dgrin shootout 2006 - official chatter thread

[Andy]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??



*** all official info on the trip will be posted into this thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592) ***

[4labs]

A great way to spend my birthday!

[wxwax]

:wave

And I'll kick-in the extra $150 per night for a bed and a door. :evil

[wxwax]

A great way to spend my birthday!
Happy birthday, Eric! Which day?

[4labs]

P.S. Andy you must be the energizer bunny...When do you sleep?

[Steve Cavigliano]

:wave

And I'll kick-in the extra $150 per night for a bed and a door. :evil
What? No inroom bath request? You must have really liked that outside shower Sid :lol3


Count me in Andy. Just lemme know where and how much to send :thumb


Steve

[Ann McRae]

I'd sure like to come along!


ann

[SusanB]

Cool, I'm in :): Thanks Andy:thumb


Susan

[Harryb]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??
Hey Fink,

Not since the last episode of Deadwood has Linda heard such cursing as she did tonight when I read this post.

Lets see the Yosemite shoot was scheduled to coincide with my son's last leave before Iraq. Now Jason arrived in Kuwait on May 16, 2005. After doing his year in Iraq he is scheduled to return approximately 5/18 or 5/19/2006.

All I can say is may your cameras backfocus (I know that's not much of a curse since you own a Canon), may your lenses grow fungus, may the straps on your camera backpack rot, may your CF cards go sour, and may the legs on your tripod buckle.

Harry

[Andy]

Hey Fink,

Not since the last episode of Deadwood has Linda heard such cursing as she did tonight when I read this post.

Lets see the Yosemite shoot was scheduled to coincide with my son's last leave before Iraq. Now Jason arrived in Kuwait on May 16, 2005. After doing his year in Iraq he is scheduled to return approximately 5/18 or 5/19/2006.

All I can say is may your cameras backfocus (I know that's not much of a curse since you own a Canon), may your lenses grow fungus, may the straps on your camera backpack rot, may your CF cards go sour, and may the legs on your tripod buckle.

Harry

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! problem is, the follying weekend is mem day weekend, the prior weekend still chance of bad weather.... so...

hey! why not plan a reunion for the monday after the trip?????

[dragon300zx]

Argh. I was at the first one so how could I miss the second. Planning this far in advance will suck but I'll prolly be in.

[Nikolai]

Awesome!!!
This time I'm taking me daughter!!!
And I'm gonna go to Monuments Valley, too!!:clap

[DavidTO]

Who's in??

me and the wife.

[jwear]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in?? give me info to send the deposit will get to you asap Jeff

[pathfinder]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??


Kathy and I will be there, come rain or shine. Just let me know where to send the loot!! :D

[ian408]

In.

[Nikolai]

Awesome!!!
This time I'm taking me daughter!!!
And I'm gonna go to Monuments Valley, too!!:clapThen rent a jeep-like SUV and spend few extra days camping around. I missed the Monuments Valley last time, this time we're going in!

If any of you feel like camping we can try to match the plans..

[4labs]

Then rent a jeep-like SUV and spend few extra days camping around. I missed the Monuments Valley last time, this time we're going in!

If any of you feel like camping we can try to match the plans..
Nik,

Sid and I were talking about doing the same, renting an Rv so we know we have a shower and making a week of it.

[Andy]

Nik,

Sid and I were talking about doing the same, renting an Rv so we know we have a shower and making a week of it.


i really don't wanna know why you wanna shower with sid :uhoh but i am happy to say that there are showers for everyone at the two lodges we're saying!

[4labs]

i really don't wanna know why you wanna shower with sid :uhoh but i am happy to say that there are showers for everyone at the two lodges we're saying!Lol touche'

[wxwax]

i really don't wanna know why you wanna shower with sid :uhoh but i am happy to say that there are showers for everyone at the two lodges we're saying!
And bathrooms? I notice you didn't say anything about bathrooms. And floorboards? Will the rooms have floorboards? :evil :rofl

[Andy]

And bathrooms? I notice you didn't say anything about bathrooms. And floorboards? Will the rooms have floorboards? :evil :rofl

re-read the first post.. "with loos" :lol3

[dragon300zx]

Andy I don't they are gonna let you forget the bathroom thing.

[wxwax]

Andy I don't they are gonna let you forget the bathroom thing.
:nod :lol3

[Andy]

Andy I don't they are gonna let you forget the bathroom thing.
they're just jealous becuase i didn't have to hold it in for three days, AND stay away from the chile con carne :lol3

[ian408]

they're just jealous becuase i didn't have to hold it in for three days, AND stay away from the chile con carne :lol3
MMMM....lunch today...Super Burrito from Taqueria Latina. Carne Asada--hot.
Andy, when you're next in town for lunch, remind me and we can go to
Maria Elaina's over in 'viso.

Ian

[Andy]

MMMM....lunch today...Super Burrito from Taqueria Latina. Carne Asada--hot.
Andy, when you're next in town for lunch, remind me and we can go to
Maria Elaina's over in 'viso.

Ian


june 15, 16 :deal

[Nikolai]

Nik,

Sid and I were talking about doing the same, renting an Rv so we know we have a shower and making a week of it.
I spoke with some friends and they leaned me towards RV.. Flying to St.George (it's 1 hour away from Zion, unlike LV which is about 3 hrs). Renting RV for like 10 days... This way you can ditch the hotel payments..

Decisions, decisions..

[4labs]

I spoke with some friends and they leaned me towards RV.. Flying to St.George (it's 1 hour away from Zion, unlike LV which is about 3 hrs). Renting RV for like 10 days... This way you can ditch the hotel payments..

Decisions, decisions..Well you have a whole year to mull it over..

[David_S85]

Put my name down too, Andy.

I'll probably be driving the magic van out to St. George (the van already knows the way by itself).

Bathrooms. This is good. :): With both hot and cold running water? :confused

Never been to Bryce. All the other places in that neck of the woods, many many times though.

Let me know the details and deposit info.

Looking forward to finally meeting and hanging around with all the jokers here for a few days. Should be a lot of fun.



May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??

[Andy]

I'll probably be driving the magic van out


:nono you have to pedal there on a 1960's era schwinn :lol3

[David_S85]

:nono you have to pedal there on a 1960's era schwinn :lol3
Sorry, my Schwinn Phantom stays home for this trip.

Mrs. David_S85 has just asked what there is for the spouses to do while we're out baking in the sun and hiking up cliffs with 25 lbs. of gear (which she doesn't want to do). What activities did the spouses do on the last shootout? Or were they enslaved as personal sherpas?

[Michiel de Brieder]

must control urges.............


Defy smugmug shootout......


No mooooooooooooooore


I'm IN :D

[david_h]

I'd be very interested in coming - looks like everyone had a blast at Yosemite. My daughter says she would like to come as well.

We are going to Moab next month, for a couple of days. I've been mountain biking there in the past, but this trip is strictly for photography. Never been to the western side of UT at all.

I assume you'll be posting the deposit and payment into at soem point?

[Andy]

What activities did the spouses do on the last shootout? Or were they enslaved as personal sherpas?

mrs. shay: sherpa
mr. nightinggale (pathfinder): sherpa for mrs. pathfinder (nightingale)
mrs. hughes (mhughes): they all carried their own
mrs gubbs: baked her bun in the oven a bit, joined us for some, too. did *not* act as sherpa in any way, shape or form.


:lol3 there's lots to do, and as the event draws near we'll figure it out...

[gubbs]

mrs. shay: sherpa
mr. nightinggale (pathfinder): sherpa for mrs. pathfinder (nightingale)
mrs. hughes (mhughes): they all carried their own
mrs gubbs: baked her bun in the oven a bit, joined us for some, too. did *not* act as sherpa in any way, shape or form.


:lol3 there's lots to do, and as the event draws near we'll figure it out...
Fat chance :rofl

Andy,

Provisional yes, but I need a little time to plan and negotiate, can you give me a "first refusal"??

[Andy]

Fat chance :rofl

Andy,

Provisional yes, but I need a little time to plan and negotiate, can you give me a "first refusal"??


you'll have a new little one - plenty of room in that camper for the new bun! or, you can negotiate some quality "alone time" with you, your camera, and about 50 or so close friends :lol3 i believe harrod's has a department you can visit just prior to that discussion!

[tlittleton]

I am in. Last time I was at Bryce was 17 years ago. Ended up taking a great 8 mile hike. Just ran out of film too soon. I'm ready to get back there and get a lot more pics.

I might even be able to arrange transport from Vegas for a few.

[ehughes]

We're In...

[Nikolai]

I'm in.
I just don't know, 2 or 3 of us - my missus expressed an interest to join me and Helen on this trip.. With that RV plan becomes more and more interesting... Maybe even driving one from home and back with 3/4 of the family in it is not such a bad idea:-)
Of course, with women you never know for sure:-), but we're in:-)

[Andy]

Of course, with women you never know for sure

nik!










































:hide

[CatOne]

woohoo!

