...1st moon shot with my 400 f/5.6

[gus]

Just @ 400mm with some cropping & a little sharpening. Man am i in love with this lens.

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Date Taken:2005-05-18 17:13:41Date Digitized:2005-05-18 17:13:41Make:CanonModel: Canon EOS 20D Size: 634x589 Bytes: 255502 Aperture: f/7.1 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 400mm (guess: 311mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.01s (1/100)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:-2

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22496360-L.jpg

[Skippy]

Just @ 400mm with some cropping & a little sharpening. Man am i in love with this lens.

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Date Taken:2005-05-18 17:13:41Date Digitized:2005-05-18 17:13:41Make:CanonModel: Canon EOS 20D Size: 634x589 Bytes: 255502 Aperture: f/7.1 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 400mm (guess: 311mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.01s (1/100)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:-2


Awwwwwwww thats a beauty, yup, yup, this is my next lens for sure :D
You must be pleased as punch.......boy that is a nice clean crisp shot.
Congratualations............. Skippy (Australia)

[Harryb]

excellent :thumb

[Andy]

excellent :thumb

really nice gus! can you show, please, a downsized version of the full frame shot? would like to see how much the moon fills the frame at 400mm

[ginger_55]

Very good, gus.

i would like to see it, too.

g

[gus]

really nice gus! can you show, please, a downsized version of the full frame shot? would like to see how much the moon fills the frame at 400mm
Here you go mate as the camera saw it.....thats a hell of a lens no ?

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22522487-L.jpg

[gus]

Awwwwwwww thats a beauty, yup, yup, this is my next lens for sure :D
You must be pleased as punch.......boy that is a nice clean crisp shot.
Congratualations............. Skippy (Australia)
It can only get better skip as that was about a hour before that huge storm on my $30 tripod with a lens that really should have something more solid under it.

Tks

[gus]

Thanks for the comments guys...L glass is my friend !

[SusanB]

I like both versions :D . There's something about the feel of the one surrounded by black space that is appealing to me, while the moon still has so much detail.
Susan

[MuskyDude]

Just amazing details Gus, terrific moon shot. :clap


AJ

[gus]

Just amazing details Gus, terrific moon shot. :clap


AJTks mate...it is easy with the right equip.

[gus]

I like both versions :D . There's something about the feel of the one surrounded by black space that is appealing to me, while the moon still has so much detail.
Susan
Tks susan...i was surprised it would sharpen up so well. Do i have some plans for this lens & that moon !!!

[davev]

Just @ 400mm with some cropping & a little sharpening. Man am i in love with this lens.

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Date Taken:2005-05-18 17:13:41Date Digitized:2005-05-18 17:13:41Make:CanonModel: Canon EOS 20D Size: 634x589 Bytes: 255502 Aperture: f/7.1 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 400mm (guess: 311mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.01s (1/100)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:-2

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22496360-L.jpgReal nice. I just spent the last 2 hours trying to get one like that with my
Sigma 80-400os and D Reb 300. I didn't even come close. Of couse I was trying to do it hand held. :D
(I hate using tripods)

Just one thing, for your Focal Length, with the 1.6 factor it would be 640mm,
and 400mm in 35mm film or FF sensor.

Anyway, I got a feeling you just cost me a grand. I'm just not sure if it will
go for the lens or the camera.:dunno

1/350s f/8.0 at 400.0mm iso200
http://www.pbase.com/davev/image/43601338.jpg


BTW, it is a great pic.

P.S. mine is a 100% crop, is yours? I'm trying is see if the 8 meg gets the pic
that much larger. If it is, it's like adding even more zoom.

dave.

[Shay Stephens]

Yeah baby, that is the kind of results I am after. Nice!

[gus]

Real nice. I just spent the last 2 hours trying to get one like that with my
Sigma 80-400os and D Reb 300. I didn't even come close. Of couse I was trying to do it hand held. :D
(I hate using tripods)

Just one thing, for your Focal Length, with the 1.6 factor it would be 640mm,
and 400mm in 35mm film or FF sensor.

Anyway, I got a feeling you just cost me a grand. I'm just not sure if it will
go for the lens or the camera.:dunno

1/350s f/8.0 at 400.0mm iso200



BTW, it is a great pic.

P.S. mine is a 100% crop, is yours? I'm trying is see if the 8 meg gets the pic
that much larger. If it is, it's like adding even more zoom.

dave.
Thanks shay...dave. I am really going to show my ignorance here & say that i dont know what 100% crop means ...i am open to enlightenment though.

