusion: eliminating the Smug footer eliminates the RSS feeds link as well as my custom copyright statement in the EZC preview. I'd love to know if I can get rid of the Smug branding links in the footer while keeping RSS and my copyright statement. Preview says no, two statements above seem conflicting, I'm too scared to push the button... :uhohBrian's gonna make a choice to allow the nuking of the footer but keeping the feeds. Stay tuned and don't be scared, you can always revert :D
MichaelBrown
May-01-2009, 05:55 PM
Being quite honest, ... I'm still a bit scared to hit that button too! :D
Sure, there is a EZ "start over again" button, but if I want to get rid of the SM footer, then things get changed with my customization that I don't want, I simply click on that "start over again" button, and I'm back to square one.
Is this correct?
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
MichaelBrown
May-01-2009, 05:58 PM
Oh, ... and Brian, ... thanks for some of that very detailed info.
Will study it a bit further after another cup of coffee, ... or three.
Michael
rich56k
May-01-2009, 06:16 PM
Brian's gonna make a choice to allow the nuking of the footer but keeping the feeds. Stay tuned and don't be scared, you can always revert :D
How about this situation...
Currently in my footer (on all pages) I have:
1- my copyright info
2- 'made on an iMac' gif
3- statcounter display
I want to keep ALL of these items but remove just the mini-smug footer
how to accomplish this? - or wait for the update you mentioned...
thanks,
rich56k
Andy
May-01-2009, 06:16 PM
How about this situation...
Currently in my footer (on all pages) I have:
1- my copyright info
2- 'made on a mac' gif
3- statcounter display
I want to keep ALL of these items but remove just the mini-smug footer
how to accomplish this? - or wait for the update you mentioned...
thanks,
rich56k
Just go to Easy Customizer and remove the SmugMug footer. Publish and see :)
rich56k
May-01-2009, 06:23 PM
Just go to Easy Customizer and remove the SmugMug footer. Publish and see :)
OK that worked - very good! :thumb
However at the same time all my text went white (was black) yikes :cry
rich56k
May-01-2009, 06:34 PM
OK that worked - very good! :thumb
However at the same time all my text went white (was black) yikes :cry
Not only that...
I had to close safari and reopen - now it seems the only way to log back into my account is thru the smugmug home page !!?? :deal
not good at all - what am I missing??:scratch
Andy
May-01-2009, 06:38 PM
Not only that...
I had to close safari and reopen - now it seems the only way to log back into my account is thru the smugmug home page !!?? :deal
not good at all - what am I missing??:scratch
First of all, don't worry. Go and nuke your easy customizing and you'll be fine. Yes, if you remove the Smuggy footer, you'll need to login and out from www.smugmug.com.
rich56k
May-01-2009, 07:08 PM
First of all, don't worry. Go and nuke your easy customizing and you'll be fine. Yes, if you remove the Smuggy footer, you'll need to login and out from www.smugmug.com.
OK - so I nuked the settings and I got the attached (yikes - again!!)
EDIT: to remove the header, full footer and return the mini footer should do it...
again what am I missing...I tried numerous settings again to correct the 'nuked' back to square one version method: remove header, change texts color and remove full footer (which was never part of my original version??!!) etc and most of my internal gallery pages were all messed up (mostly color of text)
I'm getting scared :cry
help!!
aaronbrown
May-01-2009, 07:37 PM
So guys, ... is there now a easy way for one to remove the SM footer without having to use the new customizer to do it?
Michael
http://www.macroartinnature.com/
Andy said it's coming soon to the Advanced Customization menu, but for now I'm just using
#footer {display: none !important;}
so I can still have access to my feeds link without the headaches associated with the "easy" version.
rich56k
May-01-2009, 07:50 PM
OK - so I nuked the settings and I got the attached (yikes - again!!)
EDIT: to remove the header, full footer and return the mini footer should do it...
again what am I missing...I tried numerous settings again to correct the 'nuked' back to square one version method: remove header, change texts color and remove full footer (which was never part of my original version??!!) etc and most of my internal gallery pages were all messed up (mostly color of text)
I'm getting scared :cry
help!!
Now I think I've tried every possible combination to return to original version to no avail - have 'nuked' the EZC settings 5-6 times still have the header and full footer - to remove them causes multiple errors within my galleries and the text coloring...:cry :dunno :scratch :cry
please see image in post # 74
any ideas??
thanks,
rich
donutz
May-01-2009, 08:00 PM
I love the fact that I can build my nav bar in this.
Is it possible to add one more "canned" link to the Navigation Bar Builder? If I use this tool, I don't see a way to include the Login/Logout links in the nav bar without including both, which would be confusing. Maybe there could be a smart option that can tell whether you're logged in or not, and display the right verb for the link text?
richW
May-01-2009, 08:05 PM
Now I think I've tried every possible combination to return to original version to no avail - have 'nuked' the EZC settings 5-6 times still have the header and full footer - to remove them causes multiple errors within my galleries and the text coloring...:cry :dunno :scratch :cry
please see image in post # 74
any ideas??
thanks,
richIt looks like you have the banner image hard coded in the header section, that's why it remains.
If you want to add it using the customizer, remove it from the header section and use the customizer tools to add it back
You have the 'default' theme in the control panel set to 'Gradient Grey', your homepage is set to 'Gradient White' and the galleries have their own themes.
I suggest using only the default theme in the control panel, then use the customizer to make the needed changes.
Use the customizer to get the basic look you are needing. If you require a touch more customization, then use the 'Advanced Site-wide Customization' to fine tune as needed.
MichaelBrown
May-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Thanks a bunch Aaron. That is all that I was wanting to know!
It's a nice thing that SM is doing, ... still, ... I'll continue to wait a while before using any EZC since it seems a lot of you are having some confusing problems with it.
Got some editing to do, ... so goodnight gang!
Michael
Neuffy
May-01-2009, 08:14 PM
I'd just like to say thanks for this. I'll fiddle.
Edit: Nice. The branding removal is great - I'd much rather build in a "shipping info" page to mention what the packaging will look like then have text at the bottom (or, god forbid, top).
Still no way to vertically center the main page?
Andy
May-01-2009, 08:17 PM
Thanks a bunch Aaron. That is all that I was wanting to know!
It's a nice thing that SM is doing, ... still, ... I'll continue to wait a while before using any EZC since it seems a lot of you are having some confusing problems with it.
Got some editing to do, ... so goodnight gang!
MichaelFolks, please do read carefully my post #1 of this thread. And remember who this is designed for :D
If you have extensive customizing already in place it's probably not for you.
rich56k
May-01-2009, 08:25 PM
It looks like you have the banner image hard coded in the header section, that's why it remains.
If you want to add it using the customizer, remove it from the header section and use the customizer tools to add it back
You have the 'default' theme in the control panel set to 'Gradient Grey', your homepage is set to 'Gradient White' and the galleries have their own themes.
I suggest using only the default theme in the control panel, then use the customizer to make the needed changes.
Use the customizer to get the basic look you are needing. If you require a touch more customization, then use the 'Advanced Site-wide Customization' to fine tune as needed.
Rich,
Thanks for your reply, however it's way over my head!!
ex: banner hardcoded??? I want my banner just get rid of the smugmug header and full footer...
Andy had set my homepage to Gradient White some time ago - which was/is great - I just don't know how to do most of what you're telling me - now it sounds like I have to start all over just to return to original version and use the EZC on every page, gallery , etc... :cry
But the question remains: when I nuked the very minor changes I had tried - now I don't want to use the customizer for anything(!) orig plan was to just remove footer , when the result of that was the inability to log in without using smugmug home page (like anyone would opt for that!) :rolleyes
All kinds of mayhem insued - I must admit my frame of mind is way off now - what should have been a few minutes of testing is now a stay ay home allnite and relearn bunches of customizing code :cry :cry
Please isn't there an easy way to just go back where I was ??
rich
Andy
May-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Please isn't there an easy way to just go back where I was ??
We're gonna look at your code, Rich - but did you follow my instructions and save copies of everything?
EDIT: I'm looking at your site, and things look fine - specifically and exactly, what are the issues? :ear
rich56k
May-01-2009, 08:36 PM
We're gonna look at your code, Rich - but did you follow my instructions and save copies of everything?
EDIT: I'm looking at your site, specifically and exactly, what are the issues? :ear
OK - I just went in to advanced site wide cust. and looked over the settings and only changed background color from viewer controlled (which I've NEVER offered) to light then hit update and now all is back to normal??!!??!! All is OK again!!??!!:thumb :thumb :thumb
I dare to assume somebody at your end also did something?
Re: saving my code - no I didn't as I didn't realize/plan on touching anything in site wide settings - was that a mistake?
any how did you guys save me? or did my change do it?
either way THANK YOU!!
rich
Andy
May-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Re: saving my code - no I didn't
Folks. Keep copies of your code from your site wide customizing page. It takes 30seconds to copy paste to a txt file. Do it now, it's just smart practice.
And please, please, please, all- read carefully my post#1 of this thread.
Thanks!
Shima
May-01-2009, 09:53 PM
Wow this is an awesome update! Granted I'm going to have my site customized by David in the upcoming weeks because I want to take it to that *next* level, but it's really quite awesome what you've opened up by creating this easy customizer!
I also really like that we can upload a favicon for our site to use now, NICE.
Betz
May-01-2009, 11:12 PM
This has us SO excited :D Customize a SmugMug site in minutes, change the text, colors, header, footer, boxes, make a navbar and more.... you bet!
:bow :bow :bow
:clap :clap :clap
:thumb :thumb :thumb
I am so happy right now.. SO happy!! I <3 SmugMug to pieces.
Click... click....click and voila.. my smug matches my main site.
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
You guys do all the hard work... all I have to do is take pictures. *falls over from pure excitement*
richW
May-01-2009, 11:33 PM
OK - I just went in to advanced site wide cust. and looked over the settings and only changed background color from viewer controlled (which I've NEVER offered) to light then hit update and now all is back to normal??!!??!! All is OK again!!??!!:thumb :thumb :thumb
I dare to assume somebody at your end also did something?
Re: saving my code - no I didn't as I didn't realize/plan on touching anything in site wide settings - was that a mistake?
any how did you guys save me? or did my change do it?
either way THANK YOU!!
richRich,
If you need anything, shoot me an email to the help desk detailing what you need and I'll take care of it. I'll be back online around noon tomorrow our time (PDT).
Send attn: richW http://www.smugmug.com/help/emailreal
Certainly looks interesting.
Is they any plan for this to save to different custom Themes?
I personally like to have a little bit of global settings, and then themes for changing the appearance. Then I can have a light and dark themes for different galleries.
Thanks
Daniel
armani
May-02-2009, 03:34 AM
armani,
When you used the "Start Over" feature what previous customizations did you lose? As for that strange message your are seeing, it looks like you may have uncovered a bug. I can't reproduce it but I have a good idea what's happening and a fix is already in progress. By the way, what browser are you using?