:D

[Skippy]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??
Owwwwww owwwwww I wanna come along, any chance of me bunking in with some other females ???? Skippy (Australia)
Ummmmmmm did I mention I can bring "Cherry Ripes" :huh :rofl

[Andy]

Ummmmmmm did I mention I can bring "Cherry Ripes" :huh :rofl

now you get right to it, dontcha?

skippy and 'gus have to pay in the coin of my realm, cherry ripes :lol3


skip, we'll work on dani haney coming on the trip, so that you'll have a roommate ok? :deal

[Skippy]

now you get right to it, dontcha?

skippy and 'gus have to pay in the coin of my realm, cherry ripes :lol3


skip, we'll work on dani haney coming on the trip, so that you'll have a roommate ok? :deal
That would be great........... I'm a good girl, I don't drink, and I don't smoke :)
Skippy .......holder of the Cherry Ripes :rofl

[Nikolai]

That would be great........... I'm a good girl, I don't drink, and I don't smoke :)
Skippy .......holder of the Cherry Ripes :rofl
Don't drink.. hmm, ok, we're gonna work on this one.. I have at least some experience in such a conversion, so maybe we can do something about it..:D

[Nikolai]

nik!
:hide
I'm just stating the well-known fact:D

Cheers, mate!:1drink

[wxwax]

I'm just stating the well-known fact:D

Cheers, mate!:1drink

There's a nice American expression that goes like this:

'When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.'

:lol3

[David_S85]

We are going to Moab next month, for a couple of days. I've been mountain biking there in the past, but this trip is strictly for photography. Never been to the western side of UT at all.

If you ever ride there again... stay away from the not-at-all-friendly Monitor-Merrimack trail. It's more of a Jeep road. It was on the ATB trail map, but there was 4" deep sand about a third of the way in. Couldn't ride it. Had to push the bikes through instead. It might be a good walk - and it's very scenic, but whatever you do... don't attempt to ride it. Plus, there's swarms of large hungry horse flies near the stream. Sunscreen. I can't say enough good about using copious amounts of sunscreen. Don't forget the sunscreen!

After you get five lifetime's worth of Kokopelli figurines at the 100+ gift stores in town, there is a nice air-conditioned movie theatre at the southern side of the town. Lots of really good sandwich shops too.

Arches NP is a stone's throw north (you knew that - but for readers of this thread...), but very very crowded on the weekends, so go there at odd times (early a.m. might be good) so you don't get dozens of tourists in every shot.

Oh, and did I mention to bring sunscreen?

[david_h]

..... but there was 4" deep sand about a third of the way in. Couldn't ride it. Had to push the bikes through instead. Yes, there were several crashes caused by running into deep sand at any kind of speed.

I must say, I'm looking forward to finding out if the beer at the Moab Brewery has improved since I was last there. It used to be a legend how bad it was.

One recomendation though for anyone driving to UT from Denver, one of the best steaks I've ever had was at the Mint Steakhouse in Silverthorne, CO. Don't let the look of the place turn you away :D

[Harryb]

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??
OK fink you didn't make it easy but Linda and I are in. If those bathrooms aren't up to snuff you will have deal with the wraith of Linda.

[Andy]

OK fink you didn't make it easy but Linda and I are in. If those bathrooms aren't up to snuff you will have deal with the wraith of Linda.

:clap :clap :clap

and don't worry. next may, 2006, of coure, it's porta-potty month! i'll have my sherpa waximondo tote one in special for you and linda :deal

[David_S85]

One recomendation though for anyone driving to UT from Denver, one of the best steaks I've ever had was at the Mint Steakhouse in Silverthorne, CO. Don't let the look of the place turn you away :D
Since I'll probably be driving out and back, I'll keep this food tip in mind as I drive down 70 to 15. Don't tell Andy, or the place will probably run out of food before I get there. :wink

[Andy]

Since I'll probably be driving out and back, I'll keep this food tip in mind as I drive down 70 to 15. Don't tell Andy, or the place will probably run out of food before I get there. :wink

it's already in the plans for steverino and gus and me to drive by :deal

[kudbegud]

count me in please!

i'm hoping to go to antelope canyon outside of page, arizona after the shoot-out. if anybody is also interested, i can scope out motels and tour guides. still lots of time. here's some shots from there to spark your interest:
http://www.antelopecanyon.com/photos.html

[Skippy]

Don't drink.. hmm, ok, we're gonna work on this one.. I have at least some experience in such a conversion, so maybe we can do something about it..:D
When I was 19 years old, I got sooooooooo drunk I got Alcohol Poisoning, and that my friend cured me of drinking for life :D

I was unconscious for several hours, and sick for a week, but hey it did the trick, cured me from ever becoming a drinker :rofl

I rarely ever drink at all, just can't handle the stuff, which isn't really a bad thing hu :D sometimes we just have to learn the lessons of life the hard way.

Skippy (Australia)

[gus]

it's already in the plans for steverino and gus and me to drive by :deal
...hmmm MY people are talking to HER people.

[OlgaJ]

One recomendation though for anyone driving to UT from Denver, one of the best steaks I've ever had was at the Mint Steakhouse in Silverthorne, CO. Don't let the look of the place turn you away :D
I'll think of you when I'm having dinner there next week. Yes, indeed, a good place to eat. :thumb

Olga

[blackwaterstudio]

I'm interested, looks like two.

[BridgeCity]

I am very interested! I would love to go. I'm in for 1; possibly 2.

I will also most likely be driving down from Portland, if there are any dgrinners in the area that would like to carpool, let me know. I will have my Jeep Grand Cherokee there, so I can volunteer to cart people around during the event as well. I can carry 5 (legally) :D

[CalfeeRider]

Me too! Count me in!

[david_h]

I'll think of you when I'm having dinner there next week. Yes, indeed, a good place to eat. :thumb

Olga I'll be there myself in a few weeks. Be staying within walking distance of The Mint, so I can wash down my steak with a few Fat Tire beers.

[Nikolai]

count me in please!

i'm hoping to go to antelope canyon outside of page, arizona after the shoot-out. if anybody is also interested, i can scope out motels and tour guides. still lots of time. here's some shots from there to spark your interest:
http://www.antelopecanyon.com/photos.html
I want it!!!:clap

[Nikolai]

I was unconscious for several hours..this conditions is called "get a little boozed":D

[nightingale]

mrs. shay: sherpa
mr. nightinggale (pathfinder): sherpa for mrs. pathfinder (nightingale)
mrs. hughes (mhughes): they all carried their own
mrs gubbs: baked her bun in the oven a bit, joined us for some, too. did *not* act as sherpa in any way, shape or form.


:lol3 there's lots to do, and as the event draws near we'll figure it out...
http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/bs.gif

nightingale

[Andy]

http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/bs.gif

nightingale

hmmm i'm certain that's not what jim told me!



























:hide

[pathfinder]

hmmm i'm certain that's not what jim told me!

:hide


Andrew, you are a trouble maker!! But it won't fly!!

I was pleased that Mrs Nightingale came along, but she did carry her own gear. She would not have it any other way.

She is not sure though about the Angel's Landing trail yet, that looks like a humdinger!!

[dragon300zx]

They wouldn't allow us all to take in ATV's for lugging our equipment would they? Some extreme offroading would be cool.

[Andy]

Andrew, you are a trouble maker!! But it won't fly!!

that's not what sherpa stephens told me! :lol3










































http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/16458414-Ti.gif

[pathfinder]

that's not what sherpa stephens told me! :lol3

http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/16458414-Ti.gif

:nono :nono You hafta consider the source....... That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!


:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

[pathfinder]

They wouldn't allow us all to take in ATV's for lugging our equipment would they? Some extreme offroading would be cool.

In a Nat Park they probably won't let you use a bicycle let alone an ATV.

[David_S85]

Yes, ATV's are prohibited. Bicycles? Dunno :dunno But.....

Llamas can be packed with quite a bit of weight, and they're good to very high altitudes. Didn't catch anything against Llamas though. My guess is that instead of Purina Llama Chow, they might eat Cherry Ripes (but that might prove costly). Anyone know where to rent Llamas in the southwest?


In a Nat Park they probably won't let you use a bicycle let alone an ATV.

[pathfinder]

Yes, ATV's are prohibited. Bicycles? Dunno :dunno But.....

Llamas can be packed with quite a bit of weight, and they're good to very high altitudes. Didn't catch anything against Llamas though. My guess is that instead of Purina Llama Chow, they might eat Cherry Ripes (but that might prove costly). Anyone know where to rent Llamas in the southwest?


I know there are outfitters in Colorado that do use llamas as pack animals. Not sure of a reference for Zion or Bryce, but Il'll bet googling will turn something up.

Here is one I found just for photographers. http://www.outdoorutah.com/Articles/llamas%20companions%20on%20the%20trail.htm

[David_S85]

And I thought I was making a funny about the Llamas. 80-100 pounds each, huh? Well, assuming there would be 80 people (60 photogs + spouses), each photog with 25 pounds of tripods, bodies and various glass per person... that could work out to 1 llama per 4 photogs - or 15 llamas.

Wait, Andy alone might need at least one llama, and perhaps two by then. He says he has a personal sherpa, but give the man a break and send his sherpa on a vacation of his/her own. We could request llama quotes for ~17-20 llamas. Maybe also a hire professional llama handler/feeder. There goes the Cherry Ripes budget.





I know there are outfitters in Colorado that do use llamas as pack animals. Not sure of a reference for Zion or Bryce, but Il'll bet googling will turn something up.