I just shoot stuff & see what i get.

Thanks guys
Gus

[ian408]

'Gus, I always knew you were going to the moon :D

Nice exposure and detail in the shot! Now let's see some birds :rofl

Ian

[Shay Stephens]

A 100% crop is just a regular cropped image that has not been resized either up or down.



Thanks shay...dave. I am really going to show my ignorance here & say that i dont know what 100% crop means ...i am open to enlightenment though.

I just shoot stuff & see what i get.

Thanks guys
Gus

[gus]

'Gus, I always knew you were going to the moon :D

Nice exposure and detail in the shot! Now let's see some birds :rofl

IanThanks ian...mate i can't believe how easy it was...i had really no idea of my settings just put it on Av & used the timer.

I have always wanted to shoot this type of stuff so now i have to wait for a full moon & bring some other things in with it.

My Sea Eagle (http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/white_bellied_sea_eagle.htm) is always about but this late in the year.. i have lost the sun by the time i get home so i will try for him this week-end. He always eats his fish on one particular post about 200 yards from my balcony but i will sneak up on him. I really want an underneath flight shot in the late afternoon sun.

[gus]

A 100% crop is just a regular cropped image that has not been resized either up or down.
:wxwax ok...i always thought (wondered) how they get the figure 100% :scratch

Well yes its a 100% crop then....hmm the penny has just dropped. Its a cut from the original shot. :clap Man theres no stoppin' me !

Thanks for looking mate...i know just how rare it is to get you out of the lurkers cupboard :thumb Are you considering the lens ? Its a must for its speed of focus & price.

[is300soon]

can someone provide a link to the lens used? I am a NOOOOOOOOOOB so I am trying to learn what lens = what etc etc etc.

Right now all i have is the stock rebel xt and lens.......

thanks
David

[gus]

can someone provide a link to the lens used? I am a NOOOOOOOOOOB so I am trying to learn what lens = what etc etc etc.

Right now all i have is the stock rebel xt and lens.......

thanks
DavidHere it is (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=SearchBar&A=search&Q=*&shs=canon+400+f%2F5.6) David...its just a Canon L prime (one focal length) 400mm f/5.6. It focuses very fast & for a bit over a grand $USD its a must.

Cheers ..Gus

PS. Im sorry if i sound patronising here but a 300/350/20D using a lens is always multiplied by 1.6. So in reality its a 640mm. How cheap is that for 'bang for buck' ?

[nzmacro]

Yep, that is one heck of a set of details M8t. Impressive crop !!!

All the best and this really is one heck of a sharp shot IMO. :thumb

Danny.

[is300soon]

my god that is huge!

I think ill learn the camera before I spank some dough down on a lens that big!

NICE SHOTS!

Any idea what would be in the 200-300 range with Great zoom and fast?

Im going to vegas soon and I hope I can catch the strip at night and start my collection there.

Im loaded with CF cards now :)
1gb ultra II
512
my old 256

So i hope ill be good on space.

David

[gus]

my god that is huge!

I think ill learn the camera before I spank some dough down on a lens that big!

NICE SHOTS!

Any idea what would be in the 200-300 range with Great zoom and fast?

Im going to vegas soon and I hope I can catch the strip at night and start my collection there.

Im loaded with CF cards now :)
1gb ultra II
512
my old 256

So i hope ill be good on space.

DavidActually its only about 11 inches long & about 3 inches in Dia.

Mate i can only give you my opinion so it is clouded but im not into zooms as primes are sharper but primes certainly dont have the versatility of a good zoom. In the zoom range with a low budget i would buy the 70-200 f/4 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=SearchBar&A=search&Q=*&shs=70-200+f%2F4).

Theres lots of lenses & far more opinions ...this is just mine.

The night shots may make you move towards the 70-200 f/2.8 but its all a money thing as you know (they are dearer). I like slow night shots so being an f/4 wouldnt worry me that much.

If you want wide then the 10-22 is the lens to have IMO.

Cheers ..Gus

Good Luck

[gus]

P.S. mine is a 100% crop, is yours? I'm trying is see if the 8 meg gets the pic
that much larger. If it is, it's like adding even more zoom.

dave.Now that i know what that means Dave...yep its 100% & a tad of sharpen thrown in for good measure.

I saw some shots that a friend of greapers took of some owls & that sold me on the lens....hey greaps if your reading this then i cant find the link to those owl shots. Do you know where they are ? Canon could use them to sell this lens.

