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sportsshooter06
Jan-23-2009, 04:24 AM
Some recent stuff.
Nikon D3, ISO 5000, 1/640, f2.8, 70-200vr or 24-70. wb 3700-3850.
Using new d3 firmware for 1st time, ver, 2.01
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459352324_6Uxbh-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459353894_oTjTg-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459354236_NNmje-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459339739_dWNe7-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459341589_UmqkE-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459346146_KtqE2-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459357328_PYU9S-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459357967_k8EdH-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459359335_aADeG-XL.jpg
http://sportsshooter.smugmug.com/photos/459361172_MHTHp-XL.jpg
Thanks for looking!
johng
Jan-23-2009, 06:00 AM
Hi Marc,
Still trying to get a little clarification. You must have missed the question in your other post - in a number of posts you use the term 'we'. So I'm curious if the work your posting is all photographs you personally have taken, or a mixture of yours and other photographers.
sportsshooter06
Jan-23-2009, 08:33 AM
Hi Marc,
Still trying to get a little clarification. You must have missed the question in your other post - in a number of posts you use the term 'we'. So I'm curious if the work your posting is all photographs you personally have taken, or a mixture of yours and other photographers.
John, Not being (can't think of the word) a long time ago someone told me, not to use I I I I I I I I I I I I I I , so there fore, I got in the habit of saying WE.
I do shoot, with a team. All photos are mine.
sportsshooter06
Jan-26-2009, 05:23 AM
John, sorry you did not respond to my answer, to your question.
Are the photos ok?
Wb, may be a little off? what do you think?
johng
Jan-26-2009, 06:31 AM
Marc - Sorry, didn't realize you were expecting a response back. You answered my question about the 'we' vs. 'I' and stated you weren't showing photos for the rest of your team, just the ones you took.
I think you've got some good action here. There's still a yellow tinge to a lot of these shots. For instance, shot 5 looks like natural skin tones to me. Compared, say, to the shot above it. Sharpness is good except for 4 & 9 which are soft. I think if you get the WB worked out these would really be great.
tjk60
Jan-26-2009, 06:43 AM
I think these are WAY to yellow and can be fixed very easily with auto color in Photoshop. I can post an example but only with your permission...
sportsshooter06
Jan-27-2009, 07:37 AM
I think these are WAY to yellow and can be fixed very easily with auto color in Photoshop. I can post an example but only with your permission...
tim
thanks, but not needed, the publications, that they are shot for can do there own color correction.
These photos are straight out of the camera, no PP at all, just no free time.
They may very well be slightly tinted, the lights are daylight balanced, the floors on most of these gyms are painted a color that reflects the light and adds some yellow tinge. The scene is as accurate as I can see, maybe i will try a slightly cooler K value next time 3500 or play around with the balance scale in the camera as i did saturday
johng
Jan-27-2009, 07:47 AM
tim
These photos are straight out of the camera, no PP at all, just no free time.
The scene is as accurate as I can see
Marc,
when no one commented you asked for feedback. So here's honest feedback. In multiple posts of yours people have pointed out the WB issue. It's an ongoing issue that you get defensive about when it's brought up. So the advice is - keep working on the WB because it's a consistent problem in your shots.
The second piece of advice is this - if you want people to give honest critique of your work take the time to process the images. "I didn't have time" is a poor excuse for a professional photographer. Public posts are in a lot of ways a portfolio of your work. If you don't respect your work enough to take the time to get the images right, why should others respect it? And like 95% of shooters out there (me included) your work needs post processing. It's not a knock on you personally - every single shot I take needs post processing.
Now, this may seem like rough public criticism, but in light of the tone of the reviews you give to others' work you should be able to accept harsh critique yourself. Especially when you actively seek out such critique when it isn't immediately forthecoming.
Jzazzi
Feb-04-2009, 07:50 PM
John is right on with his comments. You are posting some of your work in a public place for review, without putting any effort into making it presentable? Then you consistently ignore the constructive criticism from many users trying to help you (white balance much?). And now your defense is lack of free time or that someone else can worry about it.
Nothing special ... indeed.
-J
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