Here is one I found just for photographers. http://www.outdoorutah.com/Articles/llamas%20companions%20on%20the%20trail.htm

[kudbegud]

http://dgrin.com/images/icons/icon1.gif Antelope Canyon!


Quote:
Originally Posted by kudbegud
count me in please!

i'm hoping to go to antelope canyon outside of page, arizona after the shoot-out. if anybody is also interested, i can scope out motels and tour guides. still lots of time. here's some shots from there to spark your interest:
http://www.antelopecanyon.com/photos.html


I want it!!!http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
you got it Nik ! :thumb

[Andy]

And I thought I was making a funny about the Llamas. 80-100 pounds each, huh? Well, assuming there would be 80 people (60 photogs + spouses), each photog with 25 pounds of tripods, bodies and various glass per person... that could work out to 1 llama per 4 photogs - or 15 llamas.

Wait, Andy alone might need at least one llama, and perhaps two by then. He says he has a personal sherpa, but give the man a break and send his sherpa on a vacation of his/her own. We could request llama quotes for ~17-20 llamas. Maybe also a hire professional llama handler/feeder. There goes the Cherry Ripes budget.


llamas: :rolleyes :flip

[dragon300zx]

Yeah see the lugging the equipment was just an excuse for my real reason of wanting the ATV's there. The extreme offroading. :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

[Steve Cavigliano]

llamas: :rolleyes :flip

:lol3 :lol3 :lol3 :lol4 :lol4 :lol4 :lol :lol :lol

[lynnma]

DH and I will be roaming around the world by then (hopefully) and we'd love to roam to Zion and Bryce.. I can't say for certain tho.. we could just take our chances and wing it with a tent or RV at the last moment???:uhoh (I LOVE to camp out, he wont, so prob an rv, the wimp) Also love to hike Sid, but my mountaineering days are over, so is lugging the 43lbs pack.. now I can hardly carry my own butt up the hill:rofl and count me out for that steep steep climb :huh I'd have to crawl....
Count us in provisionally and I'll work on it like mad. Got my new notebook for the road anyway.. can't tell you what make it is cos you'd all throw rocks at me....got 60gig of hard drive and a dvd burner so I'm ready to take shots of all you kids.:thumb probably need an RV to carry all the Tanquaray and diet tonic.....:1drink

[Andy]

may 17 and 18: ruby's inn at bryce canyon
room charge: ~$93 per room per night

may 19 and 20: the lodge at zion national park
room charge: ~$144 per room per night

all rooms have two double beds and a private bath. costs are subject to change, per disclaimers by the hotels.

here's how to secure your space on the shootout:

send me, by paypal, $245 ($237 plus the paypal fee, sorry) to the following paypal address:

awilliamsny(at)mac(dot)com

once i have your deposit the rooms will be put in your actual name.







we have 30 rooms reserved at each hotel. reserve now, by sending me your deposit, so you can be sure of a spot :deal

[jwear]

OK fink you didn't make it easy but Linda and I are in. If those bathrooms aren't up to snuff you will have deal with the wraith of Linda. Harry you do meen by [UP TO SNUFF] that is with in walking distance and bring your own paper ---then your good to GO :D

[DavidTO]

Andy, I'd like to make a suggestion that you post important info like reservations, deposits and other particulars in a separate thread, a sticky that you lock, so that only you can post in it. We've got a year until this thing gets underway, and our 9 page thread will easily top 100 pages or more, and trying to find the important details becomes impossible. This is a problem we already had on the Yosemite trip. I like all the discussion that happens here, but it really gets in the way of finding the facts. Can we have a "Just the facts, ma'am" thread?

[jwear]

I am in --also Nick I will pm you about the extra days :thumb Andy you are going to give us the amount and when to deposit, the $ will be on it's way .Can not think of a better way to spend some $$ thanks Andy yosemite was a great trip :thumb

[Nikolai]

I am in --also Nick I will pm you about the extra days :thumb Andy you are going to give us the amount and when to deposit, the $ will be on it's way .Can not think of a better way to spend some $$ thanks Andy yosemite was a great trip :thumbIf we're doing the RV/camping thingie - we don't need the rooms.
If we're not - we do..
Darn, I was hoping there will be a bit more time to decide..:scratch

Andy, do you happen to know if there are RV parking spots next to those hotels?
Thanks!

[Andy]

Andy, I'd like to make a suggestion that you post important info like reservations, deposits and other particulars in a separate thread, a sticky that you lock, so that only you can post in it. We've got a year until this thing gets underway, and our 9 page thread will easily top 100 pages or more, and trying to find the important details becomes impossible. This is a problem we already had on the Yosemite trip. I like all the discussion that happens here, but it really gets in the way of finding the facts. Can we have a "Just the facts, ma'am" thread?


done (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592) :deal

[Andy]

Andy, do you happen to know if there are RV parking spots next to those hotels?
Thanks!


i don't - you can check the websites for ruby's inn @ bryce and the lodge at zion n.p.....

[Shay Stephens]

How much hiking are we talking about here? Cause I hate hiking.

[David_S85]

How much hiking are we talking about here? Cause I hate hiking.
Baldy posted pics somewhere about a possible small hiking adventure we could all try up to a place called Angel's Landing. The sign at the bottom said...

ANGEL'S LANDING

STRENUOUS CLIMB

NARROW ROUTE WITH CLIFF EXPOSURES

HAZARDOUS DURING
THUNDER STORMS, DARKNESS,
AND ICY/SNOW CONDITIONS

Now, I needn't worry you too much, but the last time I was there, I witnessed dozens of llama skeletons at the bottom of the cliffs and ravines.

[Shay Stephens]

Maybe I could stay behind and gaurd the boxes of cherry ripes from zombie llammas...



Now, I needn't worry you too much, but the last time I was there, I witnessed dozens of llama skeletons at the bottom of the cliffs and ravines.

[ian408]

Maybe I could stay behind and gaurd the boxes of cherry ripes from zombie llammas...
You do that. I'll get my tripod and set it up at the top looking over :D

Ian

[Shay Stephens]

Well then maybe the zombie llamas will decide to stampeed for some reason, and the dust kicked up in the air and all the confusion will make it impossible for you to see anything from up there. So there would be no way of knowing what I am doing, which of course would be gaurding the boxes of cherry ripes from the now rampaging zombie llamas. :uhoh

You do that. I'll get my tripod and set it up at the top looking over :D

Ian

[ian408]

Well then maybe the zombie llamas will decide to stampeed for some reason, and the dust kicked up in the air and all the confusion will make it impossible for you to see anything from up there. So there would be no way of knowing what I am doing, which of course would be gaurding the boxes of cherry ripes from the now rampaging zombie llamas. :uhoh
I could get lucky and end up with a beautiful lynnesite like photo of....ah...llamas :D

Ian

[tlittleton]

It's not that bad Shay. I once took Fairyland Loop trail there. It's only eight miles...with a small elevation change. Nothing big...about a 2000ft climb on the way out.:lol3

Course, that was what, 17 years ago? I'm a little softer around the edges than I was then...

How much hiking are we talking about here? Cause I hate hiking.

[Andy]

I am in --also Nick I will pm you about the extra days :thumb Andy you are going to give us the amount and when to deposit, the $ will be on it's way .Can not think of a better way to spend some $$ thanks Andy yosemite was a great trip :thumb


loook at the official info thread, sticky in the news forum :deal

[aero-nut]

Count me in!

[erich6]

Andy,

I would like to be part of this if there is room still left.

Thanks,

Erich

[Andy]

Andy,

I would like to be part of this if there is room still left.

Thanks,

Erich

great! look at the official info thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592), and send me the money via paypal, follow the instructions there :D

[Mongrel]

I'm discussing this with Mrs. Mongrel....

Is there room for two more?

Last time I was 'out West' was in 1973 :rolleyes .....makes me :cry just thinking about it....:rofl

Thanks,

Mongrel

[Andy]

I'm discussing this with Mrs. Mongrel....

Is there room for two more?

Last time I was 'out West' was in 1973 :rolleyes .....makes me :cry just thinking about it....:rofl

Thanks,

Mongrel


yes, there's room! hurry though :D

glad you guys are coming. we all had a blast last year.

[JohnR]

Got room for 2 more?

Will ask my wife this morning and will know in about an hour or two, after she wakes up! :rofl

So $245 would be total cost for rooms for the 4 nights?

[GREAPER]

Got room for 2 more?

Will ask my wife this morning and will know in about an hour or two, after she wakes up! :rofl

So $245 would be total cost for rooms for the 4 nights?

I plan to go, but cannot commit this early. I will plan to be there, but will make my own arrangments when I know if I can go.

[Andy]

I plan to go, but cannot commit this early. I will plan to be there, but will make my own arrangments when I know if I can go.

ok this is a sticky situation. i have booked enough rooms for the people we can support on the trip. you have time to make your decision, but when you do, we want you to take one of the rooms that we have reserved. :deal

thanks!

[JohnR]

Well, I guess we are on hold. My wife has to wait until she gets her school schedule, which is either next month or August. Hopefully you all will still have rooms left.

Or we can take our tent....

[Nikolai]

Money should be on the way to NYC:-)

After much of discussions my family decided to let me go on my own - again!

I guess I'll be bunking with some of you lads:-)

I'm still thinking of doing 10 days jeep/rv trip AFTER the official part.