Gus

[davev]

Now that i know what that means Dave...yep its 100% & a tad of sharpen thrown in for good measure.

I saw some shots that a friend of greapers took of some owls & that sold me on the lens....hey greaps if your reading this then i cant find the link to those owl shots. Do you know where they are ? Canon could use them to sell this lens.

Gus
Hey Gus, Canon could use your pic to sell the lens. I think there's one in my
future, but I'll have to sell a couple first.

Thanks for the info.

dave.

[pathfinder]

Just @ 400mm with some cropping & a little sharpening. Man am i in love with this lens.

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Date Taken:2005-05-18 17:13:41Date Digitized:2005-05-18 17:13:41Make:CanonModel: Canon EOS 20D Size: 634x589 Bytes: 255502 Aperture: f/7.1 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 400mm (guess: 311mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.01s (1/100)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:-2

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22496360-S.jpg


Welcome aboard the moon shooters club, 'gus. Very nice. Try a manual exposure too, using Sunny 16 rule, and see how that compares.

[gubbs]

Sorry, but isn't that your second moon with that lens :buttkiss

Nice shot!!

[ian408]

'Gus, I noticed a bright object next to the moon last night...Spica. Spica is
the brightest star in the constellation of Virgo.

Oh, your full moon will be on May 24th.

How'd I find all this out? Stardate (http://stardate.org/), a radio program.
Joe-Bob says "Check it out twice".

Ian

[bfjr]

Wanna thank you for the moon shot :D

After looking at it for awile, I noticed my hair and teeth are starting to grow, errr growwllllllllllllllll oh gosh gotta find me some woods to hooooowwwwwwllllll in :lol4 :lol4

Great shot, very sharp :thumb

[pathfinder]

Wanna thank you for the moon shot :D

After looking at it for awile, I noticed my hair and teeth are starting to grow, errr growwllllllllllllllll oh gosh gotta find me some woods to hooooowwwwwwllllll in :lol4 :lol4

Great shot, very sharp :thumb
:lol4:lol4:lol4

[gus]

Sorry, but isn't that your second moon with that lens :buttkiss

Nice shot!!
:wxwax Hmmm....let me go back through these yosemite shots again.....

[gus]

Welcome aboard the moon shooters club, 'gus. Very nice. Try a manual exposure too, using Sunny 16 rule, and see how that compares.Tks PF..isnt it a great subject....yep ive read about the sunny 16 rule but will look it up again for the next one. Mate you know what im like...theres never method to madness.

[gus]

'Gus, I noticed a bright object next to the moon last night...Spica. Spica is
the brightest star in the constellation of Virgo.

Oh, your full moon will be on May 24th.

How'd I find all this out? Stardate (http://stardate.org/), a radio program.
Joe-Bob says "Check it out twice".

Ian
I did notice that last night...i was considering a shot with both but some light cloud came over & dashed all attempts.

[gus]

Wanna thank you for the moon shot :D

After looking at it for awile, I noticed my hair and teeth are starting to grow, errr growwllllllllllllllll oh gosh gotta find me some woods to hooooowwwwwwllllll in :lol4 :lol4

Great shot, very sharp :thumb
I did kind of think that.

I got a call from andy yesterday morning about 4.30 am as i get up early & my wife (half asleep in bed) didnt hear my mobile (cell) ring so thought i was having a full on conversation with myself.

She recons until she worked it out that she had some serious concerns & thought...'ok..this is it...he is now fully mad talking out allowed to himself in the dark'

[wxwax]

Just @ 400mm with some cropping & a little sharpening. Man am i in love with this lens.

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Date Taken:2005-05-18 17:13:41Date Digitized:2005-05-18 17:13:41Make:CanonModel: Canon EOS 20D Size: 634x589 Bytes: 255502 Aperture: f/7.1 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 400mm (guess: 311mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.01s (1/100)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:-2

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22496360-S.jpg

Missed this, darned New Posts sucks.

This is great! Beautiful exposure. Is the moon somehow closer to Oz than Yankland? I can't believe you got that with just a 400.

[gus]

Missed this, darned New Posts sucks.