As of right now, this is the only way to remove the easy customizations.
We'll get these issues ironed out!
Thanks!
-Brian
Hello Brian,
I use I.E. 8.0. I will post the lost customazition later today.
armani
Zebleys
May-02-2009, 04:35 AM
Dearest Smugmug Family & Staff,
As some may have noticed, my posts here in DGrins have been 911 calls to save me from myself. CSS/HTML is a phase in life that has swept me by, leaving me to create a world of broken beginnings and endings while never understanding the concept of this little guy {. Even with help, I still find a way to float away from the reality of understanding. There is nothing worse then the air I feel within the cavity of my head.
The seaonsed soldiers in this forum have stood the test of time. Post after post of the same question do they adhere too, knowing there is a previous thread from just hours earlier relating to that very topic (I take the 5th!). Never have I read about them complaining. They have rescued many Smugmuggers while showing only the kindest attitude even when I'm sure they were at their wits end.
I am anxious about future package deals that are being worked on but when I opened my site yesterday to attempt once more at getting my act together, seeing the creation of The Easy Customizer immediantly sent me into a blissful feeling of completeness. I feel the air within my head cavity slowlly decompressing. (I hope that's a good thing?)
As I step from the thank you podeum, I hope you can feel and see the applauds that are coming your way. Do not take them lightly. You guys really are heros for the frantic 911 callers as myself. Take a bow ... Job well done!! Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hip-Hip-Hooray!
:clap :bow :thumb :lust :ivar
Julie
Andy
May-02-2009, 04:51 AM
As I step from the thank you podeum, I hope you can feel and see the applauds that are coming your way. Do not take them lightly. You guys really are heros for the frantic 911 callers as myself. Take a bow ... Job well done!! Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hip-Hip-Hooray!
:clap :bow :thumb :lust :ivar
JulieYou made our day :D Thanks!
Andy
May-02-2009, 04:53 AM
:bow :bow :bow
:clap :clap :clap
:thumb :thumb :thumb
I am so happy right now.. SO happy!! I <3 SmugMug to pieces.
Click... click....click and voila.. my smug matches my main site.
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
You guys do all the hard work... all I have to do is take pictures. *falls over from pure excitement*
This is exactly what we were shooting for :D Thanks for telling us!
Andy
May-02-2009, 04:54 AM
Certainly looks interesting.
Is they any plan for this to save to different custom Themes?
I personally like to have a little bit of global settings, and then themes for changing the appearance. Then I can have a light and dark themes for different galleries.
Thanks
DanielGood suggestion, Brian (The Awesome Sorcerer that built this) has a whole bunch of feature-adds, I'll discuss this one with him!
denisegoldberg
May-02-2009, 05:18 AM
Folks, please do read carefully my post #1 of this thread. And remember who this is designed for :D
If you have extensive customizing already in place it's probably not for you.
Andy -
I'm absolutely appalled - yet not surprised - at the folks with extensive customizations who have jumped in to the easy customizer and actually saved changes from there without protecting themselves by saving a copy of their existing customizations. (Not smug's fault, the fault of the individuals who haven't bothered to protect themselves by backing up their customizations.)
It's quite obvious from looking at the preview screens against a previously customized site that changes will be made that alter the previous customizations, and that not all already-made customizations are not picked up by the new tool. Yes, I looked with my site, even assuming that the intent of this tool was that it be used by people who have not yet customized their sites. The things that jumped out at me immediately is that the smugmug header was back, the large footer was showing, my light background was ignored, my page title was gone.
This post is not a complaint, but a request. If someone goes into the easy customizer and that individual already has advanced customizations in place, can you at least pop up a reminder on the Easy Customizer to suggest that the individual take the time to back up their existing customizations before taking the next step? Yes, I know, you did say that in the first post of this thread, but there are individuals who stumbled on the Easy Customizer in smug (as opposed to in this thread) and did not see your recommendation. And unfortunately, people somehow manage to skim over details like that.
This looks to be a great starting point for people who want relatively simple changes. I suspect that it will cut down on some of the questions in the customization forum.
--- Denise
Andy
May-02-2009, 05:26 AM
This looks to be a great starting point for people who want relatively simple changes. I suspect that it will cut down on some of the questions in the customization forum.
--- DeniseYup - we expect folks to get a header, colors, navbar etc, done in minutes not hours/days. Upload photos, and share or sell 'em.
And then, at their leisure, they can take time and learn about customizing in advanced detail, if they like!
Or come here and post and get awesome help to do more tricks :D
We'll definitely be adding more stuff to the Easy Customizer, as well, in the near future.
Thanks Denise, as always, for your amazing help here on the forum! I'll ask Brian about backup reminder and such. Changing Easy Customizer stuff doesn't overwrite the stuff in cobrand.mg - but folks can be leery of making changes. We'll make it obvious.
colfragless
May-02-2009, 01:50 PM
First off Love the tool very easy to use!!!!!! next I would like to see add to the tool is a way to use different headers on different galleries.... Andy can you make this magic happen for me????? and also a way to change the nav bar order without deleting the link you have alrdy created..... thx again
Andy
May-03-2009, 04:41 AM
next I would like to see add to the tool is a way to use different headers on different galleries.... Andy can you make this magic happen for me????? I'm not sure if we'll go that far - it then becomes the "Complex Customizing" tool, eh?
But we'll see :D
For now, use the Customizing forum, and our awesome tutorial on multiple headers:
http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1932865
I think it would be useful for those of us with existing CSS customization to be able to at least see what easy changes would look like without having to hack out all of our css code first. I know I can back it up first (actually I can't back it up I have to copy and paste the code into a new blank document which is not the same thing) but it just seems a bit drastic.
Because I have existing themes, codes and site wide preferences it's impossible to see what any changes would look like on an existing gallery because my existing preferences affect the customization - can there not be the option of having a new blank gallery used in the preview?
Otherwise (and correct me if I'm wrong) I would have to remove all of my css code, save my site like that (goodness knows what any visitors to my site will see in the meantime) and effectively start over again with the Easy Customizer. If I don't like the changes I have to go back and paste all the css code back in again.
Or maybe there could be a dummy site somewhere we could practise on?
If I was starting out fresh today then this would be a godsend but as it is it seems totally impractical.
Andy
May-03-2009, 11:00 AM
Or maybe there could be a dummy site somewhere we could practise on?
You're welcome to start another Trial- use a separate email address. Sorry we don't presently have another way.
This tool was designed for folks that don't have extensive customizing :)
I imagine someone like you, you'd benefit from using Firefox Web Dev, that's a far better tool for you :D http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1354921
TxTortoise
May-03-2009, 01:41 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but since I was also paranoid before hitting the button on Easy Customizer I opened my site in the old Customization mode(/cobrand.mg) and did a Save As in the .webarchive format.
It saved all the text within the scrolling windows, etc. Pretty painless way to save the text...unless I really missed something.
Much easier than cut/paste to a text doc.
This is on a Mac, but it shouldn't matter. If not doable on Windows, what can I say. ;-)
Maybe I'm missing something, but since I was also paranoid before hitting the button on Easy Customizer I opened my site in the old Customization mode(/cobrand.mg) and did a Save As in the .webarchive format.
It saved all the text within the scrolling windows, etc. Pretty painless way to save the text...unless I really missed something.
Much easier than cut/paste to a text doc.
This is on a Mac, but it shouldn't matter. If not doable on Windows, what can I say. ;-)
You are right - thank you. I guess I can cut and paste from that instead.
Oakley
May-03-2009, 03:22 PM
Like many people before me, I jumped right into the Easy Customizer with reckless abandon - only to find myself in more trouble then I had wished for on a Sunday afternoon.
Although Andy is clear in this post that you should backup your customization code before trying out the "Easy" tool, I actually made changes using that tool BEFORE I came to dgrin. How was I to know?
Yes, there needs to be a major disclaimer on the actually Easy tool webpage (or pop-up or whatever...).
Another important point, is NO - smugmug cannot assume only NEW smugmugers are going to use this tool. When I saw that the Easy tool includes a "favicon" upload at the click of a button, of course I am going to use it. And a quick tweak to my smugmug footer - why not!
How was I supposed to know that my fonts were going to get all screwy and headers would appear out of thin air.
No, the "undo" didn't work for me either - not fully anyway. I needed to do some referse engineering (by trial and error). In the end, no harm done, but the experience hasn't been pleasurable.
Don't get me wrong, I love smugmug and recommend them to any photogapher I meet.......but this one scared me. I'm confident the heros will right the ship and all will be right as rain soon.
Just had to pipe up about what I went through........so Beware --- easy come, easy go.....:deal
Andy
May-03-2009, 03:49 PM
How was I supposed to know that my fonts were going to get all screwy and headers would appear out of thin air.
If you nuke completely from EZC,then your cobrand.mg page should still be in tact. We don't change your css there.
How did your fonts change? :ear
Daddio
May-03-2009, 08:35 PM
Andy said it's coming soon to the Advanced Customization menu, but for now I'm just using
#footer {display: none !important;}
so I can still have access to my feeds link without the headaches associated with the "easy" version.
Thanks a million, Aaron! This is exactly what I was looking for!! Smug footer is gone, but my custom footer remains. :thumb
reinout
May-04-2009, 01:00 AM
There's an option to set the title, but that seems static only. Searching in google with "site: photos.reinout.vanrees.org" gives me only "Reinout van Rees' photos - powered by SmugMug" now. So I can change it to some other static text. Which doesn't help search-engine-wise.
What I want: the title of the photo in the URL. "${title} - Reinout's photos" or something to that effect. I've only seen some javascript tricks to do that, which obviously has no effect on google and friends.
Titles are really important for search engine visibility, which is something I want. It is one of the (only two!) things I liked more about flickr.com: their search engine visibility of my photos was/is great.
Reinout
TalkieT
May-04-2009, 01:47 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but since I was also paranoid before hitting the button on Easy Customizer I opened my site in the old Customization mode(/cobrand.mg) and did a Save As in the .webarchive format.
It saved all the text within the scrolling windows, etc. Pretty painless way to save the text...unless I really missed something.
Much easier than cut/paste to a text doc.
This is on a Mac, but it shouldn't matter. If not doable on Windows, what can I say. ;-)
You sir... ROCK!
Thanks for this... I hadn't thought of doing it this way but yes, it works great for the advanced customisation - but for some reason doesn't work for the themes ???
Cheers - N
Roytp
May-04-2009, 04:28 AM
Wow.
"No SmugMug Footer"
You guys are really moving towards catering to the pros with more invisibility!
Thanks, again, for such an amazing service!
I'd like to join in with this praise.
Thanks a lot.
Only the £ sign, selling my digital images through your service and I'll be a very man.
This really is a great developement.