The idea is to fly to St.George, rent a car (hopefully share with somebody), get to Bryce, move to Zion along with the crowd. Then on Sunday drive back to St.George, exchange the car for RV - and take off to Lake Powell, Antelope Canyon, Arches, etc.
Of course this would also require some reservation-cooperation, but I think it can be done later:-)

Cheers!:1drink

[JohnR]

There's a strong chance that I can go but I have a couple of questions:

1. The $245 deposit, is that for deposit on the place to stay? If not, what is it for? My wife would feel more comfortable if we knew what this money was going for.

2. Flying into Vegas..when are people going? That Thursday morning? How will I get to Bryce? Everyone leaving on Sunday?
My wife and kid might fly in on Friday and stay with me, is that possible?

3. Can anyone on the east coast recommend a cheap airline?

[Andy]

There's a strong chance that I can go but I have a couple of questions:

1. The $245 deposit, is that for deposit on the place to stay? If not, what is it for? My wife would feel more comfortable if we knew what this money was going for.

2. Flying into Vegas..when are people going? That Thursday morning? How will I get to Bryce? Everyone leaving on Sunday?
My wife and kid might fly in on Friday and stay with me, is that possible?

3. Can anyone on the east coast recommend a cheap airline?

the deposit goes to my lens acquisition fund :lol3

seriouisly, john - all the poop you need is in the official info thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592) which is sticky in this forum, too...

as to airlines, they practically give away seats to vegas - shop around, try expedia (www.expedia.com) :deal

hope you decide to come!

[Andy]

Got room for 2 more?

Will ask my wife this morning and will know in about an hour or two, after she wakes up! :rofl

So $245 would be total cost for rooms for the 4 nights?

no - the $245 is deposit for one night at each hotel. you'll owe an equal amount for the second night at each hotel, since you and mrs johnr will be bunking together :D

[Flyinggina]

I am seriously considering joining the 2006 shootout but I probably won't be able to commit until mid August or so, at which point I hope there will still be space. Meanwhile, I thought I would let people know that, as my husband has declined to come and carry my equipment for me (:dunno ), I would be happy to share a room with another woman. If anyone is interested, kindly send me a private message.


Virginia

[Andy]

I am seriously considering joining the 2006 shootout but I probably won't be able to commit until mid August or so, at which point I hope there will still be space. Meanwhile, I thought I would let people know that, as my husband has declined to come and carry my equipment for me (:dunno ), I would be happy to share a room with another woman. If anyone is interested, kindly send me a private message.


Virginia

excellent :thumb we'll hook you up wiht skippy (australia) or dani (gotta work on convincing her to come :deal) for sure we need some more dgrin women on the trip, lemme tellya that lookin' at some of these guys at 5am every morning ain't no picnic :uhoh :lol3

[CalfeeRider]

Hey Andy, can you update the totals to give me (us) a sense for how quickly these rooms are filling? I'm debating whether to go solo, or book a room for two. Thanks!

[Andy]

Hey Andy, can you update the totals to give me (us) a sense for how quickly these rooms are filling? I'm debating whether to go solo, or book a room for two. Thanks!
jack, it's all in the official info thread, which is sticky in this forum..... take a look :deal

[CalfeeRider]

I'm also thinking of doing some extra time, but as a pre-shootout excursion to take advantage of the previous weekend and making a full week out of it. Since the shootout starts on a Wed, I'd thought of heading off either the Friday evening before, or early Saturday morning. No specific plans yet and at this point I'm open to either driving to hit Death Valley on the way, or flying over and renting a car to go to Antelope, Arches or the Painted Desert area.

Any interest, let me know!

[Nikolai]

I'm also thinking of doing some extra time, but as a pre-shootout excursion to take advantage of the previous weekend and making a full week out of it. Since the shootout starts on a Wed, I'd thought of heading off either the Friday evening before, or early Saturday morning. No specific plans yet and at this point I'm open to either driving to hit Death Valley on the way, or flying over and renting a car to go to Antelope, Arches or the Painted Desert area.

Any interest, let me know!
I did the pre-shooting last time - started Monday, drove up 101/PCH through Solvang, Hearst Castle, Big Sur, Carmel, SF and ended up in Yosemity. Now I think it was mistake - I learned so much during the shootout that I almost want to redo the pre-trip again - I would shoot the whole thing so differently.

That's why I'm planning the post-shooting in 2006 (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12147&highlight=2006).
It has the following advantages:
1) you'd have two half-workweeks (one before, one after), so it will be easier at work:-)
2) mid-week flying/driving is usually easier
3) you'd be in a top-notch shape photo-wise, so all those nice places will be covered with the utmost creativity and technical excellence..

Wanna joind the crowd? We were thinking of getting few jeeps/RVs, share the expenses and having fun...

Cheers!

[Sandy]

I am thinking seriously of making the 2006 shootout, but need to figure out the logistics. When I have time I will read through all of the comments, I'm working on a photo shoot today, staged with about 30 models, not my shoot, but it should be a lot of fun.

[Nikolai]

I'm working on a photo shoot today, staged with about 30 models, not my shoot, but it should be a lot of fun.
Need some help shooting;-)? I'm like only 30 miles away:-):):

[Flyinggina]

excellent :thumb we'll hook you up wiht skippy (australia) or dani (gotta work on convincing her to come :deal) for sure we need some more dgrin women on the trip, lemme tellya that lookin' at some of these guys at 5am every morning ain't no picnic :uhoh :lol3
With a comeon like that, how can I resist? :rofl I'll confirm ASAP.

Virginia

[Skippy]

With a comeon like that, how can I resist? :rofl I'll confirm ASAP.

Virginia
I promise I don't snore :rofl and I speak two languages, English and Australian :lol4 :lol hmmmmmm I gotta bring over an Ozzie Slang Book for sure :rolleyes

I'm really looking forward to next years event..... Skippy (Australia)

[Nikolai]

I promise I don't snore :rofl and I speak two languages, English and Australian :lol4 :lol hmmmmmm I gotta bring over an Ozzie Slang Book for sure :rolleyes

I'm really looking forward to next years event..... Skippy (Australia)
Now you need to solidify your schedule for the post-action, too:-)

[Skippy]

Now you need to solidify your schedule for the post-action, too:-)
Getting the time off is not a problem :D
I just need to know where I need to be trying to fly in and out of.

Until a final decision is made I really can't do anything........but yeah I wanna go with you folks after the event :D :D :D I do I do I do.

So I shall keep watching this thread, if you think I didn't seen a message that maybe I should have, please let me know wont you.

I've already put in a tentative date at work for next years holidays.

Take Care Nikolai.......... Skippy (Australia)

[Michiel de Brieder]

Now you got me thinking about the post event too :D hmmm, I'll check with my BUM if he's allright with it :lol plan ahead he always says :rofl

[ajgauthier]

excellent :thumb we'll hook you up wiht skippy (australia) or dani (gotta work on convincing her to come :deal) for sure we need some more dgrin women on the trip, lemme tellya that lookin' at some of these guys at 5am every morning ain't no picnic :uhoh :lol3
I can't commit now, but by the end of the summer I'll know better. I've always wanted to go up there...it'll be nice to be w/ a bunch of folks who on a hike won't say, "What...are you taking MORE pictures? Geezus!" I'd need to share a room w/ females, and I'd be driving up from Tucson...which means I'd most likely do a pre- or post- Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, Sedona add on to the trip if anyone is interested in flying in or out of Tucson (to be discussed later...since I really don't know any of you) The Slot Canyons (Antelope) are interesting, but if you checkout what Arizona Highways mag says, you've got to really be into climbing into teeny places to get through some of the areas to get to the good photo opps.

Adrienne

[Nikolai]

I can't commit now, but by the end of the summer I'll know better. I've always wanted to go up there...it'll be nice to be w/ a bunch of folks who on a hike won't say, "What...are you taking MORE pictures? Geezus!" I'd need to share a room w/ females, and I'd be driving up from Tucson...which means I'd most likely do a pre- or post- Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, Sedona add on to the trip if anyone is interested in flying in or out of Tucson (to be discussed later...since I really don't know any of you) The Slot Canyons (Antelope) are interesting, but if you checkout what Arizona Highways mag says, you've got to really be into climbing into teeny places to get through some of the areas to get to the good photo opps.

Adrienne
For the vast majority of participants Vegas probably would be "Da Airport", since airfare can we very cheap. But you as a "local gal" may be one of our guides, especially if you can find time to fmiliarize yourself with the locations and maybe even scout out some places couple of times beforehand.. Just a thought!
We'll be looking to meet you next year!:thumb
Cheers!:1drink

[wxwax]

I'd need to share a room w/ females


Thanks for the reminder, Adrienne.

Andy, I need to share a room w/ females too.

[ajgauthier]

For the vast majority of participants Vegas probably would be "Da Airport", since airfare can we very cheap. But you as a "local gal" may be one of our guides, especially if you can find time to fmiliarize yourself with the locations and maybe even scout out some places couple of times beforehand.. Just a thought!
We'll be looking to meet you next year!:thumb
Cheers!:1drink
hi Nik,

I am still about 6 hours drive south of the Grand Canyon, 4.5 of Sedona, and a good day's drive from Utah. So - I can scout in Tucson, but not way up there! I also won't be driving through Vegas, I'd be coming up from the Southeast side of the Grand Canyon.