This is great! Beautiful exposure. Is the moon somehow closer to Oz than Yankland? I can't believe you got that with just a 400.
Mate seriously i walked out onto the balcony at night & thought.."i gotta shoot something..." I get like that. So i thought ok...here goes a shot ive always wanted. I didnt really know what settings to use so i just threw it on AV & sat that heavy camera & lens on my $30 'very shakey' tripod that andy kept threatening to bust up on me at Yosemite & took maybe 6 shots. Chimped them & thought...well this is crap so i got bored later & processed them & thats all she wrote.

That lens should go down in history for its sharpness/speed of focus & reletively cheap price.

[wxwax]

Mate seriously i walked out onto the balcony at night & thought.."i gotta shoot something..." I get like that. So i thought ok...here goes a shot ive always wanted. I didnt really know what settings to use so i just threw it on AV & sat that heavy camera & lens on my $30 'very shakey' tripod that andy kept threatening to bust up on me at Yosemite & took maybe 6 shots. Chimped them & thought...well this is crap so i got bored later & processed them & thats all she wrote.

That lens should go down in history for its sharpness/speed of focus & reletively cheap price.
Well damn, that worked out beautifully. I guess sometimes you don't know until you get stuck into a shot whether or not it's workable.

[gus]

Welcome aboard the moon shooters club, 'gus. Very nice. Try a manual exposure too, using Sunny 16 rule, and see how that compares.
Just did the sunny 16 & i can see what you mean mate....its a good place to start & worked quite well.

My problem is that my $30 tripod shakes like crazy with this mch wait on it & after 10 timer its still shaking :rofl

....another thing to buy :thumb

[Lg-ann]

WOW!! beautiful shot :clap

[jthomas]

Yes, that's a pretty amazing picture. Forgive my naivete', but I have a hard time believing the EXIF data you posted: 1/100th at f7.1, iso200, and a -2ev exposure bias ? I would expect nothing but black with those settings.

Moon must be brighter in Oz!

[gus]

Yes, that's a pretty amazing picture. Forgive my naivete', but I have a hard time believing the EXIF data you posted: 1/100th at f7.1, iso200, and a -2ev exposure bias ? I would expect nothing but black with those settings.

Moon must be brighter in Oz!I have no reason or benefit for faking stuff like this i can assure you mate.

:scratch :dunno I can read EXIF stuff & it means absolutely nothing to me...might as well be written in chinese.

I just shoot & open in RAW & then adjust but i can assure you that that is the info from under the photo that i copied & pasted from SmugMug.

Once i shoot it & chimp it in the camera all i can see is a massive white circle that has no detail what so ever.

Gus

[Shay Stephens]

That describes an EV13.3 situation, pretty close to what one would expect from an object lit by the sun. "Officially", EV13 describes a gibbous moon (telephoto) or subjects in cloudy bright light (no shadows).

You can learn more about exposure from this fine website:
http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm

It is very info-dense, so don't expect to learn it all at once. It took me quite a while to digest and then apply it productively, but once learned, it is a power tool.

Yes, that's a pretty amazing picture. Forgive my naivete', but I have a hard time believing the EXIF data you posted: 1/100th at f7.1, iso200, and a -2ev exposure bias ? I would expect nothing but black with those settings.

Moon must be brighter in Oz!

[wxwax]

Great link, thanks Shay.

gib·bous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gbs)
adj.
More than half but less than fully illuminated. Used of the moon or a planet.

[pathfinder]

Mate seriously i walked out onto the balcony at night & thought.."i gotta shoot something..." I get like that. So i thought ok...here goes a shot ive always wanted. I didnt really know what settings to use so i just threw it on AV & sat that heavy camera & lens on my $30 'very shakey' tripod that andy kept threatening to bust up on me at Yosemite & took maybe 6 shots. Chimped them & thought...well this is crap so i got bored later & processed them & thats all she wrote.

That lens should go down in history for its sharpness/speed of focus & reletively cheap price.

I'm with Andy here 'gus, nothing will improve the sharpness of your images like a really stable tripod. A really good tripod is a joy to use also. You, of all people, appreciate the joy of using GOOD tools.

Now your Great 20d and Canon 400mm L deserves a good tripod and head. A good tripod is forever also - long after you've replaced your camera, the tripod will still be serviceable for your newer cameras....... Note the plural there, mate! I'm sure Andy has already told you this too!

I am just your neighborhood photo dealer, 'gus!:D:D

[gus]

I'm with Andy here 'gus, nothing will improve the sharpness of your images like a really stable tripod. A really good tripod is a joy to use also. You, of all people, appreciate the joy of using GOOD tools.