Andy
May-04-2009, 04:28 AM
There's an option to set the title
This is something that we're working on for a different part of the site, and we hope to have news on it soon. Stay up to date by subscribing to release notes! http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/
jandrewnelson
May-04-2009, 10:05 AM
Ok...this question is kinda vague, I know. I like the Easy Customizer...it's great. I'm trying though to get more a Andy's "feel" on his homepage of Moonriver. Any ideas on what and how to do it?
My url is www.meesoonsmugmug.com (http://www.meesoonsmugmug.com)
Thanks in advance for the help
Jerry
Barb
May-04-2009, 10:08 AM
Ok...this question is kinda vague, I know. I like the Easy Customizer...it's great. I'm trying though to get more a Andy's "feel" on his homepage of Moonriver. Any ideas on what and how to do it?
My url is www.meesoonsmugmug.com (http://www.meesoonsmugmug.com)
Thanks in advance for the help
Jerry
Hi Jerry,
You've got a good start! All you need to do is add a banner/logo image and then place your navbar to the right of it. You can do this in the Easy Customizer, under Header --> Custom Banner. Since you have already created the navbar with the Easy Customizer, just change the position of it to the right of your logo after you add that.
Tim Kamppinen
May-04-2009, 11:48 AM
I have a couple of questions... when I experimented with this last night, I set my background and boxes to black so the boxes wouldn't show up at all, and it worked everywhere but on my galleries page, where it said "Galleries Galleries" at the top of the page in a gray box. Not sure how to fix this... For the moment I have reverted back to my CSS customization that I had in place beforehand.
Two other things, about the preview window: Is there a way to see the preview in "visitor view"? Trying to figure out what it looks like in owner mode is a mess. I also was unable to preview my "galleries" page, although I could preview individual galleries. Is this something that could be fixed?
Sorry if this has been addressed before; I didn't read all 12 pages of the thread before posting...
Luc De Jaeger
May-04-2009, 01:58 PM
Just curious, will navbar fly-outs be part of future additions to the Easy Customizer? (I'd like to have one button with categories and the galleries in the fly-outs which I can do via the complex customizing but I'm still hesitant to start complex customization because I'd rather prefer this incorporated in the EC tool).
Luc
Andy
May-04-2009, 02:04 PM
Just curious, will navbar fly-outs be part of future additions to the Easy Customizer?
Maybe, but they're really, really advanced :D
We might use YUI-menus (like we use on other parts of the site)....
It's a down-the-road thing.
Luc De Jaeger
May-04-2009, 02:23 PM
Maybe, but they're really, really advanced :D
We might use YUI-menus (like we use on other parts of the site)....
It's a down-the-road thing.
Thanks bunches for the information Andy!
Luc
jfriend
May-04-2009, 06:48 PM
Maybe, but they're really, really advanced :D
We might use YUI-menus (like we use on other parts of the site)....
It's a down-the-road thing. Yes, YUI menus would be much better than the CSS menu hacks.
It's amazing how much junk has to be inserted into your CSS to make these drop-downs work and then to make the menu HTML itself work in a variety of browsers, it has all sorts of <table> and ifdef stuff in it that makes it entirely unreadable and undebuggable. I think Allen is the only one of the helpers that cares to actually try to help people fix busted hierarchical menus. I avoid them like the plague. Yui menus on the other hard are very simple to build and maintain and make cross platform (because Yahoo already did all the work).
surfmonkey89
May-04-2009, 08:53 PM
First, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate that you rolled this out. I realize it requires a higher subscription level, but even then it's relatively unheard of for a company to willing allow its customers to remove all branding.
Second, the implementation is excellent. Great job to everyone involved.
Now, for my bug report, which is: for some reason the "No footer" menu has disappeared as an option for me altogether. All I've been doing is playing around - never once hit publish - and I've never done any advanced customizations up to now. I've verified this behavior on both FF 3.0.10 and latest shipping Safari 3, both on the Mac, and I get the same behavior:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/surfmonkey89/nofooter.jpg
Edit: Just verified that this is also missing in FF3 & IE7 on WinXP. Looks like it's completely gone on the server side?
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks again!
Paul
Andy
May-05-2009, 04:15 AM
First, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate that you rolled this out. I realize it requires a higher subscription level, but even then it's relatively unheard of for a company to willing allow its customers to remove all branding.
Second, the implementation is excellent. Great job to everyone involved.
Now, for my bug report, which is: for some reason the "No footer" menu has disappeared as an option for me altogether. All I've been doing is playing around - never once hit publish - and I've never done any advanced customizations up to now. I've verified this behavior on both FF 3.0.10 and latest shipping Safari 3, both on the Mac, and I get the same behavior:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/surfmonkey89/nofooter.jpg
Edit: Just verified that this is also missing in FF3 & IE7 on WinXP. Looks like it's completely gone on the server side?
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks again!
PaulHi, you don't list your site so I can't check.. but this is a pro-only feature (removing the branding).
Roytp
May-05-2009, 05:01 AM
Hi
Having removed the Smugmug Info from the bottom of my page how do you login?
I have two links to smugmug on my desktop, one to what the customer sees and one to the login mode. Is this the only way to do it.
Still looks great though.
Andy
May-05-2009, 05:04 AM
Hi
Having removed the Smugmug Info from the bottom of my page how do you login?
@ www.smugmug.com
http://www.smugmug.com/help/acctlogin
Roytp
May-05-2009, 05:27 AM
@ www.smugmug.com (http://www.smugmug.com)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/acctlogin
Thanks Andy, I knew it would be simple, cheers.
mtmcelvy
May-05-2009, 05:48 AM
:clap:barb :clap :ivar
Thank You SmugMug:thumb
The fact is I know NOTHING about customizing my site, or any site for that matter! I have done a couple of simple things following some of the excellent tutorials floating around here! This is going to make it much easier for me to get my site like I want it :bow
Sincere thanks,
Mike
mbellot
May-05-2009, 07:45 AM
Looks very nice, I'll have to give it a test drive after backing up all my blood, sweat and tears manual customizations.
However, I can't help but think - All this, and still no way to disable the /iphone interface...
Andy
May-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Looks very nice, I'll have to give it a test drive after backing up all my blood, sweat and tears manual customizations.
However, I can't help but think - All this, and still no way to disable the /iphone interface...What does this have to do with iPhones? Mebellot, we have 10 Sorcerers on this team. The one that made Easy Customizer has nothing to do with iPhone stuff. :dunno
surfmonkey89
May-05-2009, 11:23 AM
Hi, you don't list your site so I can't check.. but this is a pro-only feature (removing the branding).
Sorry, my site is http://lukinich.smugmug.com/
I'm a Power user. When reading this (https://secure.smugmug.com/aboutus/servicelevels.mg), under Power Account it says "Use your own domain name and branding". That's not the same thing as removing SmugMug branding?
Andy
May-05-2009, 11:28 AM
Sorry, my site is http://lukinich.smugmug.com/
I'm a Power user. When reading this (https://secure.smugmug.com/aboutus/servicelevels.mg), under Power Account it says "Use your own domain name and branding". That's not the same thing as removing SmugMug branding?Correct. We've made it part of SmugMug Pro, that the SmugMug footer can be removed. And there'll be more bits like this, to come in the future.
surfmonkey89
May-05-2009, 11:42 AM
Correct. We've made it part of SmugMug Pro, that the SmugMug footer can be removed. And there'll be more bits like this, to come in the future.
OK, thanks. The jump from Power to Pro is quite a large one so I'll play with this a while before deciding whether to upgrade. I'm about to significantly increase my use of this service so it should be fun.
Thanks again for providing such a well thought out feature!
mbellot
May-05-2009, 12:01 PM
What does this have to do with iPhones?
Site customization. Turning on and off stuff to personalize MY site.
Making it "easy" would have been a bonus. Instead its just ignored.
uitdenbosch
May-05-2009, 01:00 PM
I love smugmug. I wear my smugstrap proud! The people are great here as well. You care about your customers and well everything about it is great... except one thing imo.
This update is great and allows you to customize the site to an extent, but I think it would have been better if Smugmug went all out to make accounts similar to that of Photoshelter or something.
Easy custom pages, yet very sharp and professional looking portfolios. Im still not sure if I should use my smug account as a portfolio, even with this upgrade.
jfriend
May-05-2009, 01:09 PM
I don't generally need the capabilities of the easy customizer since I can do my own CSS and HTML, but I did decided that I'd like to turn off the smugmug footer and I know of no other way to do that.
So, I went in to the customizer and that is the only change I made. Now when I look at the page you generate for me, I see a huge amount of CSS that has been inserted into my page setting all sorts of colors and fonts, and all sorts of stuff. Even worse, it has made them all !important so if I had already customized these, it will be whacking my own customization unecessecarily.
I don't want any of that. All I wanted to do was to turn off the footer. It seems to me that the easy customizer should be more granular, injecting only the minimum amount of CSS needed to control the things that have been explicitly set. As it is not, it appears to inject a big chunk of CSS if you touch anything.
Here's what it injects into my page (none of which is needed to support the single change I made):
body { color: #ffffff; font-family: arial !important; } #customHeaderContainer { padding-top: 10px; margin: 0 auto; padding-left: 15px; padding-right: 15px; } .nav, .nav .title, a.nav, a.nav:visited, a.nav:active, a.nav:hover, .pageNav, a.down, a.down:active, a.down:hover, a.down:visited, .nav a.down { color: #ffffff !important; font-family: arial !important; } .title, #userName.title, #userName .title, #userHome.title { font-family: arial !important; color: #8CCA1E !important; } .boxBottom a, .boxBottom a:hover, .boxBottom a:visited, .boxBottom a:active, #albumDescription a, #albumDescription a:hover, #albumDescription a:visited, #albumDescription a:active, #displayPhoto a, #displayPhoto a:hover, #displayPhoto a:visited, #displayPhoto a:active {color: #A1A5A9; font-family: arial !important; } .description { color: #ffffff !important;font-family: arial !important; } .foreground { color: #ffffff; font-family: arial !important; } .updated { color: #ffffff !important; font-family: arial !important; } .boxTop { } .tempClass #bioBox .boxTop { } .alert, a.alert { color: #ffffff; font-family: arial !important; }
Andy
May-05-2009, 01:12 PM
Site customization. Turning on and off stuff to personalize MY site.
Making it "easy" would have been a bonus. Instead its just ignored.
Oh I see. Yeah we've not figured a way that this can be done, I'm so very sorry, mbellot.
bstrong
May-05-2009, 04:07 PM
I don't generally need the capabilities of the easy customizer since I can do my own CSS and HTML, but I did decided that I'd like to turn off the smugmug footer and I know of no other way to do that.
So, I went in to the customizer and that is the only change I made. Now when I look at the page you generate for me, I see a huge amount of CSS that has been inserted into my page setting all sorts of colors and fonts, and all sorts of stuff. Even worse, it has made them all !important so if I had already customized these, it will be whacking my own customization unecessecarily.