Adrienne

[ajgauthier]

hiya - try perusing or contacting these guys for more local info in Bryce/Zion/Grand Canyon/Slot Canyons, etc.

http://www.friendsofazhighways.com/

They may even have workshops going on around the same time y'all be near the area.

Adrienne

[Flyinggina]

Hey Andy. I just sent off my deposit. Really looking forward to the 2006 shootout and to the excuse to buy a new lens or six!


Virginia

[Andy]

Hey Andy. I just sent off my deposit. Really looking forward to the 2006 shootout and to the excuse to buy a new lens or six!


Virginia

got it! looking forward to meeting you, virginia :D

[Nikolai]

hiya - try perusing or contacting these guys for more local info in Bryce/Zion/Grand Canyon/Slot Canyons, etc.

http://www.friendsofazhighways.com/

They may even have workshops going on around the same time y'all be near the area.

Adrienne
Small world: I started to browse through the site and immediately saw Marc Muench's pikcha:
http://www.friendsofazhighways.com/faq.htm

[Andy]

thiago sigrist will be joining us at the 2006 shootout, all the way from brazil :D

:clap

[Michiel de Brieder]

thiago sigrist will be joining us at the 2006 shootout, all the way from brazil :D

:clap :clap :clap :clap

*EXCELLENT*

[Nikolai]

thiago sigrist will be joining us at the 2006 shootout, all the way from brazil :D

:clap
WTG, Thiago!
Now you need to sign up for the post-trip (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12147):-) Afterall, it's kinda costly to go all the distance for 3 days only:-)

[Andy]

:clap ann mcrae will be joining us from western canada :D w00t!

[gluwater]

I've been thinking about doing something like this for a long time and now I have found it here. My question is this. I am fairly new to photography and am still learning the basics. I would absolutely love to go on this trip but I think I may be out of my element. But on the other hand I think this would be a trip of a lifetime for me and I would learn soo much from everyone there. Everyone on Grin has been very nice and informative but please answer honestly, would it be worth it for me to do this or would I be a fish out of water getting on peoples nerves by asking "stupid" questions? Your input is greatly appreciated.
Nick

[David_S85]

You just answered your own question - "I think this would be a trip of a lifetime for me and I would learn soo much from everyone there." Yup, :nod there will be plenty of opportunities to learn there, and from and for everyone. Each photographer has their own niche, so not learning something new would be pretty much impossible. And that's why I am signed up too. Always more to learn, and to share what I know about to others also.

"...and am still learning the basics..." So you will stand to learn the most there, right? And yes, it would be worth going. Everybody learns more every day. I don't know a pro (at any endeavor, really) who would dare say they already know enough not to attend an opportunity such as this.

And the scenery (and food too, knowing how Andy picks these places) will be great, so what's not to like? Or fear? :dunno

Spouses of some are also traveling out there, and some of them don't know one end of a camera from the other, so it's not just about photography.



I've been thinking about doing something like this for a long time and now I have found it here. My question is this. I am fairly new to photography and am still learning the basics. I would absolutely love to go on this trip but I think I may be out of my element. But on the other hand I think this would be a trip of a lifetime for me and I would learn soo much from everyone there. Everyone on Grin has been very nice and informative but please answer honestly, would it be worth it for me to do this or would I be a fish out of water getting on peoples nerves by asking "stupid" questions? Your input is greatly appreciated.
Nick

[lark]

Exciting trip idea! Count me in.

Den

[Andy]

Exciting trip idea! Count me in.

Den

great, denny - see the info thread in this forum, and pls send me a deposit as soon as you can.

[gluwater]

I've decided to grab life with both hands (anyone get the obscure reference?). Count me in, it's about time I start living.

[Andy]

I've decided to grab life with both hands (anyone get the obscure reference?). Count me in, it's about time I start living.


cool! got your paypal, looking forward to meeting you :D

[gluwater]

Thanks, I already can't wait to go!

[Andy]

denny (lark) is coming! :clap

[Andy]

jack buchanan's coming :clap

[David_S85]

Found this at Amazon...

Frommer's Zion & Bryce Canyon National Parks. Paperback. Don Laine. ISBN: 0764542877

Some of the chapter titles that may become important to some...

Ch.3, Sec. 4, pg. 47 How to See the Park in 1 to 2 Days
Ch.8, Sec. 3, pg. 124 Where to Eat
INDEX Section, Restaurant Index

[Flyinggina]

Hi Andy,


I'm back on my DLS line at home after being away for 6 weeks stuck with a slowwwwww phone line hookup. Being home is definitely good. :1drink

Have a female photo friend who has indicated interest in shootout 2006. As in my case, landscape photography is not her niche, but she is interested in learning and loves to hike etc. Is there still room?

Virginia

[Andy]

Hi Andy,


I'm back on my DLS line at home after being away for 6 weeks stuck with a slowwwwww phone line hookup. Being home is definitely good. :1drink

Have a female photo friend who has indicated interest in shootout 2006. As in my case, landscape photography is not her niche, but she is interested in learning and loves to hike etc. Is there still room?

Virginia
yup - for sure - please read the sticky info thread, and have her send me a deposit :deal

[Nikolai]

I just uploaded a bunch of old pictures from August 2003, when my dad, my youngest a, my brand new (then) Murrano and me took a trip to Grand, Bryce and Zion canyons.
So for those of you who haven't been there - you can prepare thyself:
http://nik.smugmug.com/2003/103591

HTH

[Andy]

cat-one is coming!

:clap

[DavidTO]

cat-one is coming!

:clap

and his better half???

[Andy]

and his better half???

standby, i'm checking :dunno

[Andy]

and his better half???


yes, mrs cat0ne is coming, paola :D

[Andy]

jt, and mrs t

in!

[Andy]

ian's in :D

[Mitchell]

Anyone bringing a non-photographically oriented spouse?

[David_S85]

Anyone bringing a non-photographically oriented spouse?
Yup. :nod

[Andy]

Anyone bringing a non-photographically oriented spouse?

who do you think does the cooking and cleaning and schlepping of gear? :lol3 :lol3 :lol3

















































































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[ian408]

who do you think does the cooking and cleaning and schlepping of gear? :lol3 :lol3 :lol3

















































































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[Mitchell]

I'd better hide these responses from my wife if I have any hope of going!:wink

[Andy]

I'd better hide these responses from my wife if I have any hope of going!:wink


:lol3 there are a few folks that won't shoot, or don't shoot much. david mentioned mrs _s85, and there's toni (baldy's better half). betcha there'll be some more, too.

[Andy]

rutt's in :thumb

[DavidTO]

rutt's in :thumb


No doubt he wants to work on the canyon conundrum and LAB processing a la Margulis. Looking forward to shooting with him (and everyone else).

On another note, my wife's signed up, and she's not a shooter (she shoots a little, but she's no junkie). Not sure if she's really going to make it, but people were asking about non-shooters.

[pathfinder]

rutt's in :thumb
Cool!!

[Andy]

skippy's coming :D :thumb

[tonyd]

Just stumbled upon this. Sounds like fun and if rooms still available I'd like to join in. Just curious about some of the logistics of the trip. Assuming I fly into Las Vegas what is the plan for transportation to Bryce and Zion? Do we make our own arrangements or is there going to be some type of group transportation arranged. I looked through the postings and didn't notice any mention of this - sorry if I missed it...

Tony

[lynnma]

:cry Wont be able to be at the shoot out..:cry I'll be out of the country...

If I can get back I will.. should be a wonderful time..

[Andy]

Just stumbled upon this. Sounds like fun and if rooms still available I'd like to join in. Just curious about some of the logistics of the trip. Assuming I fly into Las Vegas what is the plan for transportation to Bryce and Zion? Do we make our own arrangements or is there going to be some type of group transportation arranged. I looked through the postings and didn't notice any mention of this - sorry if I missed it...

Tony
there'll be carpools, i'm sure. contribute $$ for gas or car rental, and pile in. that'll be arranged prior to the trip, closer in.

see the official thread for how to sign up :D

[tonyd]

there'll be carpools, i'm sure. contribute $$ for gas or car rental, and pile in. that'll be arranged prior to the trip, closer in.

see the official thread for how to sign up :D
Ok thanks.
Probably to early to ask, but wondering if there is any favorite place most will stay in Las Vegas. I assume we will be traveling early Wed morning to Bryce? and back from Zion sometime Sunday? I'm just trying to figure out whats best for flights in/out of Vegas:scratch

[Andy]

Ok thanks.
Probably to early to ask, but wondering if there is any favorite place most will stay in Las Vegas.

you'll find me in the craps pit at mgm grand :lol3

[Andy]

you'll find me in the craps pit at mgm grand :lol3

tonyd, you're in, got your deposit :D

[nwilkins]

Andy,

Sorry to be so dense, but how does one go about using Paypal to sign up for the trip? I'm not sure where to start. Saw your e-mail address to send it to, but am lost as to how to begin.http://www.dgrin.com/images/icons/sad.gif

Thanks!

Nancy

[Andy]

Andy,

Sorry to be so dense, but how does one go about using Paypal to sign up for the trip? I'm not sure where to start. Saw your e-mail address to send it to, but am lost as to how to begin.http://www.dgrin.com/images/icons/sad.gif

Thanks!

