URGENT call for photos

[Baldy]

Ack! I'm so sorry about the short notice but there's nothing I can do.

smugmug has been asked to power the photo galleries of a major, prestigious conference, whose name I can divulge Sunday night.

They've invited us to provide a gift to the 630 attendees, which they would receive in a gift bag from companies like Apple.

We've chosen smug mugs. That is, white ceramic mugs with a stunning photograph and a quote about photography.

The ideal would be several photos, up to 20 of them, and different quotes, to go on different mugs so the attendees compare. I can put the name of the photographer tastefully in small type on the photo, if you want me to. And I'll use a variety of quotes.

The space available is 3.5" by 8.5" and part will be dedicated to the quote. Depending on the length of the quote, the photo might be 3.5 by 5, for example.

Stunning photos of Yosemite or whatever. Post them here, send me a PM, send email to help, whatever. We just need your permission to use them as gifts for this conference without, ehem, paying you. :uhoh

Thanks!
Baldy

[Baldy]

Did I mention that I have to submit the artwork to the lab by Tuesday night at 8 PM pacific time, May 17th? That gives us about 24 hours realistically, by the time I have time to prepare them for print.

[wxwax]

So landscape orientation only, sounds like.

[DavidTO]

So landscape orientation only, sounds like.

And they have to be stunning?...dang.

[GREAPER]

And do you need us to come up with the caption?

[wxwax]

And they have to be stunning?...dang.
I know. :nod :lol3

[dragon300zx]

I pmmed in my offerings. Whether or not they will make the cut.... But I voulanteered my GGB night shots who else is gonna voulanteer?

[ginger_55]

Baldy, what looks best on a mug? I just cannot make myself send you anything without seeing others, I just can't. I have never made KPOTD or anything. Other than that I have Hallmark type stuff, good for mugs????

And I am not sure what you mean on the size, we should size it and put the type of with a quote of our choice?

Tues, nite? I mean I could do it pretty easily, but birds, dogs, flowers, sunsets, lots of strangers who have never given me a release (that is just for humor).

Why doesn't someone post things like one would expect.

ginger

How are you going to get photo plus type to show up? How big should type be?

Frames? Anyone have a photo of a mug, to put on a mug? I don't.

[Baldy]

So landscape orientation only, sounds like.Portrait's okay.

Here's some quotes we fished out of Bartlett's, I think, unedited (some are too long):

Edward Steichen

Photography is a major force in explaining man to man.

Also:
Photography records the gamut of feelings written on the human face, the beauty of the earth and skies that man has inherited and the wealth and confusion man has created.


I always thought of photography as a naughty thing to do—that was one of my favorite things about it, and when I first did it, I felt very perverse. Attributed to Diane Arbus


The sheer ease with which we can produce a superficial image often leads to creative disaster. Ansel Adams


What each man does is based not on direct and certain knowledge, but on pictures made by himself or given to him…..Walter Lippmann

The magic of photography is metaphysical. What you see in the photograph isn’t what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organised visual lying. Terence Donovan


I have no fear of photography as long as it cannot be used in heaven and in hell. Edward Munch

Blessed be the inventor of photography! I set him above even the inventor of chloroform! Jane Welsh Carlyle

Too many photographers try too hard. They try to lift photography into the realm of Art, because they have an inferiority complex about their Craft. Jessie Tarbox Beals

In photography the goal seems to be to prove beyond a doubt that the cameraman, in his great moment of creation, was either hanging by his heels from the rafters or was wedged under the floor with his lens in a knothole. E.B. (Elwyn Brooks) White

Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure. Tony Benn

To photograph is to confer importance. Susan Sontag

[photographs] trade simultaneously on the prestige of art and the magic of the real. Susan Sontag

It takes a lot of imagination to be a good photographer. You need less imagination to be a painter, because you can invent things. But in photography everything is so ordinary; it takes a lot of looking before you learn to see the ordinary. David Bailey

…people are always anxious to see anyone who has made himself famous.... Photography ... offers the most complete satisfaction of our curiosity. Arthur Schopenhauer

…the point of photography is to isolate images from context, so as to make them visible in a different way. Neil Postman

I’m not a photo opportunity kind of person. I am at an age where I have better sense than to make a fool of myself. Lynn Schenk

Because each one of us forgets different things, a photo more than a painting may change its meaning according to who is looking at it. John Berger

[bfjr]

Would it be easier just to go to gallerys of those that want to contribute??