I don't want any of that. All I wanted to do was to turn off the footer. It seems to me that the easy customizer should be more granular, injecting only the minimum amount of CSS needed to control the things that have been explicitly set. As it is not, it appears to inject a big chunk of CSS if you touch anything.
Hi jfriend,
Good news, we are adding the ability to remove the footer (Pros only) from the Advanced Customization page very soon. That way folks who don't want to use the Easy Customizer can still get to this functionality.
The CSS that was generated by the Easy Customizer was based on what you published. Since you didn't modify the defaults, the CSS was generated based on those values.
The !important is added to ensure the CSS that the Easy Customizer generates works in as many cases for as many people as possible. As you know the CSS of the site is very complex and has evolved over the years. In order to ensure that what you see in the Easy Customizer preview is actually what you will see in as many live pages as possible now and in the future, we needed to use !important. Unfortunately there will be some people that already have extensive customizations that this may affect. The simple solution for these people will be to add !important to their CSS rules if they choose to use both the Easy Customizer and the Advanced Site Customization.
I hope this helps!
mbellot
May-05-2009, 05:04 PM
Oh I see. Yeah we've not figured a way that this can be done, I'm so very sorry, mbellot.
Really (http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=992118&postcount=166) ?
That was almost six months ago...
Andy
May-05-2009, 05:08 PM
Really (http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=992118&postcount=166) ?
That was almost six months ago...
Right. We've not figured out a way to do it. I'm very, very sorry.
jfriend
May-05-2009, 06:10 PM
Hi jfriend,
Good news, we are adding the ability to remove the footer (Pros only) from the Advanced Customization page very soon. That way folks who don't want to use the Easy Customizer can still get to this functionality.
The CSS that was generated by the Easy Customizer was based on what you published. Since you didn't modify the defaults, the CSS was generated based on those values.
The !important is added to ensure the CSS that the Easy Customizer generates works in as many cases for as many people as possible. As you know the CSS of the site is very complex and has evolved over the years. In order to ensure that what you see in the Easy Customizer preview is actually what you will see in as many live pages as possible now and in the future, we needed to use !important. Unfortunately there will be some people that already have extensive customizations that this may affect. The simple solution for these people will be to add !important to their CSS rules if they choose to use both the Easy Customizer and the Advanced Site Customization.
I hope this helps! I'm glad you'll be exposing the hide footer feature without getting all the generated CSS because I don't want that stuff in my page. It just adds complication to CSS customizing that didn't need to more complicated.
I understand why you put the !important there. I don't agree with the design and where you're putting this CSS. Put it in a different place and !important won't be needed. !important really messes up CSS precedence and it's use should be limited to as little as possible. I would rather have seen you place this CSS after the theme so you didn't need !important and then give the user the ability to customize or override it if needed in their own CSS.
Also the whole business about the user's customizations being before the theme has just never been right. It makes it 400% harder for relatively new CSS users to figure out how to customize something. Now, you've complicated matters significantly more with all the !important stuff. To make a customization work, the user has to fight the easy customizer !important CSS and the them CSS. It's just getting messier and messier and more and more complicated. I do not think this was architecturally the right direction for Smugmug to be moving as things for people who do their own CSS just got more complicated and messier, not easier.
Andy
May-06-2009, 05:00 AM
I don't agree with the design and where you're putting this CSS.
Hey John, believe me, this feature has been wrassled by Brian for weeks. Our CSS isn't the easiest beast - mostly because we allow so much freedom of customizing by our customers. Brian, with the help and consult from the rest of our engineering team, have come up with a solution that gets this much-asked-for feature in the hands of people [i]now[/]... We're testing a few tweaks that'll get released this week and improve things even more for folks that use cobrand.mg as well.
But remember, we designed this feature for people that will never, ever darken the doors of the Dgrin customizing forum (and we know we have tens and tens of thousands of such folks).
If you'd like to hop on the phone with me and Brian anytime, just shoot me a note - we're not against trying to make do-able changes that would make more advanced folks life easier, too :deal
Thanks!
jfriend
May-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Hey John, believe me, this feature has been wrassled by Brian for weeks. Our CSS isn't the easiest beast - mostly because we allow so much freedom of customizing by our customers. Brian, with the help and consult from the rest of our engineering team, have come up with a solution that gets this much-asked-for feature in the hands of people [i]now[/]... We're testing a few tweaks that'll get released this week and improve things even more for folks that use cobrand.mg as well.
But remember, we designed this feature for people that will never, ever darken the doors of the Dgrin customizing forum (and we know we have tens and tens of thousands of such folks).
If you'd like to hop on the phone with me and Brian anytime, just shoot me a note - we're not against trying to make do-able changes that would make more advanced folks life easier, too :deal
Thanks! If we look at the simplest scenario which is users who use the easy customizer and never doing any custom CSS customization, it seems that you should make the easy customization 100% compatible with the themes. You control all the themes. You control all the easy customization. There should not be any incompatibilities between the two. Yet, the first thing you see when you go to the easy customization screen if you've chosen a theme is that there may be a conflict between the two. How is a newbie user going to have any idea what to do with that warning. They aren't. I think you should make it so a newbie user never sees that warning and never experiences a conflict between easy customization and their theme choice.
It seems to me that the default colors and fonts for the easy customization should be specified first in your core CSS (as the system default just like all other CSS defaults) and then in the theme itself (so they are 100% consistent with the themes). Then, if the user changes the color or font in the easy customization, then you override it in the additional CSS you add.
That whole warning about incompatability with themes could just go away.
And, you'd be putting a lot less CSS and using a lot less !important stuff because the default rules would already be in the page in the same location that defaults are for everything else in the Smugmug page (first in the core CSS, then in the theme). Without changing anything else, the only time you'd need to use a !important in your CSS override would be when the user actually changed a color or a font or something like that to make it different than the default. Merely turning something on or off wouldn't do any of what it does now. There would be no need for all this new CSS as it would already be in the page as defaults. The new CSS would ONLY be used to specify overrides of the defaults. IMO, this would be much cleaner and much more compatible with your current design of themes and would not require any significant architectural change, just putting the default rules into the right place and changing your EC generated CSS to only be things that the user has changed to be different than the defaults.
Andy
May-06-2009, 09:15 AM
You control all the themes. You control all the easy customization. There should not be any incompatibilities between the two.
You want I should delay packages, or coupons, or 'virtual' galleries, or less pro branding on Pro site, or.. or.. or?
We did what we could do to get this incredibly important feature out in a v1 release.
Thanks!
jfriend
May-06-2009, 09:38 AM
You want I should delay packages, or coupons, or 'virtual' galleries, or less pro branding on Pro site, or.. or.. or?
We did what we could do to get this incredibly important feature out in a v1 release.
Thanks! That sounds a little defensive on your part.
You asked for my feedback (remember, you sent me a note asking for my thoughts on EC). So, I'm offering you thoughtful feedback on how it could be implemented in a cleaner fashion going forward. If you don't want that feedback, then just say so and I'll stop wasting my time on it. If you do want it, then I would assume that someone who understands the design options would digest my comments and offer some thoughts on them.
I brought this up because I think your current architecture for EC makes the whole customization world more complicated than it needs to be (and it's already plenty complicated) and it does not look to me like it was designed to be fully compatible with themes (and it could/should have been).
Andy
May-06-2009, 09:51 AM
That sounds a little defensive on your part.
You asked for my feedback (remember, you sent me a note asking for my thoughts on EC). So, I'm offering you thoughtful feedback on how it could be implemented in a cleaner fashion going forward. If you don't want that feedback, then just say so and I'll stop wasting my time on it. If you do want it, then I would assume that someone who understands the design options would digest my comments and offer some thoughts on them.
I brought this up because I think your current architecture for EC makes the whole customization world more complicated than it needs to be (and it's already plenty complicated) and it does not look to me like it was designed to be fully compatible with themes (and it could/should have been).
Nope, not at all John :D I'm telling it like it is in response to your comments about themes and such. It's great feedback, and I thanked you for it. Keep it coming! We hope that we can wrassle all this CSS & Themes to make perfect sense to n00bs and CSS Gurus alike.
We'll get there, thanks again for posting your great comments.
rachael_ritchie
May-06-2009, 10:02 AM
First off - WOW! I love this tool. I never knew what all the mess in my css even meant, and now I can get rid of it and have things organized!! I look forward to seeing more tweeks and options in it in the future!
Now for the little problem I had- my text in my biobox used to be hidden, and now is not (it was just for SEO purposes) I saved all my CSS codes before doing this, and don't see anything missing that was related to this...but of course I might be wrong. Is there a quick little fix to this?
And one quick question - different titles for different pages - are they possible?
Thanks so much!
Rachael Ritchie
http://www.rachaelritchiephotography.com
Andy
May-06-2009, 10:07 AM
First off - WOW! I love this tool. I never knew what all the mess in my css even meant, and now I can get rid of it and have things organized!! I look forward to seeing more tweeks and options in it in the future!
Now for the little problem I had- my text in my biobox used to be hidden, and now is not (it was just for SEO purposes) I saved all my CSS codes before doing this, and don't see anything missing that was related to this...but of course I might be wrong. Is there a quick little fix to this?
And one quick question - different titles for different pages - are they possible?
Thanks so much!
Rachael Ritchie
http://www.rachaelritchiephotography.com
EZC doesn't touch bio box at all... did you save your code? If so, paste it here and we'll help you re-set your bio box.
Stay tuned on your other request :deal
rachael_ritchie
May-06-2009, 10:13 AM
Thankfully I did save my code! and I found it. I erased #bioText{display: none;} when I erased the previous banner I had. Don't know how I missed that. Sorry to take up your time. And I look forward to hearing about the Page Titles!
Thanks,
Rachael Ritchie
jfriend
May-06-2009, 10:36 AM
Nope, not at all John :D I'm telling it like it is in response to your comments about themes and such. It's great feedback, and I thanked you for it. Keep it coming! We hope that we can wrassle all this CSS & Themes to make perfect sense to n00bs and CSS Gurus alike.
We'll get there, thanks again for posting your great comments.
What I'm confused about is this. What is the expected interaction between EZC and your built-in themes?
Andy
May-06-2009, 10:53 AM
What I'm confused about is this. What is the expected interaction between EZC and your built-in themes?
Ideally, one would be able to customize on top of a theme without any issues. We'll get there, one day soon, I hope.
jfriend
May-06-2009, 10:59 AM
Ideally, one would be able to customize on top of a theme without any issues. We'll get there, one day soon, I hope. OK, so I guess making it compatible with all built-in themes was not a release requirement? That seems odd, but I guess that's what you chose.