Nancy


if you're already signed up with www.paypal.com then you simply "send money" to me at my paypal email address awilliamsny at mac dot com.

if you're not signed up, you need to do that, first.... alternatively, if you wish to send me a check, that's fine, too. you can pm me for a snail mail addy.

[kudbegud]

I hope you will be interested in the post shoot-out great circle shooting excursion to antelope slot canyon, monument valley, mexican hat, valley of the gods, natural bridges, canyon lands n.p. and arches n.p.

7 more days of photographic fun with your fellow dgrinners. total time needed for both the main shoot-out and the extended multi park shooting experience is less than 2 weeks. maximize your vacation! sign up for all of it or part of it.

check out the post shoot-out thread for the latest itinerary. http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12147&page=6&pp=10 post #58. 12 maximum for the antelope slot canyon! 2 hour photographers guided tour at the canyon.

[Andy]

nancy wilkins (nwilkins) is in! :clap

[gluwater]

Trying to figure out flight info and I'm wondering when others are planning on getting there? Are most people flying in on the 16th or early AM on the 17th?

What are the "official" plans on when and where everyone is to meet up on the 17th? I figure I should just take care of everything now so I don't forget later.

[David_S85]

Trying to figure out flight info and I'm wondering when others are planning on getting there? Are most people flying in on the 16th or early AM on the 17th?

What are the "official" plans on when and where everyone is to meet up on the 17th? I figure I should just take care of everything now so I don't forget later.
At least one of us is doing something totally idiotic - like driving all the way out there. :rolleyes Mrs. D_S85 tells me this plan is more than wacko, so she will be flying as I am shooting :photo my way across the country. If she has her way, I will be kidnapped and forced to fly also.

Our plan, as yet not set, is to arrive a day early in Bryce and poke around until the critical mass arrives. We'll also try to stick around an extra day at Zion.

[Andy]

Trying to figure out flight info and I'm wondering when others are planning on getting there? Are most people flying in on the 16th or early AM on the 17th?

What are the "official" plans on when and where everyone is to meet up on the 17th? I figure I should just take care of everything now so I don't forget later.

too soon to announce this yet ... stay tuned!

[gluwater]

At least one of us is doing something totally idiotic - like driving all the way out there. :rolleyes Mrs. D_S85 tells me this plan is more than wacko, so she will be flying as I am shooting :photo my way across the country. If she has her way, I will be kidnapped and forced to fly also.

Our plan, as yet not set, is to arrive a day early in Bryce and poke around until the critical mass arrives. We'll also try to stick around an extra day at Zion.
David if I could I would do the same thing but that is a really long drive that I cannot take the time off to do. I do know of another that is doing the same thing though so your not the only one with crazy ideas.

[Andy]

David your not the only one with crazy ideas.

yes, but it is an elite fraternity :lol3

[Andy]

Greaper and the missus are coming :clap

[David_S85]

yes, but it is an elite fraternity :lol3
Andy means this in a good way, right?

[Andy]

Andy means this in a good way, right?
mais certainment, mon ami :thumb

[kudbegud]

This Friday, 11/11/05, the Travel Channel will have a program on called "The Secrets of Zion & Bryce". Set your VCR's or DVR's. :lurk
the link:http://travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=106467&gid=0&channel=TRV

[Nikolai]

This Friday, 11/11/05, the Travel Channel will have a program on called "The Secrets of Zion & Bryce". Set your VCR's or DVR's. :lurk
the link:http://travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=106467&gid=0&channel=TRV
Hope it's HD:-)

[ian408]

Speaking of which, Frommer's has got a nice little guide book, Zion & Bryce
Canyon National Parks as do Lonely Planet (same title).

Either would be a great asset in planning your trip. There are several good
maps of the area too. One of which is the National Geographic's Zion National
Park map.

Something you can do that's a fun little excercise in planning is to build up a
shot list based on the sun's position in the sky. Say you wanted to shoot
The Three Patriarchs, would you shoot it at Sunrise, Sunset or some
other time? Sounds easy but it's a bit tricky and you might want to account
for several factors. Including the altitude of surrounding objects as well as
the angle of the sun and the height of your eye.

This was my attempt at deciding what I wanted to shoot. Anybody have
other ideas?

Ian

[David_S85]

Ian, see post #142 in this thread. :D


Speaking of which, Frommer's has got a nice little guide book, Zion & Bryce
Canyon National Parks as do Lonely Planet (same title).
Ian

[ian408]

Ian, see post #142 in this thread. :D

I did.

[Nikolai]

Thanks to Kudbegud, I was able to record this Discovery Travel one hour feature on my PVR. It's not HD (sigh), but it's well worth watching. It was great to see the same places I so vividly remember from my 2003 trip.

It also brings up a question, most likely to Andy: do we already have an more-or-less specified "route" agendas for both canyons, especially for Zion?

The reason I'm asking is that Bryce is far smaller and far more accessible. Well defined sunrise/sunset vantage points, just a handful of a relatively short and very easy (2-3) hiking trails make Bryce a relatively easy target even for a limited time frame.

Zion, on the other hand, is huge, and if you wanna get some really nice and unique shots you have to be ready for some pretty intense hikes (http://www.zionnational-park.com/hiking-zion-national-park.htm). Upper Emerald Pool (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-emerald-pools-trail.htm) (guide says 1 hour but in fact it's more like 2 or 3, unless you simply run back and forth), Angels Landing (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-angels-landing-trail.htm) (guide says 5 hours, I'd say it's more like 8 - and have 8Gb worth of media ready).
And the slot canyons of The Narrows - I'm not even sure how to approach it with all our heavy yet delicate photo gear.

Of course, there are easy vistas, too (Weeping Rock (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-weeping-rock-trail.htm), and such), but if you are in a good hiking shape and would like to take some breath-taking shots you better start planning now...

Andy?

[kudbegud]

i got these at Borders, both are very good:
Moon Handbook: Zion & Bryce
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1566915511/104-2731147-2806337?v=glance&n=283155&no=%2A&s=books&v=glance
Photographing the Southwest Vol 1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0916189082/ref=bxgy_cc_img_b/104-2731147-2806337?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[kudbegud]

the bryce and zion program replays nov 21

http://travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=106467&gid=9286&channel=TRV

[Andy]

the bryce and zion program replays nov 21

http://travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=106467&gid=9286&channel=TRV


:thumb Thanks - I just Tivo'd it.

[Andy]

Guys- no responding to yourself :lol3

[aero-nut]

Hmmm...so I was sitting here reading the latest in this forum, and my MP3 player started playing the song "Set Your Eyes To Zion" by P.O.D.

I haven't read the stuff in this forum for months...hmmm is it a sign that I need to get my act together and see if there are any spots left? I think so. http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/mwink.gif

[Andy]

Hmmm...so I was sitting here reading the latest in this forum, and my MP3 player started playing the song "Set Your Eyes To Zion" by P.O.D.

I haven't read the stuff in this forum for months...hmmm is it a sign that I need to get my act together and see if there are any spots left? I think so. http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/mwink.gif


we have room for you! (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592)

[davev]

My wonderful bride has given me the OK to sign up for the shoot-out.

Andy, I have sent the paypal cash for the wife and I.

We're in.

Davev and Katev.

[Andy]

Dave V and Aero-Nut are IN :clap

[Andy]

Dave V and Aero-Nut are IN :clap


Dave V and Mrs. Dave (Kate) coming!

[aero-nut]

Dave V and Aero-Nut are IN :clapLooking forward to it! Thanks a bunch for setting up another one of these outstanding events, Andy. Hmmmm...what to buy...what to buy...:super

[Andy]

the bryce and zion program replays nov 21

http://travel.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=106467&gid=9286&channel=TRV


BUMP - this show is on today, Discovery Travel Channel, 4pm Eastern- look it up on your local systems.

[Andy]

Please be aware that reservations to hike to the Wave are needed and
extremely scarce. Only 10 a day are allowed and reservations fill up
within the first TWO HOURS of being offered for the ENTIRE YEAR. Both North
and South Coyote Buttes need reservations. Do a Google and see what you
need to do.

Good luck.

got this in an email yesterday...

[David_S85]

Just got these in the mail today! Hey Andy, do we have to wear these things everywhere for the entire four days?

http://www.dgrin.davidwattsphotography.com/shootoutdogtag.jpg

[Allen]

They'll probably want a DNA sample next, just in case the tags are also mangled beyond recognition. Those shoot-outs
must be rough on the body.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Andy]

Just got these in the mail today! Hey Andy, do we have to wear these things everywhere for the entire four days?

http://www.dgrin.davidwattsphotography.com/shootoutdogtag.jpg

:lol3 LOVE IT!

[gus]

.

[David_S85]

Actually two of those are correct. I am allergic to dairy, and that is my real phone number. How'd you know?

Gus, this might help to add more realism to your edit:
http://www.dogtagsgenerator.com

[gus]

/

[Andy]

:lol3 @ Gus !


OK, who's up for some Canyoneering? (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-red-cave.htm) :ear

[David_S85]

:lol3 @ Gus !