Now your Great 20d and Canon 400mm L deserves a good tripod and head. A good tripod is forever also - long after you've replaced your camera, the tripod will still be serviceable for your newer cameras....... Note the plural there, mate! I'm sure Andy has already told you this too!

I am just your neighborhood photo dealer, 'gus!:D:D
I know mate...i have to buy a good one. On self timer..i hit the botton & i watch through the view finder & the lens wont stop wobbling on the moon until 7 or 8 seconds. The fact that i got the shot at all surprised me.

[jthomas]

I have no reason or benefit for faking stuff like this i can assure you mate.

:scratch :dunno I can read EXIF stuff & it means absolutely nothing to me...might as well be written in chinese.

I just shoot & open in RAW & then adjust but i can assure you that that is the info from under the photo that i copied & pasted from SmugMug.

Once i shoot it & chimp it in the camera all i can see is a massive white circle that has no detail what so ever.

Gus I was not doubting your veracity! I was just trying to understand what's going on here. I'll follow Shay's link and see if I can figure it out.

[GREAPER]

Now that i know what that means Dave...yep its 100% & a tad of sharpen thrown in for good measure.

I saw some shots that a friend of greapers took of some owls & that sold me on the lens....hey greaps if your reading this then i cant find the link to those owl shots. Do you know where they are ? Canon could use them to sell this lens.

Gus

Those shots can be found
HERE (http://wmsnyderphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/134172)

[jeff lapoint]

'gus, that is one sweet shot you have there! i've been on the fence between this lens, the 300f4 is, and the 100-400. for what i shoot, the 400 makes sense, but man you just put me over the edge on this decision...

again, great shot man

-j

[gus]

'gus, that is one sweet shot you have there! i've been on the fence between this lens, the 300f4 is, and the 100-400. for what i shoot, the 400 makes sense, but man you just put me over the edge on this decision...

again, great shot man

-j
Tks jeff..i really didnt think i would get a shot like that so easily. I am a bad enough photographer with an ordinary lens & this lens makes it easy to get a sharp shot.

'Bang for Buck' wise ..its amazing. There are some humming bird shots i took with it in my yosemite album (http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/334846/3/22675579). About 4 or 5 pages into the album.

Gus

[gus]

'gus, that is one sweet shot you have there! i've been on the fence between this lens, the 300f4 is, and the 100-400. for what i shoot, the 400 makes sense, but man you just put me over the edge on this decision...

again, great shot man

-jJust to seal the deal...last night. My processing leaves a lot to be desired.

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/22963669-L.jpg

[jeff lapoint]

dooode. thats it! its on! the wheels of scraping $ together and purchasing have been put in motion (hawkman and daniella were also excellent catalysts)

[jthomas]

Yes, that's a pretty amazing picture. Forgive my naivete', but I have a hard time believing the EXIF data you posted: 1/100th at f7.1, iso200, and a -2ev exposure bias ? I would expect nothing but black with those settings.

Moon must be brighter in Oz! I'm replying to my own post to try to save face and convince everyone that I'm not a complete idiot. I'm sure the EXIF data 'Gus posted was based on spot metering, which, of course, would be the only way to go in order to get any detail on Luna. Right Gus?

Then all the numbers make sense.:):

Sorry to clutter the forum with my blather.

That shot from last night is another winner.:thumb

[gus]

I'm replying to my own post to try to save face and convince everyone that I'm not a complete idiot. I'm sure the EXIF data 'Gus posted was based on spot metering, which, of course, would be the only way to go in order to get any detail on Luna. Right Gus?

Then all the numbers make sense.:):

Sorry to clutter the forum with my blather.

That shot from last night is another winner.:thumb
Well mate i'll tell you that i dont know what spot metering means...sad bit is that im serious.

You will never clutter the forum with blather ...thats my job.:thumb

[luckyrwe]

Hmmm, what is the depth of field on a 400mm lens at f/7.1 at a distance of 238,855 miles?

[cabbey]

Couple of great shots there Gus.

Hmmm, what is the depth of field on a 400mm lens at f/7.1 at a distance of 238,855 miles?It's litterally as far as the eye can see. It calculates (http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html) out to infiity. (after using googulator to convert miles to meters.)

1181.5 m Near limit of acceptable sharpness
Infintiy Far limit of acceptable sharpness
Infinite Total depth of field
384398679.5 m Depth of field in front of subject
Infinite Depth of field behind subject
1181.9 m Hyperfocal distance
0.019mm Circle of confusion for selected forma