My suggestion was for how to make the two compatible. Put the default EZC rules in the theme so the theme controls their look unless the user changes font, color, etc... in which case the EZC rules can override the theme in the exact same way as the user's CSS customization can. Then, it all works consistently and theme writers take responsibility for making EZC customizations work with their theme which is where that responsibility should be.
momwac
May-06-2009, 11:06 AM
Is this new feature the reason that one of my Pro accounts has a new, unlisted empty gallery as of April 30, labeled "My Smugmug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" ? :scratch
If so... why does only one of the accounts have said gallery, and why do you want me not to delete this gallery? (I already have a user-created gallery for my Web design assets and don't intend to use this one.)
If not... is there a way I can get some information on the creation of this gallery; e.g., creator's IP address?
Andy
May-06-2009, 11:09 AM
Is this new feature the reason that one of my Pro accounts has a new, unlisted empty gallery as of April 30, labeled "My Smugmug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" ? :scratch
If so... why does only one of the accounts have said gallery, and why do you want me not to delete this gallery? (I already have a user-created gallery for my Web design assets and don't intend to use this one.)
If not... is there a way I can get some information on the creation of this gallery; e.g., creator's IP address?
Yes, Easy customizer created it. It's entirely harmless, won't be seen by anyone but you. If it's empty, you may delete it. But we recommend leaving it :)
jfriend
May-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Is this new feature the reason that one of my Pro accounts has a new, unlisted empty gallery as of April 30, labeled "My Smugmug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" ? :scratch
If so... why does only one of the accounts have said gallery, and why do you want me not to delete this gallery? (I already have a user-created gallery for my Web design assets and don't intend to use this one.)
If not... is there a way I can get some information on the creation of this gallery; e.g., creator's IP address? That's where Smugmug puts images that you specify for use with the EZ Customizer. I would presume that Smugmug auto-created that when you used the EZ Customizer. I also have two accounts and have only played with EZ Customer on one of the accounts and that's the only account that has the "My Smugmug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" gallery.
Andy
May-06-2009, 11:16 AM
OK, so I guess making it compatible with all built-in themes was not a release requirement? That seems odd, but I guess that's what you chose.
My suggestion was for how to make the two compatible. Put the default EZC rules in the theme so the theme controls their look unless the user changes font, color, etc... in which case the EZC rules can override the theme in the exact same way as the user's CSS customization can. Then, it all works consistently and theme writers take responsibility for making EZC customizations work with their theme which is where that responsibility should be.
Great stuff John!
As I said, we opted for getting it out the door, because by far, the biggest thing new pros want to do asap is get their site customized, with no hassle. You should see the tears-of-joy stained emails we're getting at the help desk :)
Of course, there's work and improvements we can do. First round is in internal testing right now. Thanks!
momwac
May-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Got it -- thanks, Andy and John! I don't recall using the Easy Customizer, but I must have clicked the link at some point.
While this isn't something I plan to use, I recognize the tremendous value of such a feature for many people. A happy, prosperous customer base is good for Smugmug, which is good for me as a customer. So thanks, Smugmug. :thumb
I also have two accounts and have only played with EZ Customer on one of the accountsHold the phone! Smugmug has an "EZ Customer" feature? Now, that should be a major selling point! Where do I click to activate that? :D
GlassDarkly
May-06-2009, 10:03 PM
This has us SO excited :D Customize a SmugMug site in minutes, change the text, colors, header, footer, boxes, make a navbar and more.... you bet!.....
We really want your comments, and requests, too. Thanks and we hope you love it!
Thank You very much for this EZC!:barb I didn't see anyone ask over the course of the last few days, but if and when new features are added to EZC, where will an announcement be posted?
Also in the customizable Navbar I didn't see an option for a link to the shopping cart, will that be added at some point?
Again Thanks Much and keep up the good work!
~Glenn
Andy
May-07-2009, 05:30 AM
Thank You very much for this EZC!:barb I didn't see anyone ask over the course of the last few days, but if and when new features are added to EZC, where will an announcement be posted?
You'll want to subscribe to our Release Notes blog, so that you don't miss a single update from SmugMug :) http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/ at the bottom, there's a link for Entries (RSS) - put that in your favorite feed reader.
Also in the customizable Navbar I didn't see an option for a link to the shopping cart, will that be added at some point?
You can easily add it
https://secure.smugmug.com/cart
Malte
May-08-2009, 03:19 AM
I am one of the ones who have bitched and moaned about this, so THANK YOU GUYS! :bow:barb:lust And also a couple of extra special kudos for beating Zenfolio at their own game! :wink
I've only tinkered for a little bit now but the feature seems awesome, but still with some room for improvement. More fonts, ability to control font size, the slideshow module Andy was hinting...
Again :lust
Malte
Andy
May-08-2009, 04:32 AM
Updates May 8, 2009:
If you make a change to background color, page title, show smugmug header/footer in CoBrand, the change will also show up in EZC. This prevents the EZC from overwriting a change you made in CoBrand.
Added the ability to choose Feeds on/off if showing no footer (pro only).
Added Help link to mini footer and make it configurable.
Added the No Footer option to Advanced Site-wide Customizing for Pros only.
Removed "Powered by SmugMug" From the page title for Pros, when you use a custom page title.
:clap
Updated Help Pages:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/create-photo-album2 (pro)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/create-photo-album (power)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors2 (pro)
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-colors (power)
And the basic FAQ got updated, too: http://smugmug.com/help/customize-faq
More coming but these were the really important help pages to get fixed. :smo
caroline
May-08-2009, 06:14 AM
Updates May 8, 2009:
Removed "Powered by SmugMug" From the page title for Pros, when you use a custom page title.
:smo
Wow :barb this should really make a lot of people happy :D
Andy, thank you and the team very much - also for working through the night to give us these changes.
Caroline
aaronbrown
May-08-2009, 07:11 PM
Updates May 8, 2009:
Added the ability to choose Feeds on/off if showing no footer (pro only).
Added Help link to mini footer and make it configurable.
Added the No Footer option to Advanced Site-wide Customizing for Pros only.
Removed "Powered by SmugMug" From the page title for Pros, when you use a custom page title.
Awesome stuff here!
Andy, will you implement the "show feeds" in the advanced customization menu as well? Right now I'm just using css to hide the footer and bump up the feeds link.
I'm sure all the pros are happy about dropping SmugMug from their titles.
Nice work, guys and gals! :)
Peter
May-11-2009, 05:28 AM
When I enter Easy Customizer, I get the following message:
"The theme you have set for your homepage may be affecting your customization"
or when I select a gallery:
"The theme you have set for this gallery may be affecting your customization"
I tried different themes for my homepage, but still the same message. Should I ignore it and continue with Easy Customizer or ?
Thanks
Peter
Andy
May-11-2009, 07:29 AM
When I enter Easy Customizer, I get the following message:
"The theme you have set for your homepage may be affecting your customization"
or when I select a gallery:
"The theme you have set for this gallery may be affecting your customization"
I tried different themes for my homepage, but still the same message. Should I ignore it and continue with Easy Customizer or ?
Thanks
PeterSet your theme to Default.
Peter
May-11-2009, 09:34 AM
Set your theme to Default.
Thanks Andy,
I had done that, but the message kept appearing. HOWEVER, after your reply I decided to empty my browser cache and then set my theme to Default again. That did the trick.
Peter
Peter
May-11-2009, 10:00 AM
Thanks to you and your team. This is a great tool! :thumb Nice work . . .
Peter
Chris H
May-13-2009, 01:37 AM
WARNING, DO NOT USE THIS IF YOU HAVE ALREADY CUSTOMISED YOUR SITE>
Dear Smugmug,
I have spent literally hundreds of hours getting my site exactly as I wanted it. Having saved my CSS just in case something went wrong, I went on "easy customiser" to try and change my page titles to help with google searching and now find that not only did that not work, but my site now has borders where I don't want them, back ground colors that I don't want and text size that isn't as it was before.
WHAT THE F%$KS GOING ON!!!!???!!?!??!
I've copied back my presaved CSS and it hasn't worked!!!!!
Sort it please NOW!!!
EDIT: It seems when I try to put my previous CSS back in it's being over ridden by "easy customisation" so the CSS is correct, I just need you to switch off whatever it is that's overiding my original settings! I wish I'd never seen this damn thread.
denisegoldberg
May-13-2009, 03:25 AM
...EDIT: It seems when I try to put my previous CSS back in it's being over ridden by "easy customisation" so the CSS is correct, I just need you to switch off whatever it is that's overiding my original settings! I wish I'd never seen this damn thread.
There is a start over button that (apparently) wipes out the changes made by the easy customizer. See Andy's screen shot here - http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1101344&postcount=43.
--- Denise
Chris H
May-13-2009, 03:35 AM
There is a start over button that (apparently) wipes out the changes made by the easy customizer. See Andy's screen shot here - http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1101344&postcount=43.
--- Denise
Oh thank god, normality has returned.
Denise will you marry me!!?
Roytp
May-13-2009, 03:51 AM
Oh thank god, normality has returned.
Denise will you marry me!!?
You are the last in a long queue Chris.
Andy
May-13-2009, 03:56 AM
WARNING,
All is well, yes?
Chris H
May-13-2009, 04:24 AM
All is well, yes?
Yes thanks,
Have to say you probably should put some sort of health warning in large bold capital letters on the first post in this thread. I was practically in tears at the thought of all my efforts dissapearing down the drain.
Perhaps I over-reacted, and as usual your team were on the ball with a solution quickly. So thanks for that.
One thing puzzles me though, the easy customisation looks like it's the answer for most, but does it still allow you to fine tune with CSS? For instance, whilst trying to get my site looking like it used to (before finding the nuke button), I tried changing the font size in CSS and it just wouldn't budge, not even using the !important addition.
From my point of view, I like Smugmug because I'm a perfectionist and want to customise everything. It seems like you lose some control using EC.
Andy
May-13-2009, 04:58 AM
From my point of view, I like Smugmug because I'm a perfectionist and want to customise everything. It seems like you lose some control using EC.
This tool wasn't made for you :D It was made for hundreds of thousands that don't know CSS, never will, don't want to use the Advanced Site-wide customizing. I'm glad you tried it though, and many thanks for the feedback!
Andy
May-13-2009, 05:28 AM
You are the last in a long queue Chris.
:lol3 yes, we're lucky to have Denise, :bow :bow
straehle
May-13-2009, 09:46 AM
I tried the Easy Customizer before I read this and have totally destroyed my site. I went through it and saw the option to add a favicon on the browser bar. I did that and saw the warning, but figured that that was the only thing that would change. I did the change and now the site is so messed up that I can't get to the control panel to change any thing, log in/out, or change anything. Help.
After writing this, I saw the posts about the START OVER Button, but I can't get to that either. Can you restore my site from your backups or push the START OVER button from your side?
Andy
May-13-2009, 11:05 AM
I tried the Easy Customizer before I read this and have totally destroyed my site. I went through it and saw the option to add a favicon on the browser bar. I did that and saw the warning, but figured that that was the only thing that would change. I did the change and now the site is so messed up that I can't get to the control panel to change any thing, log in/out, or change anything. Help.