OK, who's up for some Canyoneering? (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-red-cave.htm) :ear
I would be, but from the pictures, I don't think my Canyonero can be driven through some of those tight spaces. :uhoh

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thesimpsons/canyonero.htm

[Skippy]

Heyyyyyyyyy.......... boy oh boy the time is flying by.


Okay.....forgive me for asking but I need to book my flights real soon to ensure getting to the 2006 on the right days :D

What airport do I need to fly to in UTAH ?? or is there only one there? and the date in USA would be what date ? and then how does one get from the Airport to where all you folks are gonna be ???

Please don't make me search the thread....I've been working my butt off for months now :D

Next question............ Nik...........what date will it be when the Post Shoot Out finishes, and is it for sure finishing in Las Vegas ???

I have to sort out all the internal flights within USA the external ones are not a problem .

Hope someone can sum it all up for me ........ Skippy (Australia)

[David_S85]

Skippy, your best bet is probably Las Vegas' Mc Carran Interdimensional Airport. Then rent a car and climb the next 5,000 feet to Bryce for 'bout 100+ miles or so (I need to check the mileage of that - just guessing).

And yes, I did say Interdimensional. There are some strange people hanging about there. Aliens perhaps. The Area 51 flights for the workers take off from there. And no, I'm not kidding about that. Have your camera primed and ready.


Heyyyyyyyyy.......... boy oh boy the time is flying by.
Okay.....forgive me for asking but I need to book my flights real soon to ensure getting to the 2006 on the right days :D
What airport do I need to fly to in UTAH ??

[kudbegud]

skippy

your going on the after part too, right? i'm flying into vegas on wednesday. nik is picking me up at the motel 6 on thursday morning then on to bryce. after the whole trip, we are staying at the same motel 6 on saturday night, 5/27. i'm staying for sunday and leaving on monday morning. http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.asp?MotelId=1324&state=NV&full=Las%20Vegas%20-%20I-15&city=Las%20Vegas

contact nik to confirm up everything....see ya there!

[Flyinggina]

A fellow photographer told me last night that having a National Parks Pass lets you bypass lines getting into the parks. Maybe this won't be much of an issue in mid-May. :dunno You can get one good for a year from first use online for $50 by going to https://buy.nationalparks.org/default.asp? Guess only folks who will be driving into the parks would need it, but is it worth it? Necessary? Advisable?

Virginia

[ian408]

A fellow photographer told me last night that having a National Parks Pass lets you bypass lines getting into the parks. Maybe this won't be much of an issue in mid-May. :dunno You can get one good for a year from first use online for $50 by going to https://buy.nationalparks.org/default.asp? Guess only folks who will be driving into the parks would need it, but is it worth it? Necessary? Advisable?

Virginia

Doesn't really get you ahead of anyone but if you are a frequent park visitor,
any park, it will pay for itself on the third visit.

I usually buy one because it does save me money but also because it supports
the parks.

Ian

[davev]

My wife and I are going to get one cause we're going to stop at Arches
on the way down. I think its $20 per park, so like Ian said, I save $10 by
buying it.

[David_S85]

One of my retired friends told me his National Park Pass was something like $15 lifetime, once one reaches a certain age. I don't know if that's true yet. I should go look at their website. We will be ordering our passes early next year. Either way, they're a good deal. Remember, we'll be visiting two parks already. That'll about pay for them right there.

[Flyinggina]

One of my retired friends told me his National Park Pass was something like $15 lifetime, once one reaches a certain age. I don't know if that's true yet. I should go look at their website. We will be ordering our passes early next year. Either way, they're a good deal. Remember, we'll be visiting two parks already. That'll about pay for them right there.

Yep. There is a Golden Age Passport for full time US residents who are 62 or older that I believe you have to buy in person at one of the national parks. I guess they want to count the grey hairs. :rofl Anyway, there is info about it on the website. I qualify :cry and plan to look into getting one after the holidays. Or maybe I'll just get one when I get to Bryce. I'm beginning to get excited about the shoot. :clap But gotta keep my mind on my Christmas list etc. etc. for the moment. The 25th is coming up fast. :D

Virginia

Virginia

[Michiel de Brieder]

Zion hiking (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-red-cave.htm) Oy Andy! That looks excellent! anybody up for it??? I may even consider buying a 35 F/1.4 for this :D just a 20D and that lens will suffice for some serious shots and not being bothered by the camera while hiking!!!

[Nikolai]

One of my retired friends told me his National Park Pass was something like $15 lifetime, once one reaches a certain age. I don't know if that's true yet. I should go look at their website. We will be ordering our passes early next year. Either way, they're a good deal. Remember, we'll be visiting two parks already. That'll about pay for them right there.
One can purchase All-in-one for $40 and have it working for *all* national parks for the year. That's what we gonna do (I mean those who are doing both official and post shootouts).

[Nikolai]

Zion hiking (http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-red-cave.htm) Oy Andy! That looks excellent! anybody up for it??? I may even consider buying a 35 F/1.4 for this :D just a 20D and that lens will suffice for some serious shots and not being bothered by the camera while hiking!!!

Michiel, I have to tell/warn you - Zion can be very challenging hiking-wise. High altitude and steep cliffs would lay a certain burden on anybody, especially on somebody whose body still lives by Amsterdam time:-)
For instance, hike to the Angles Landing, while delivering breathtaking view, will take most of the day and all of your legs:-). And speaking of Zion's Narrows - we, post-shooters, will have plenty of the same or better later, but without the danger of dropping our precious equipment into the muddy waters...
Now it's probably too early, but at some point in February or so I'd like to start a discussion of what exactly we gonna do in each canyon (and definitely at each stop in the post shootout). I mean, those places are gorgeous, but, given the very limited time frame, like in Yosemite, sometimes you need guides..:dunno

[grimace]

Andy,

I finally played with the work schedule and I'm able to get the time off. Do you have two available spots left?

[Mike Lane]

The US Air Force has seen fit to allow me to get the $%&@ out. My exit date is 30 June and my terminal leave should start in the middle of May. That's PERFECT timing for a Bryce/Zion photo adventure and a road trip of monumental proportions (and it'll be prime beard growing time!!!). My money will be in shortly and my space is reserved with Andy. So I'm in.

Now I'll be driving from the Seattle area all the way there. I could do it in maybe 2 days but I'll probably take a little longer so I can hit sites along the way. I'm more than willing to take up to 4 other dgrinners down there with me (4 will be a bit cramped, 3 will be better) as long as you're willing to split the gas (and I've got a prius so that won't be so bad). The catch is that I'm not driving back any time soon (not until the middle to end of July probably) so you'll have to find another way back.

If there aren't any takers, I'll have a car that is wide open to help shuttle folks around (details can be worked out at a later date).

The average photographer skill level in the group has just dropped several points. :uhoh

[David_S85]

Another Mod. in. Hooray! :clap But there's not gonna be anybody left to run the store. I do have confidence that Baldy will have a vBulletin plug-in to have this joint running on automatic mode by then.

And now I won't consider myself the only one nuts enough to do a multi-day drive down there (Mrs. D_S85 now almost offering me bribes NOT to drive - she's flying).

I guess congrats are in order for the Air Force retirement then? Is that a decision you've been pondering for a while?


The average photographer skill level in the group has just dropped several points. :uhoh

Nah. :nah You ain't seen any of my disasters yet.

[Nikolai]

The US Air Force has seen fit to allow me to get the $%&@ out. My exit date is 30 June and my terminal leave should start in the middle of May. That's PERFECT timing for a Bryce/Zion photo adventure and a road trip of monumental proportions

I mean, the official part is nice, but would you miss the roadtrip?:wink

[Mike Lane]

I mean, the official part is nice, but would you miss the roadtrip?:wink

I may have missed the post shootout part... Lemme lookup the details :wink

[Mike Lane]

I'm in for the post shootout shootout!

[Andy]

I'm in for the post shootout shootout!

Glad you are coming!

Send money.

[aktse]

I'm not sure if I'm joining this trip yet, but I suggest that people on the roadtrip stop at arches.

My parents just came back and caught this dancer in perfect turn-out during this December there.

http://billandlily.smugmug.com/photos/49645746-S.jpg

I've never been a photo person, but people on dgrin make me want to go out and shoot. :D

[Nikolai]

I'm not sure if I'm joining this trip yet, but I suggest that people on the roadtrip stop at arches.

My parents just came back and caught this dancer in perfect turn-out during this December there.

http://billandlily.smugmug.com/photos/49645746-S.jpg

I've never been a photo person, but people on dgrin make me want to go out and shoot. :D

That's what post-shootout (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12147) is for:-)

Cheers!:1drink

[vangogh]

Hi - for those of us not in the US can you tell us where Bryce & Zion are. I'm possibly interested in coming & would like to know more details so I can research flights etc.

Thanks
Nicola

May 17 & 18 @ Bryce
May 19 & 20 @ Zion

Details to follow - I'm in the process of making reservations etc right now. This trip will require you to make a decision waaaaay in advance, and give us a deposit. Rooms are nearly impossible to get if we wait too long, so this will be a trip that'll be nailed down as far as attendees etc. very very soon!

As to costs estimates for lodging: figure about $40 per person per nght at bryce and $75 per person per night at zion.

Air Travel: in / out of Las Vegas is best.

Marc Muench will be our landscape pro in attendance.