If so, you can go to mine
see sig. below
If you can find anything stunning let me know and You'r Welcome.

[GREAPER]

I also sent a PM with some offerings Baldy.

[Baldy]

This would be interesting and go with one of the quotes well:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/10174458-L.jpg

[ginger_55]

What size do you want from us?

Do you want us to put the type on the submission?

Do you want us to just submit and you can crop for type?

I have quotes, too, in a lenswork, but if you want to put the appropriate type on?

EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU WANT, besides stunning.........all of our photographs are stunning, aren't they?

g

[ginger_55]

Baldy, it doesn't show up................and should we put the type on?????

[David_S85]

Here's a TOP SECRET resource for photo quotes:

http://www.photoquotes.com/

[GREAPER]

This would be interesting and go with one of the quotes well:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/10174458-L.jpg



:rofl

You can read how to post pics on Dgrin HERE (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=8401) Baldy. :clap :clap

[Seamus]

http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/19238805-L.jpg


my entry, dunno what quote goes with it:rofl

[ginger_55]

How about "Available light is any damn light that is available" I think the writer is dead, wrote it awhile back, so no copyright, etc.

Then putting it on a photo?

The whole thing, all together? Am I an idiot here, just asking what you want, exactly, so I can go make some choices and you can say "good god, no!"

[Baldy]

:rofl

You can read how to post pics on Dgrin HERE (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=8401) Baldy. :clap :clapIt's all Andy's fault. :D External links were turned off on dgrin.smugmug.com. Shouldn't they be on? Anyway, I turned them on.

Here's another great one:

http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg

[ginger_55]

Yeah, well do we size it, put ONE OF THE QUOTES ON? more specific would help me................

[bfjr]

How about one like this ??

http://bfjr.smugmug.com/photos/20834133-L.jpg

[ginger_55]

I like Shay's. I am no expert here, but these are not going to be big, should they not be simple.

[Seamus]

I like Shay's. I am no expert here, but these are not going to be big, should they not be simple.
and there are some ugly mugs in the picture:rofl

[Baldy]

Do you want us to just submit and you can crop for type?Yep.

Wider ones would get bigger quotes. I'll try to mock one up in the next few hours when I get a sec.

Audience: male in their 40s, senior exec. We want them to (a) enjoy their mug, and (b) see something in the photo they can relate to. That's why I was thinking of the first B+W. It felt like they'd identify with important family moments, their legacy, role as parents, think about their own photos.

[ginger_55]

This may be girly, it is so not me, but it is simple, and I took it.

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/21241479-S.jpg

I am posting smaller as mug space would be smaller.

[Andy]

It's all Andy's fault

funny, my wife tells me the same thing :wxwax

[Baldy]

So thinking more about the minds of the audience... I believe these quotes would mean a lot to them:

To photograph is to confer importance — Susan Sontag

…people are always anxious to see anyone who has made himself famous.... Photography ... offers the most complete satisfaction of our curiosity — Arthur Schopenhauer

Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure — Tony Benn

Photography is a major force in explaining man to man — Edward Steichen

I think a photo that moves them to think about their own photos, family, life is better than moving them to think, "Ansel was a great photographer and doesn't his work look better on a big print than on a mug..."

[ginger_55]

These are not worked up at all, and I am going to watch the last raymond, but these are the two different sizes you mentioned, as far as percentages. I am not saying they are good photos, I am saying they were the first I saw, and I am busy right now.

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/22278863-S.jpg

that is a ratio such as 5 X 3.5

this is the 8 X 3.5

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/22278865-S.jpg


Very different ratios, even as relate to the blk and white with the child. That is one thing that has me very confused.

I will come back at 10 to see what you all have decided and if I think I can help you.

uh, all men do not relate to kids, in my experience. funny, do you have funny. such as the frog that went KPOTD around christmas, etc.

g

[dragon300zx]

Sucks that all my shoots so far have been of single models. No family stuff in that. But I still like this photo.


http://www.computerhelpmi.com/pics/leah14small.jpg

[ehughes]

If you would like to use one of these just let me know.

Ed

http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22280376-M.jpg

http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22280373-M.jpg


http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22280816-M.jpg

[Baldy]

First attempt at a mockup:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22281609-O.jpg

Quote too long? Other feelings about it?

[GREAPER]

The quote goes with the pic perfectly. I think it's a winner.