After writing this, I saw the posts about the START OVER Button, but I can't get to that either. Can you restore my site from your backups or push the START OVER button from your side?
You should have a copy of your customizing in your email. Let us know?
straehle
May-13-2009, 11:26 AM
You should have a copy of your customizing in your email. Let us know?
It's 11:22 (:17 after your reply) and it's not there. Also if I had it, what can I do? I can't find the login link to log in. I can't see the Tools drop down to get to the control panel. Oddly enough, the favicon which had appeared is now replaced with the standard SM icon, but every thing else is screwed up.
jfriend
May-13-2009, 11:29 AM
It's 11:22 (:17 after your reply) and it's not there. Also if I had it, what can I do? I can't find the login link to log in. I can't see the Tools drop down to get to the control panel. Oddly enough, the favicon which had appeared is now replaced with the standard SM icon, but every thing else is screwed up.
Go to www.smugmug.com and login from there. Then come back to your site and see if the Tools button is there.
straehle
May-13-2009, 11:39 AM
Thanks, that worked. When you're in a panic, you don't think too clearly. Have not received any email with customizing, but maybe later I can come back and do it manually if I don't get it.
Looking back, it looks as if there is some of my code under customization on the control panel, but for some reason, the site is not back to where it was. I need to leave, but I'll look more this PM.
1431 Outlook had placed the emailed customization in the Junk folder. I logged on using the trick above and pasted it in. It seems to be OK now, thanks for the help. Now I need to look for the place to insert the favicon code. I'll look, but if anyone knows off hand I'd appreciate a clue. I'm absolutely going to stay away from the "Easy" Customizer.
Andy
May-13-2009, 02:36 PM
Have not received any email
Look in your junk folder, I have it in our sent folder and I just sent it again to you.
BTSFTC
May-13-2009, 10:16 PM
Set your theme to Default.
Eureka I found the answer to that message... now how or where do I "set my theme to default"?
Peter
May-13-2009, 10:24 PM
Eureka I found the answer to that message... now how or where do I "set my theme to default"?
When logged into your site, select Themes in the top menu bar, then select "Revert to Default". You do this for your homepage and to any albums you want to change the theme.
Peter
BTSFTC
May-14-2009, 08:18 AM
Love, love, love the EC. Thank you, this was a much needed feature for non-techie types as myself. I tried customizing before EC and had completely given up out of frustration. I was resigned to having a crappy site and found myself avoiding the site altogether. This new feature fills me with hope that I will finally get it to look the way I want and not due to lack of help on your part but due to lack of knowledge on my part.
I have two accounts here: one personal (power) http://edalisse.smugmug.com/
and the more important one is pro. http://www.carolinapixel.com/
I tested the EC on my power and would like to mimic aspects of that customization on my pro account.....
1- Before the customization my homepage http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) was my slideshow page, and my http://www.carolinapixel.com/galleries displayed galleries without the slideshow. Now both homepage and galleries page displays the slideshow. How can I delete the slideshow from the galleries page?
2- How do I get rid of the red boxes on this page : http://www.carolinapixel.com/Pets ? and black boxes my homepage : http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) ? and make t look more like this http://edalisse.smugmug.com/
Thanks for your help
Wendee
May-14-2009, 08:52 AM
1- Before the customization my homepage http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) was my slideshow page, and my http://www.carolinapixel.com/galleries displayed galleries without the slideshow. Now both homepage and galleries page displays the slideshow. How can I delete the slideshow from the galleries page?
Add this to your Bottom JavaScript box:
function hasPath(sPath)
{
re = new RegExp("\/" + sPath + "(\/|$)");
return re.test(window.location)
}
if (hasPath("galleries"))
YD.addClass(document.body, "galleries");
And add this to your CSS box:
.homepage #galleriesBox,
.homepage #categoriesBox,
.homepage #featuredBox {
display: none;
}
.galleries #bioBox {
display: none;
}
.galleries #galleriesBox,
.galleries #categoriesBox,
.galleries #featuredBox {
display: block;
}
That will make the separate galleries page so that you have a homepage with a slideshow, and a galleries page with galleries.
2- How do I get rid of the red boxes on this page : http://www.carolinapixel.com/Pets ? and black boxes my homepage : http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) ? and make t look more like this http://edalisse.smugmug.com/
Try changing your theme to default; what you have chosen now may be affecting how the boxes look. If you change to default and it doesn't help, holler back. :)
Thanks for your help
You're very welcome! Please let us know if you need anything else. :)
Take care,
Wendee
Support Hero
help@smugmug.com
BTSFTC
May-14-2009, 03:28 PM
When logged into your site, select Themes in the top menu bar, then select "Revert to Default". You do this for your homepage and to any albums you want to change the theme.
Peter
:ivar worked like a charm! Thank you!
BTSFTC
May-14-2009, 03:35 PM
1- Before the customization my homepage http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) was my slideshow page, and my http://www.carolinapixel.com/galleries displayed galleries without the slideshow. Now both homepage and galleries page displays the slideshow. How can I delete the slideshow from the galleries page?
Add this to your Bottom JavaScript box:
function hasPath(sPath)
{
re = new RegExp("\/" + sPath + "(\/|$)");
return re.test(window.location)
}
if (hasPath("galleries"))
YD.addClass(document.body, "galleries");
And add this to your CSS box:
.homepage #galleriesBox,
.homepage #categoriesBox,
.homepage #featuredBox {
display: none;
}
.galleries #bioBox {
display: none;
}
.galleries #galleriesBox,
.galleries #categoriesBox,
.galleries #featuredBox {
display: block;
}
That will make the separate galleries page so that you have a homepage with a slideshow, and a galleries page with galleries.
2- How do I get rid of the red boxes on this page : http://www.carolinapixel.com/Pets ? and black boxes my homepage : http://www.carolinapixel.com (http://www.carolinapixel.com/) ? and make t look more like this http://edalisse.smugmug.com/
Try changing your theme to default; what you have chosen now may be affecting how the boxes look. If you change to default and it doesn't help, holler back. :)
Thanks for your help
You're very welcome! Please let us know if you need anything else. :)
Take care,
Wendee
Support Hero
help@smugmug.com
:clapBeautiful! Thank you!:clap
RJAK
May-16-2009, 06:38 AM
The easy customizer is the greatest thing since sliced bread. :clap
This has us SO excited :D
mapleleaver
May-16-2009, 03:37 PM
I appreciate the new customization but cannot find something that was there before. I wanted to change the colours on my homepage and cannot find the code for colours that was there before.
Can someone please send me the link for where I can find the colour codes?
Thanks
Chris
Andy
May-16-2009, 04:19 PM
I appreciate the new customization but cannot find something that was there before. I wanted to change the colours on my homepage and cannot find the code for colours that was there before.
Can someone please send me the link for where I can find the colour codes?
Thanks
Chris
http://www.colorjack.com/
http://www.colorpicker.com/
wriker
May-21-2009, 07:45 PM
OK, new to all this...I created my site some time ago.. with some help. Now Im bored with it and have been working on changes - reading, reading and reading... ok so that you dont have to read - here is my problem. I have a simple Banner - and Nav bar to the right of it. I created them both with the easy breezy customizer thingy thats new to SM but wont alow you to "tweak" it once you done it.. any way - when you nevigate through my site - those two things vanish. Although I have notice they only vanish on the galleries that have been added to communites....? So if I take them away or out of the community the banner and nav come back.... uh...
Oh and since Im here - how do you get rid of the "box" around the images including the slideshow..(im not talking the frame or white box - i know that... Im talking that translucent background:scratch) I have read tons of threads and just when I thought I found it I fell asleep....
OK, thanks so much for any help
wriker
May-21-2009, 08:05 PM
While Im at this - the link on y banner doesnt always work as well..:scratch When I go to the portrait gallery - click the banner - I go to SM home page.... this is the easy customizer? I did better the other way... UGH.. I think I need sleep
jfriend
May-21-2009, 08:27 PM
OK, new to all this...I created my site some time ago.. with some help. Now Im bored with it and have been working on changes - reading, reading and reading... ok so that you dont have to read - here is my problem. I have a simple Banner - and Nav bar to the right of it. I created them both with the easy breezy customizer thingy thats new to SM but wont alow you to "tweak" it once you done it.. any way - when you nevigate through my site - those two things vanish. Although I have notice they only vanish on the galleries that have been added to communites....? So if I take them away or out of the community the banner and nav come back.... uh...
Oh and since Im here - how do you get rid of the "box" around the images including the slideshow..(im not talking the frame or white box - i know that... Im talking that translucent background:scratch) I have read tons of threads and just when I thought I found it I fell asleep....
OK, thanks so much for any help Some communities mandate their own style on your galleries. Remove them from the community and your style will come back. Add them to the community and you get the style of the community. You have to pick which one you want or convince the community owner to change the setting in the community so you can have your own style.
jfriend
May-21-2009, 08:30 PM
While Im at this - the link on y banner doesnt always work as well..:scratch When I go to the portrait gallery - click the banner - I go to SM home page.... this is the easy customizer? I did better the other way... UGH.. I think I need sleep You put in the wrong link URL for the banner. You put in "wrikerphoto.com". You need to put in "http://wrikerphoto.com" instead. Link URLs do not work like what you type in the browser. If it doesn't start with either "/" or "http://", then the browser treats it as a relative URL which will not do what you want.
wriker
May-22-2009, 05:25 AM
Some communities mandate their own style on your galleries. Remove them from the community and your style will come back. Add them to the community and you get the style of the community. You have to pick which one you want or convince the community owner to change the setting in the community so you can have your own style.
This is all said and good - except that before I changed my banner - it worked fine. Then I uesed the easy cutomizer to make a new one and now it vanishes when you go to those communities -
Andy
May-22-2009, 05:30 AM
This is all said and good - except that before I changed my banner - it worked fine. Then I uesed the easy cutomizer to make a new one and now it vanishes when you go to those communities -
Hi, when you use a community the community customizing takes over. I'm sorry, but that's the way it has always been.
wriker
May-22-2009, 10:51 AM
Hi, when you use a community the community customizing takes over. I'm sorry, but that's the way it has always been.
Maybe were all confused here - I changed my Banner as well as the NAV bar BACK to the way it used to be. Typed all the code in, yada yada - then went to any gallery that happens to belong to a community and ALL WAS NOT LOST - my banner, my nav - all were still there.... NOW if I did the same thing after creating my banner and nav in the "easy customizer" and then went to a gallery - all would be lost.
Why the difference??
jfriend
May-22-2009, 11:22 AM
Maybe were all confused here - I changed my Banner as well as the NAV bar BACK to the way it used to be. Typed all the code in, yada yada - then went to any gallery that happens to belong to a community and ALL WAS NOT LOST - my banner, my nav - all were still there.... NOW if I did the same thing after creating my banner and nav in the "easy customizer" and then went to a gallery - all would be lost.