Many more details to follow as they get decided.

EDIT: rooms will have baths/shower & loo :D

Who's in??



*** all official info on the trip will be posted into this thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592) ***

[Andy]

Hi - for those of us not in the US can you tell us where Bryce & Zion are. I'm possibly interested in coming & would like to know more details so I can research flights etc.

Thanks
Nicola


:wave Fly In/Out of Las Vegas. Both Parks are in the State of Utah

Bryce:
http://www.nps.gov/brca/

Zion:
http://www.nps.gov/zion/

The coolest thing? Get Google Earth (www.earth.google.com) and fly there right now! :deal

[Andy]

We're up to 48

Adam Grim (Grimace) and his GF Kendal are coming :clap

[aero-nut]

Hey all,

I just had a suggestion I wanted to throw out there (as geeky as it may be). Many people now have the FRS/GMRS radios for camping/hiking/skiing etc... I have four, and I've used them for many such events and they come in very handy if you're within the 3-10 mile range (depending on the unit and terrain). It might be a good idea to specify a pre-determined "Call-in" channel for the event for a couple reasons:

- People that are looking for the right place to park, meet, etc can "call-in" and get info as they approach
- During the Yosemite trip, the entire dgrin group was split into several small groups to go shoot the sights with one or more people that were experienced and somewhat familiar with the area. It might be helpful for each group to have at least one of these radios so that they can kind of keep in touch throughout the day's shooting activities.
- I'm guessing there's not much cell phone coverage in the park.

The nice thing is that these radios are fairly low cost ($30-$80 for a pair typically).


If this seems to be more trouble than it's worth, no problem. Just thought I would throw it out there, realizing that I may just be a sucker for gadgets. :D

What'ya think? :dunno

[David_S85]

Agreed on the radios. Great idea, as I seriously doubt that 50 of us would be hiking in one big group.

Wish I owned a set of FRS. Diana & I will be bringing ours, but alas, they aren't FRS, but UHF (a little more range though).

[aero-nut]

Agreed on the radios. Great idea, as I seriously doubt that 50 of us would be hiking in one big group.

Wish I owned a set of FRS. Diana & I will be bringing ours, but alas, they aren't FRS, but UHF (a little more range though).

Yeah, I hear that. And if there are any other Ham radio operators out there, I'll be bringing my handheld HT (up 50 miles range). I figure...what the heck...as long as I have space in the backpack, might as well bring all the gadgets. :wink

[Andy]

I'll need these radios for my Canyoneering expedition (s)... David, 'Nut, please spend my money and linky some good choices, eh?

[Nikolai]

I suggested them for Yosemite trip and I more than suggesting to get it this time - even though in canyons they are not too much usefull. But for the post shootout we'd need them, esp. if we end up with more than vehicle. I'm gonna bring a pair of my motorolas..

[David_S85]

I'll need these radios for my Canyoneering expedition (s)... David, 'Nut, please spend my money and linky some good choices, eh?

Researching is my middle name! Will add that to my list-to-do tonight.

Spend your money :D Sure, now about that finder's fee... :lol4

[kudbegud]

i have 2 frs/gmrs units...Motorola T4800

[aero-nut]

I'll need these radios for my Canyoneering expedition (s)... David, 'Nut, please spend my money and linky some good choices, eh?
:nod Here's a good consumer report on a few models:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/electronics/two_way_radios/fullstory.html

Motorola pretty much has the market cornered right now, and people have seemed to be the happiest with the range and battery life of their models. The "Talkabout" is the most popular series of models from Motorola.

There's a list and info about all of Motorola's models here (http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/phoneselect_TwoWay.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&productid=29129&web_page_name=TWOWAYRADIOS).

You pretty much want to go with one that has decent range capabilities. Some people can be disappointed with the range of the cheapest models, but I guess you get what you pay for, right?

I have a set of Talkbout T5000s, and have been pretty happy with them. You just can't expect the world of these radios, since they are manufactured to be very low cost. They advertise up to 10 or 12 miles ranges sometimes, but that is only true in optimal conditions on the GMRS channels (channels 1-7 and 15-22), since they are allowed to have a higher transmit power level at those frequencies.

The other catch is that the FCC started requiring a license for the GMRS channels (kind of like what they tried to do with CB radio about 15 years ago). Of course, the manufactures wait till the fine print in the manual to tell you that. The good news is that you don't need a license for the FRS channels (8-14), but you have lower power (about .5 watt), which limits you to about 3 miles on a good day. Since I use them so much, and already have to pay for my other FCC radio license, I went ahead and sprung for the $100 GRMS license fee (a lot, considering that's more than most of the radios cost). I wonder if a whole group can operate under once license...

Of course, as these things go, the FCC is going to have a heck of a time regulating this rule, since soooo many people are buying these radios...so... (not an official suggestion) I wouldn't be too worried about it for occasional use...but you didn't hear that from me. :hide

[David_S85]

Somewhat outdated review of some FRS radios:
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/electronics/two_way_radios/

Just Announced - The latest on the 2006 Motorola FRS series from the CES show:
http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,,6253_6208_23,00.html

Current Motorola family of 2-way radios:
http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/phoneselect_TwoWay.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&productid=29298&web_page_name=TWOWAYRADIOS

[CalfeeRider]

Hi Kendall and David,

Thanks for the info and the links. Not being a radio guy though, I'm a bit at a loss comparing the various models. I found these at JR for the same price, $59.99. From your viewpoint which model would you get and why?

SX700R 12-mile http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4042404
T6500R 5-mile http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=3996405

Or, for $100 or less, what would you get?

Thanks!
Jack

[ian408]

Or you could spend the real money on the Kenwood FreeTalk XL (http://www.kenwood.net/indexKenwood.cfm?do=ProductDetails&ProdID=39&Gro).

It's a 2W radio with a nice, consistent 5mi range.

Ian

[aero-nut]

Hi Kendall and David,

Thanks for the info and the links. Not being a radio guy though, I'm a bit at a loss comparing the various models. I found these at JR for the same price, $59.99. From your viewpoint which model would you get and why?

SX700R 12-mile http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4042404
T6500R 5-mile http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=3996405

Or, for $100 or less, what would you get?

Thanks!
Jack

Jack, the SX700R seems to give you more bang for your buck, both in features and output power (thus a little more range). Personally I would go with that model as opposed to the T6500R, even though the SX700R is a little bigger in size.

Just my humble opinion.

[David_S85]

But what about all that nasty FCC licensing hoopla? :lol4 :lol4

[4labs]

Any itinerary yet so we can plan our flights accordingly?

[Andy]

Any itinerary yet so we can plan our flights accordingly?

We'll be meeting "officially" on May 17th @ Ruby's Inn at Bryce N.P. Probably mid-late morning.



More info as I decide/create it :D

[Nikolai]

We'll be meeting "officially" on May 17th @ Ruby's Inn at Bryce N.P. Probably mid-late morning.



More info as I decide/create it :D

Darn, I guess we'll be a bit late.. We'll take off from LV around 8:30 am, google maps says it's about 250 miles, 5 hr drive, so we most likely arrive around 2 pm :dunno

[4labs]

Nik you can always goa day earlier and spend a day in Vegas? That is my plan as I don't intend on flying for 4-5 hrs to Vegas and than get in a car and drive another 5.

[Bob Bell]

I havent been to bryce or zion in a very long time. Not being a landscape shooter, what kind of gear would someone need for this trip? I have a lot of lenses covering 20mm to 200mm and soon to 400mm.

I'm pretty sure I can get the time off at work and this sounds like a fun trip.

Feeling pretty lazy, I didnt read all 13 pages, are people splitting cars/ Suv's to get around?

-Bob

[Andy]

I havent been to bryce or zion in a very long time. Not being a landscape shooter, what kind of gear would someone need for this trip? I have a lot of lenses covering 20mm to 200mm and soon to 400mm.

I'm pretty sure I can get the time off at work and this sounds like a fun trip.

Feeling pretty lazy, I didnt read all 13 pages, are people splitting cars/ Suv's to get around?

-Bob

:wave Hiya Bob :D

Sounds like you have plenty of glass - and don't worry - there's lots of sharing on these trips :deal

Yes, we'll organize sharing of cars, vehicles etc.

Are you in? :ear (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592)

[Bob Bell]

:wave Hiya Bob :D

Sounds like you have plenty of glass - and don't worry - there's lots of sharing on these trips :deal

Yes, we'll organize sharing of cars, vehicles etc.

Are you in? :ear (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=12592)
Thats cool,

Im gonna check for the time off tomorrow. I should be fine for the official part. I sent you a message if im good time wise.

You have quite an empire going now Andy. I need to stop by more often :)

[jwear]

Darn, I guess we'll be a bit late.. We'll take off from LV around 8:30 am, google maps says it's about 250 miles, 5 hr drive, so we most likely arrive around 2 pm :dunnodrive very careful and make it 6:D

[Nikolai]

Nik you can always goa day earlier and spend a day in Vegas? That is my plan as I don't intend on flying for 4-5 hrs to Vegas and than get in a car and drive another 5.

For me it's just one hour flight (LAX --> LAS) ... And I already booked it, so, I guess, it's my carma:-) Oh, well, there will be 4 of us in the car at least, so we can switch:-)

Cheers!:1drink