[dragon300zx]

It almost makes me wanna start dating again. But then I remember my last gf. :twitch

[David_S85]

Edgy.

Now, personally, I would feel proud drinking some "enhanced" hot chocolate from that mug. But I'd only bring it out when the wifey was away. :rofl

I've seen that quote, and in fact have it on my Quotes of the Week list, but I haven't used it yet due to the edginess of the quote. Geez I'm getting old and conservative, aren't I?


First attempt at a mockup:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22281609-O.jpg

Quote too long? Other feelings about it?

[dragon300zx]

I just had a thought about that picture. It's a great picture but how conservative are the people at the conference. If they are conservative and say have a 14 year old daughter they will not want that picture on a mug in their house. Now if they are in their 20's they will ask where they can buy 15 more of them.

And how much are they gonna cost? I'd order that mug.

[Dee]

http://www.california.com/~dee/catalogue.html

Select "click here to see a slide show" to get the image number, which I'll need.

You are more than welcome to use any of these images on the mugs, and please do credit me as photographer "Dee Golden."

But please let me know tonight, as I have to get on a plane tomorrow for NY...

I'd be more than happy to send you the high res files, good size for mugs, I'm sure. I have most of them in .psd format, let me know size and resolution, and format (jpg, tiff, psd, etc.) needed and I can resize and get them to you by midnight.

[Baldy]

Great, Dee, many thanks! JPG is fine. chris at smugmug.com .

DSC02206.jpg
DSC02210.jpg

[ginger_55]

Ed's are good, now how about some manly man cars.

They seem good these days.

g

[Baldy]

If you would like to use one of these just let me know.

Ed

http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22280376-M.jpg
Gorgeous. I take that one. I think our audience could wish that surfer is them and project themself into this scene.

You want your name on it? I'll try to find a quote that fits it like:

Memory demands an image.
-Bertrand Russell

[ginger_55]

I like the one you made up, Baldy. I have nothing like that, I would if there were people here, but there aren't.

Sorry,
ginger

I would add a car one: like the guy said safer.

And a sit com did a show on red sports cars being girly, you could keep that in mind,
bye,
g

[dragon300zx]

Cars eh...


http://www.computerhelpmi.com/pics/goldz.jpg

http://www.computerhelpmi.com/pics/westpak1small.jpg

http://www.computerhelpmi.com/pics/westpak2small.jpg

http://www.computerhelpmi.com/pics/whitezsmall.jpg

[Sam]

Baldy,


I don't have any photos online, (:dunno :cry ), but if you think you could use this, just let me know and I'll send you a larger version.

"photographing the moment is the easy part, the tricky part is finding the moment to photograph."

Sam

[Nikolai]

This one can look good on a mug:

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/21870913-L.jpg

[Dee]

Great, Dee, many thanks! JPG is fine. chris at smugmug.com .

DSC02206.jpg
DSC02210.jpg

Now you see, I never would have picked those two for mug :D

Dee

[ehughes]

Gorgeous. I take that one. I think our audience could wish that surfer is them and project themself into this scene.

You want your name on it? I'll try to find a quote that fits it like:

Memory demands an image.
-Bertrand Russell
My name on it would be great Chris, glad you like it

[lr1811]

I like this one!

(Spiny Softshell Turtle)

[Nikolai]

McWay Falls:

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/22290872-L.jpg

Bryce Canyon Sphynx:

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/21761574-L.jpg

[rutt]

"... eternity through the moment." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson

Feel free to use this quotation and/or any of my photos. Here are a few I think might work.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/14533445-M.jpg

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/17630271-M.jpg

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/21726002-M.jpg

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/11910207-M.jpg

[David_S85]

Obtaining the usage rights to photos for the use that Smugmug has in mind seems to be a clear, as this thread and the individual photographer's positive responses takes care of that issue nicely.

But... the quotes? What, I wonder, are the legal ramifications, of placing quotes on a product, for promotional purposes, of those of notoriety, that may already be copyrighted by themselves or their heirs and successors?

[Tim Kirkwood]

Was lookoing through some folders with your request in mind.


What do you think of this one Baldy? I can send the full size file if you like it.

[tlittleton]

I sent a PM with a few pics from my small collection. Also feel free to use anything you see in my smugmug galleries (http://tlittleton.smugmug.com) for this project.

[Angelo]

Baldy:

You're welcome to use anything from my galleries and you may use my signature quote.