Why the difference?? Oooh, that's in interesting one. If true, then the easy customizer CSS/HTML is not being added to the gallery on communities even when the community allows your own customization. I hope someone from Smugmug looks into that one. If you're sure about this, then you should file it in the bug reporting forum.
encosion
May-24-2009, 02:41 AM
This has us SO excited :D Customize a SmugMug site in minutes, change the text, colors, header, footer, boxes, make a navbar and more... I'm assuming this doesn't apply for basic SmugMug accounts? Doesn't seem to be mentioned that it's for Power and Pro only, but I can find any of the entry links you mentioned! Pity!
Andy
May-24-2009, 04:37 AM
I'm assuming this doesn't apply for basic SmugMug accounts? Doesn't seem to be mentioned that it's for Power and Pro only, but I can find any of the entry links you mentioned! Pity!
Yes, customizing is for Power and Pro accounts, always has been. You'll find the easy customizer in our Power and Pro sections of our help pages, too.
jchin
May-31-2009, 10:36 AM
Andy ... HELP!
I tried the Eazy Customizer ... after you told me what the new unlisted gallery is ... well ... it now breaks my "galleries" page.
http://galleries.jchinphotography.com/galleries/ is not suppose to show the "popular photos"
http://galleries.jchinphotography.com/ is not suppose to show galleries but just the popular photos (until I get around to making a front page slideshow)
How do I fix this? I had a lot of customizations before trying the Easy Customizer.
HELP! Thanks.
denisegoldberg
May-31-2009, 10:42 AM
I tried the Eazy Customizer ... after you told me what the new unlisted gallery is ... well ... it now breaks my "galleries" page
....How do I fix this? I had a lot of customizations before trying the Easy Customizer.
Using the easy customizer against an already customized site is not a good idea.
From the first post in this thread: Using Easy Customizer won't overwrite any of your existing customizing that you have in your site-wide customizing area (cobrand.mg) but customizations done via the Easy Customizer may trump (overpower) some of your site-wide customizing. Remember, this tool was built for the most part, for folks to start out with fast, and get a header, navbar, colors, fonts, etc.
Use the start over button (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1101344&postcount=43) in the easy customizer to remove all easy customizer customizations.
--- Denise
jchin
May-31-2009, 12:48 PM
Using the easy customizer against an already customized site is not a good idea.
From the first post in this thread:Using Easy Customizer won't overwrite any of your existing customizing that you have in your site-wide customizing area (cobrand.mg) but customizations done via the Easy Customizer may trump (overpower) some of your site-wide customizing. Remember, this tool was built for the most part, for folks to start out with fast, and get a header, navbar, colors, fonts, etc.Use the start over button (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1101344&postcount=43) in the easy customizer to remove all easy customizer customizations.
--- Denise
I originally clicked on "Easy Customizer" by accident and canceled out of there. However, it created a hidden gallery (which Andy bought to my attention when I asked about it). Then curiosity got the best of me.
Well ... I did do the "start over" thingy and it still broke a lot of my original customizations (pre-Easy Customizer). I am now trying to hack at the CSS and JavaScript to see if I can get it to work as it did before.
jchin
May-31-2009, 01:02 PM
SUGGESTION:
Think it maybe time SmugMug renamed the Easy Customizer gallery as such. Instead of calling it "My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete)", maybe it should be named "My SmugMug Easy Customizer Files (Do Not Delete)". Less confusing.
And maybe it should have its own category ... like "SmugMug" or "SmugMug Customizations" ... something along that line. Just in case there are users that uses the "Other" category already.
jchin
May-31-2009, 01:03 PM
By the way ... what happens if we delete that "My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" empty gallery?
Andy
May-31-2009, 01:23 PM
By the way ... what happens if we delete that "My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete)" empty gallery?
Nothing happens if it's empty and you're not using it, delete it. It's rather harmless, to leave it, since it's unlisted and nobody but you will ever see it.
Fad2blk
May-31-2009, 02:47 PM
Very nice! I've only changed a few things using it, but no problems so far. Thanks!!
Darling
May-31-2009, 03:40 PM
Used Easy Customizer to put in a right click statement, then I didn't like it, so I changed it but it won't update on my photos. The old statement is still there. Can you tell me how to fix this?
(Easy Customizer is great because I went on a long trip and when I came back I couldn't remember CSS from CRT and was thoroughly confused. Then I found Easy Customizer and I was able update my whole website in one sitting. Thanks!)
www.janewaddick.com
Andy
May-31-2009, 05:33 PM
Used Easy Customizer to put in a right click statement, then I didn't like it, so I changed it but it won't update on my photos. The old statement is still there. Can you tell me how to fix this?
(Easy Customizer is great because I went on a long trip and when I came back I couldn't remember CSS from CRT and was thoroughly confused. Then I found Easy Customizer and I was able update my whole website in one sitting. Thanks!)
www.janewaddick.com
Different than this?
http://img.skitch.com/20090601-d7s87hbm31ju5c7sx84ipknww4.jpg
Darling
May-31-2009, 06:50 PM
Andy, what you see is what i want, but what I see when I right click is my old statement - and I'm sorry but -I don't know how to copy and paste it here, but what I see (in owner and visitor view) is 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved. I added the "Copyright" - and I just don't see it.
Andy
May-31-2009, 06:57 PM
Andy, what you see is what i want, but what I see when I right click is my old statement - and I'm sorry but -I don't know how to copy and paste it here, but what I see (in owner and visitor view) is 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved. I added the "Copyright" - and I just don't see it.
Which gallery link shows it to you this way? :ear
jfriend
May-31-2009, 07:46 PM
Andy, what you see is what i want, but what I see when I right click is my old statement - and I'm sorry but -I don't know how to copy and paste it here, but what I see (in owner and visitor view) is 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved. I added the "Copyright" - and I just don't see it. When I go to this gallery (http://www.janewaddick.com/gallery/7795239_ASskq) and attempt a right click, I see this:
http://content.screencast.com/users/jfriend/folders/Jing/media/1601b69d-fd0e-4806-ad8d-a92a14030b06/2009-05-31_1943.png
The Safari browser seems to know what to do with that funny symbol (it shows "copyright", but Firefox does not.
That is because your bottom javascript has this in it:
rightClickWarning = "� 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved";
Change that symbol at the beginning to normal text and it should start working. Like this:
rightClickWarning = "Copyright 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved";
Darling
May-31-2009, 08:53 PM
When I go to this gallery (http://www.janewaddick.com/gallery/7795239_ASskq) and attempt a right click, I see this:
http://content.screencast.com/users/jfriend/folders/Jing/media/1601b69d-fd0e-4806-ad8d-a92a14030b06/2009-05-31_1943.png
The Safari browser seems to know what to do with that funny symbol (it shows "copyright", but Firefox does not.
That is because your bottom javascript has this in it:
rightClickWarning = "� 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved";
Change that symbol at the beginning to normal text and it should start working. Like this:
rightClickWarning = "Copyright 2009 Jane Waddick, all rights reserved";
John
I deleted the phrase in Easy Customizer and inserted your code per instructions and this fix it.
Thanks very much.
Jane
jfriend
May-31-2009, 09:06 PM
John
I deleted the phrase in Easy Customizer and inserted your code per instructions and this fix it.
Thanks very much.
Jane Hmmm, Andy I wonder if this is a bug/problem in the Easy Customizer? When using EZC, Jane was getting something that worked in Safari, but not in Firefox.
jchin
May-31-2009, 10:36 PM
Curious ... does the code from Easy Customizer override the CSS and JavaScript we put into the Advanced Customize page (cobrand.mg)? Or is it the other way around? Or does Easy Customizer edit the custom code?
Main reason ... I am considering trying the NavBar thingy but don't want to break everything I've done already.
Sorry Andy ... I hope I am not being a royal pain.
Andy
Jun-01-2009, 05:04 AM
Curious ... does the code from Easy Customizer override the CSS and JavaScript we put into the Advanced Customize page (cobrand.mg)? Or is it the other way around? Or does Easy Customizer edit the custom code?
Main reason ... I am considering trying the NavBar thingy but don't want to break everything I've done already.
Sorry Andy ... I hope I am not being a royal pain.
You are not a pain. EZC won't harm your existing customizing and it's a cinch to 'nuke' what you do in EZC. That said, like I've been posting - EZC is not for folks that already have customizing in place, really.
Don't forget to backup your customizing (we give you a nice Email It! button now on your customizing page) if you do give this a try :)
Questions are never a pain - we're here to serve and we love you asking questions!
jchin
Jun-01-2009, 06:20 AM
Don't forget to backup your customizing (we give you a nice Email It! button now on your customizing page) if you do give this a try :)
That is a GREAT idea. I better go "backup" my existing customizations now. Especially since you now have an Email It! button. Another cool feature. :thumb
Enitsugua
Jun-08-2009, 07:49 AM
Hi Michael, My first post says that some things in your site-wide customizing may be 'overpowered' but you can always nuke your easy customizing if you don't like what you see. Also that this tool is primarily designed to be used before any advanced customizing.
So, you can add more advances customization on top of this once you get things to a point you like with EC?
If I do that, then go back and make a change to something I did in EC, will the change in EC destroy my AC?
DrDavid
Jun-08-2009, 09:01 AM
So, you can add more advances customization on top of this once you get things to a point you like with EC?
If I do that, then go back and make a change to something I did in EC, will the change in EC destroy my AC?
Really you should do one vs. the other: but not both. Bad things happen.
David
Enitsugua
Jun-08-2009, 09:10 AM
Really you should do one vs. the other: but not both. Bad things happen.
David
Sounded as though bad things only happened if you had AC then used EC. But EC first then AC seemed to be fine (my first question). My second question though was what happens if you use EC first, then do some AC, then go back and make a change in EC.
Andy (on both questions please)?
DrDavid
Jun-08-2009, 11:56 AM
Sounded as though bad things only happened if you had AC then used EC. But EC first then AC seemed to be fine (my first question). My second question though was what happens if you use EC first, then do some AC, then go back and make a change in EC.
Andy (on both questions please)?
Well, EC adds new CSS that isn't always compatible with the code you'll find on here. For example, it adds margin around the header code, and a few other strangenesses. It also uses !important a LOT. So, you'll need to code against the EC CSS specifically. Honestly, it's too much effort to do that when you can just do it in your own CSS and have a much cleaner implementation.
David
bstrong
Jun-08-2009, 01:31 PM
Sounded as though bad things only happened if you had AC then used EC. But EC first then AC seemed to be fine (my first question). My second question though was what happens if you use EC first, then do some AC, then go back and make a change in EC.
Andy (on both questions please)?
