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NeilL
Apr-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Maybe - maybe not? I think more maybe not. I can't convince myself they have "arrived", but what is the next part of the trip? Point the way, hope you may! :D Thanks for looking! :thumb



http://neilal.smugmug.com/photos/513415044_MtXsx-XL.jpg


http://neilal.smugmug.com/photos/513415064_k4iVU-XL.jpg


http://neilal.smugmug.com/photos/513415075_Adq9j-XL.jpg








Canon 40D, 24-70 f2.8L USM

Neil

lilirishangel
Apr-15-2009, 07:54 PM
very nice:clap

NeilL
Apr-16-2009, 11:02 AM
very nice:clap

Thanks! Glad you like them!

What do you think of the processing of the skin? Feel free to comment.

Look forward to you posting something of yours.

Neil

cerpintor
Apr-16-2009, 12:04 PM
Personally I think the skin tones could do with being a little bit darker (particularly the 3rd shot). I'm also seeing a slight blue cast in the skin tones (particularly in the 1st and 3rd shots). Not sure if that would be less obvious with a slight darkening.

Also, on less of a processing tip, I find the poses in the first two images a little unnatural. His smile in the third shot looks natural and relaxed though, very nice.

lilirishangel
Apr-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks! Glad you like them!

What do you think of the processing of the skin? Feel free to comment.

Look forward to you posting something of yours.

Neil


Mind you its not my style, but the light seems to be too strong on the bridge of his nose... And the skin color could be little darker. Might have underexposing it just 1/3 might have brought out the Olive skin against the white.. But then again what do I know..:bow

Ps would liek to post some of mine but I think one day I figure out how to get some of my pics from pbase to show in posts, things are different on Mac...lol

NeilL
Apr-17-2009, 02:21 AM
Appreciate your comments very much, thank you!

I have rechecked the CMY values on the skin, C is between 10% and 50% of M, and M is average 10% lower than Y. In the PS Info pane white is very close to neutral.

Ahmed is Saudi-Moroccan, so his skin color is distinct from Southern Mediterranean, Indian and Latino etc. As you can imagine, and it's the usual experience, authentic skin tone which is also pleasing is often difficult to achieve.

When you look at these, think "advertising" more than "portrait", this might make the glossiness of the skin and the artificiality of the poses more 'understandable'(?).

That's all in the way of context.

I have taken on board your remarks, and I'm going now to try an adjustment on the skin processing to bring it closer to what you both 'expect'.

Stay tuned!:D

jeffreaux2
Apr-17-2009, 06:19 AM
In regards ONLY to the processing on the skin....

I find it to be overly smoothed. It appears almost plasticky....as the texture is no longer apparent. Of the three, the third seems to have the strongest of this effect, though it is also evident in the others. IMO its a tad too much.

They are fun and energetic photos....whatever the purpose may be.

Very nice!:thumb

NeilL
Apr-17-2009, 11:58 AM
In regards ONLY to the processing on the skin....

I find it to be overly smoothed. It appears almost plasticky....as the texture is no longer apparent. Of the three, the third seems to have the strongest of this effect, though it is also evident in the others. IMO its a tad too much.

They are fun and energetic photos....whatever the purpose may be.

Very nice!:thumb

Thanks, Jeff! See below.

NeilL
Apr-17-2009, 12:01 PM
I've redone the last to try to bring it back from the problems you all have pointed out. How've I managed??


http://neilal.smugmug.com/photos/514538405_e4i7z-XL.jpg

lilirishangel
Apr-18-2009, 07:08 AM
It is a lot better than the first one. Its doesn't look to shiney along the bridge of the nose and on the cheek bones.. Is alittle more flattering..But like i say what do I know...lol

NeilL
Apr-18-2009, 08:52 AM
It is a lot better than the first one. Its doesn't look to shiney along the bridge of the nose and on the cheek bones.. Is alittle more flattering..But like i say what do I know...lol

Thanks for the encouragement! It just might do (maybe the best I can expect - it's not sharp, the main problem, I was doing a handheld ad lib in parlous indoor light - that's tempting fate!). I'll see what I can do with the other two.

lilirishangel
Apr-18-2009, 12:08 PM
good luck...