Hi Glazener,
This problem really has nothing to do with the order that EC and AC are used, but more about the type of customizations that are in AC.
Typically, people that used AC before the EC was released had pretty extensive CSS customizations. Using EC on top of those extensive customizations in AC can turn out to be an issue.
Starting from a clean slate, EC can get most people 80-90% of the way. Using the AC to get the remaining (usually more advanced tweaks) works well. The difference is that the amount of customizations in AC is far less than those that only used AC and are less likely to step over (or get stepped over by) the EC. Using this model, going back to EC to make some additional tweaks should be fine, again depending on the nature of the customizations made in AC.
I hope this helps answer your questions!
-Brian
jchin
Jun-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Are all the EC changes documented in the AC CSS and JavaScript? Or are they stored in some "hidden" file somewhere else?
jfriend
Jun-08-2009, 04:21 PM
Are all the EC changes documented in the AC CSS and JavaScript? Or are they stored in some "hidden" file somewhere else? The EC CSS is injected into your user CSS include file at run-time. It isn't stored anywhere you can access it directly. You can see it if you use a developer's tool like Web Developer to look at your user CSS in your page.
Andy
Jun-08-2009, 04:37 PM
The EC CSS is injected into your user CSS include file at run-time. It isn't stored anywhere you can access it directly. You can see it if you use a developer's tool like Web Developer to look at your user CSS in your page.
And, FYI John, you'd asked us to add line breaks. We did. It'll go out in our next release:
http://img.skitch.com/20090608-b32ffab4f73u35em28qu2g75bj.jpg
jfriend
Jun-08-2009, 09:38 PM
And, FYI John, you'd asked us to add line breaks. We did. It'll go out in our next release:
http://img.skitch.com/20090608-b32ffab4f73u35em28qu2g75bj.jpg Thank you. Please make sure there's a double linebreak after the last EZC line so that the user's customization is separated by a blank line.
Andy
Jun-09-2009, 05:13 AM
Thank you. Please make sure there's a double linebreak after the last EZC line so that the user's customization is separated by a blank line.
I'll ask Brian, but there's the /* End EZC CSS */ comment already ...
jfriend
Jun-09-2009, 07:50 AM
I'll ask Brian, but there's the /* End EZC CSS */ comment already ...That definitely helps, but if there's no break after that, then the user's CSS ends up on the same line as that comment which is confusing (that's the way it has been since he first implemented it). And, it would be even nicer to have a blank line between the two.
Andy
Jun-09-2009, 09:46 AM
That definitely helps, but if there's no break after that, then the user's CSS ends up on the same line as that comment which is confusing (that's the way it has been since he first implemented it). And, it would be even nicer to have a blank line between the two.
Better? This'd go in next release
http://img.skitch.com/20090609-8b91ib98xbuyjp57xdbhmxacxb.jpg
jfriend
Jun-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Better? This'd go in next release
http://img.skitch.com/20090609-8b91ib98xbuyjp57xdbhmxacxb.jpg
Lookin' good. Thanks.
ebwest
Jun-09-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm late to the party, but I went to the Easy Customizer, it came up, and nothing happens when I hit any of the selection choices. I'm using Fire Fox and noticed in the lower left hand corner it was trying to run a javascript. I checked my options and Java was on, went to the upload page and the uploader worked.
Any ideas what I need to do?
Andy
Jun-09-2009, 01:13 PM
I'm late to the party, but I went to the Easy Customizer, it came up, and nothing happens when I hit any of the selection choices. I'm using Fire Fox and noticed in the lower left hand corner it was trying to run a javascript. I checked my options and Java was on, went to the upload page and the uploader worked.
Any ideas what I need to do?
Java and Javascript are two very different things. What browser are you running please? :ear
jchin
Jun-09-2009, 01:21 PM
Better? This'd go in next release
http://img.skitch.com/20090609-8b91ib98xbuyjp57xdbhmxacxb.jpg
Thank you ... thank you ... thank you. You Smugmug guys/gals are GREAT!
ebwest
Jun-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Java and Javascript are two very different things. What browser are you running please? :ear
Then that's 2 things instead of one that I don't know anything about:dunno
Firefox 3.0.10
Andy
Jun-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Then that's 2 things instead of one that I don't know anything about:dunno
Firefox 3.0.10
OK what addons or plugins are you running in Firefox please?
ebwest
Jun-09-2009, 02:54 PM
OK what addons or plugins are you running in Firefox please?
AVG Safe Search
Java Quick Starter
Whatbird.com Winged Bird toolbar
Enitsugua
Jun-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Better? This'd go in next release
http://img.skitch.com/20090609-8b91ib98xbuyjp57xdbhmxacxb.jpg
Yes, this is great. Gives me a lot more confidence in going the EC then layering AC on top of it route.
Thanks.
ebwest
Jun-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm still not getting it to do anything.
ebwest
Jun-14-2009, 06:01 AM
Bump...again
This is what my screen looks like, nothing I click on does anything:
http://ebinfl.smugmug.com/photos/562853525_CVamA-L.jpg
jchin
Jun-14-2009, 06:04 AM
Have you tried "resetting" EC and starting over?
Andy
Jun-14-2009, 06:16 AM
Bump...again
This is what my screen looks like, nothing I click on does anything:
http://ebinfl.smugmug.com/photos/562853525_CVamA-Th.jpg
Turn off all your FF Addons and close, reopen, and try?
What does it look like in IE?
:ear
ebwest
Jun-14-2009, 06:43 AM
No change after disabling the add-ons.
IE does the same, but the preview screen is white, none of the buttons do anything and in the lower left corner it says "Error on Page"
Maybe the SmugMug Gods just don't want me messing with this.
Andy
Jun-14-2009, 07:03 AM
No change after disabling the add-ons.
IE does the same, but the preview screen is white, none of the buttons do anything and in the lower left corner it says "Error on Page"
Maybe the SmugMug Gods just don't want me messing with this.OK are you at a work location? Behind a firewall? Any new security software in place? EB, I'm very sorry but you're the very first and only person that's reporting this so I'm a little lost here... I'll escalate and see if other heroes can help.
phototristan
Jun-14-2009, 07:09 AM
Hi ebwest,
That could be an issue with Javascript on your browser/computer.
Can you test your browser javascript here?:
http://weblogin.bu.edu/troubleshooting?cmd=ssl -
Here are instructions on how to enable Javascript in most browsers:
http://www.tranexp.com/win/JavaScript-enabling.htm
If you have security software or a firewall, that could also cause this. I would recommend that you temporarily disable them and see if that fixes the issue. If so, you should then be able to input an 'allow' for SmugMug that typically looks like: *.smugmug.com
Please let us know if you continue to experience this issue after running the above test and making sure Javascript is enabled on your system.
No change after disabling the add-ons.
IE does the same, but the preview screen is white, none of the buttons do anything and in the lower left corner it says "Error on Page"
Maybe the SmugMug Gods just don't want me messing with this.
ebwest
Jun-14-2009, 08:21 AM
It must not be meant for me. I passed all the tests, disabled the firewall, and left the add-ons off...still doesn't do anything.
bstrong
Jun-15-2009, 10:00 AM
It must not be meant for me. I passed all the tests, disabled the firewall, and left the add-ons off...still doesn't do anything.
ebwest,
There was a hidden line break in the gallery named "Zoo" that was causing this issue. Not sure how it got there, but it has been removed and the EZC tool should work for you now!
Thanks for your patience!
-Brian
ebwest
Jun-15-2009, 11:19 AM
ebwest,
There was a hidden line break in the gallery named "Zoo" that was causing this issue. Not sure how it got there, but it has been removed and the EZC tool should work for you now!
Thanks for your patience!
-Brian
Thanks a lot. Not sure how anything got in the Zoo either, I don't think I've been to it since I created it.
All is well now, if I can decide what I want to do with it now that I have it:D
tfboy
Jun-25-2009, 03:50 AM
...delete the > Other > My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete) gallery? It's bugging me :rolleyes
If there are no problems with deleting the gallery (asuming EZC isn't used), maybe you could update the first page, Andy, to mention this?
Sorry, my twisted way of saying I haven't read through the last umpteen posts to find out ;)
Thanks :thumb
Andy
Jun-25-2009, 04:06 AM
...delete the > Other > My SmugMug Site Files (Do Not Delete) gallery? It's bugging me :rolleyes
Sure. As long as there's nothing in it you want/need, delete it. Sorry it bugs you :D Nobody sees it but you....
Andy
Jul-10-2009, 01:16 PM
By request http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=131785
we made it more readable now :D
shrekie
Jul-12-2009, 05:06 PM
Hi,
I dived into the Easy Customizer and only wanted to change my Favicon as I had never been able to do it before, but now my site's background has changed from black to a muddy grey/green and I have an old border around my slideshow that is not supposed to be there.
Is there any way to undo my most recent change with the Easy Customiser? Unfortunately, I don't think I backed up the CSS immediately prior to making the change.
Thanks...hopefully this will not be too much of a headache to fix.
Nelson
Andy
Jul-12-2009, 05:07 PM
Hi,
I dived into the Easy Customizer and only wanted to change my Favicon as I had never been able to do it before, but now my site's background has changed from black to a muddy grey/green and I have an old border around my slideshow that is not supposed to be there.
Is there any way to undo my most recent change with the Easy Customiser? Unfortunately, I don't think I backed up the CSS immediately prior to making the change.
Thanks...hopefully this will not be too much of a headache to fix.
NelsonJust undo (wipe out) all the EZC changes. Let us know.
shrekie
Jul-12-2009, 05:23 PM
Just undo (wipe out) all the EZC changes. Let us know.
Thanks Andy, but I looked in the Easy Customizer section and the Advanced Site Wide Customization and I have no idea how to do this. Any advice?
Thanks,
Nelson
Andy
Jul-12-2009, 05:25 PM
Thanks Andy, but I looked in the Easy Customizer section and the Advanced Site Wide Customization and I have no idea how to do this. Any advice?
Thanks,
Nelson
Sure.
http://img.skitch.com/20090713-qa1c4jh7ye7i4km7ydjs4yj6r6.jpg
shrekie
Jul-12-2009, 05:35 PM
Great, thanks Andy:)
I did this and it mostly worked and I got my black background back and the slideshow border is ok, but the full Smugmug Header and Footer appears even though these weren't there previously. Now when I go into EZ to remove them and save changes, the green/grey background reappears. Also, when I am in EZ, the background that shows is green/grey rather than my current black background so I am wondering if that is what is interfering with it, although I'm not sure.
All I really want to do to what I originally had is to add the Favicon and change the Smugmug footer to my own footer.
Thanks for the help.
Nelson
Andy
Jul-12-2009, 05:39 PM
All I really want to do to what I originally had is to add the Favicon and change the Smugmug footer to my own footer.
Thanks for the help.
NelsonGo into advanced cusotmizing and set your header / footer options.
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