[lynnesite]

--The passion of love is essentially selfish, while motherhood widens the circle of our feelings.
Honoré De Balzac

The nearly white on white should work well on a mug-please include either www.lynnesite.com or www.photo.lynnesite.com
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/22311350-L.jpg

[lynnesite]

Live your life each day as you would climb a mountain. An occasional glance
towards the summit keeps the goal in mind, but many beautiful scenes are to
be observed from each new vantage point.

-- Harold B. Melchart

either www.lynnesite.com or www.photo.lynnesite.com
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/4312138-L-1.jpg

[lynnesite]

Some from the 5700
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/4249770-L-1.jpg
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/4249850-L-1.jpg

[lynnesite]

Last one
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/6620198-L-2.jpg

[Seymore]

Baldy... Care to use a shot of Pikes Peak? (Purple Mountains Majesty after Eclipse)
http://www.macmurph.com/photodb/pictures/8/1683/640x480/0.jpg

Are you using Sunsets? (Rocky Mountain Colors)
http://www.macmurph.com/photodb/pictures/8/1819/640x480/1.jpg

I can send these without text in PIC, unless you'd like to use them as is...

[ginger_55]

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317488-L.jpg

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317490-L.jpg

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317493-L.jpg

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317495-L.jpg


http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317497-L.jpg

[ginger_55]

http://gingersnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317485-L.jpg

gingerSnap.smugmug.com

http://gingerSnap.smugmug.com/photos/22317486-L.jpg

[SusanB]

How's this one? Let me know if you need it so that I can make a high res one available for you.
http://susanb.smugmug.com/photos/22208257-L-1.jpg

It's called Adventure On Shifting Sands. I'm sure there are cool quotes to match this that guys could relate to.

Susan

[SusanB]

--The passion of love is essentially selfish, while motherhood widens the circle of our feelings.
Honoré De Balzac

The nearly white on white should work well on a mug-please include either www.lynnesite.com (http://www.lynnesite.com/) or www.photo.lynnesite.com (http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/)
http://www.photo.lynnesite.com/photos/22311350-L.jpg
Lynne,

This is such a beautiful image.

Susan

[windoze]

you can use anything i have done from my galleries on Smugmug.....

troy


Photograph: a picture painted by the sun without instruction in art. ~Ambrose Bierce

http://windoze.smugmug.com/photos/3550799-M.jpg

[SusanB]

Golden footprints gently fade, while golden memories last a lifetime.


http://susanb.smugmug.com/photos/22320207-L.jpg

Let me know if you need a high res one. Actually, I intitially called this one Footsteps on Golden Sands but, if these guys are in the image business the memories thing would probably apply better.

You can crop some of the black to fit the mug dimensions.

It is ok to use these images for this specific application and also to include my name along the image if you do find that you can use either of them.

Susan

[rainforest1155]

Here's my proposal:
http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/photos/22322034-M.jpg

I would like to have my name included (Sebastian Hosche) if you use the picture. You can get the original size using the photoid.

Good luck with the project,
Sebastian

[wholenewlight]

Hope i'm not too late for your deadline:


http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/4754310-L.jpg

and another:

http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/4754313-L.jpg

[wholenewlight]

Or how about an peaceful Amish scene:


http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/21899524-L.jpg


One more:

http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/21899532-L.jpg

[florindo]

You're welcome to use any of the pictures I have posted in my gallery (the "other" gallery until I populate my new smugmug gallery).

www.pbase.com/florindo (http://www.pbase.com/florindo)

If at all possible, can my name appear somewhere as a credit/copyright? I haven't read all of the posts here, so forgive me if it's already been answered.

I'll read through the rest now.

[DJ-S1]

Baldy, if either of these fit your family theme and you want to use 'em, feel free.:thumb


http://daveorama.smugmug.com/photos/5838471-M.jpg
http://daveorama.smugmug.com/photos/20772500-M.jpg

[Baldy]

Hope i'm not too late for your deadline:

http://cs-pics.smugmug.com/photos/4754310-L.jpg
Everyone: these are GREAT and I so appreciate the response at short notice. I'll be preparing pics until 8 tonight Pacific Time so maybe I'll get 20ish with quotes?

Question: what's the legality of having an image of a well-known persona or product on something like this where we place our brand on it?

[MuskyDude]

Question: what's the legality of having an image of a well-known persona or product on something like this where we place our brand on it?
I was wondering the same thing. I have some "Ok" shots I'd love to share and help with, but I don't have their permission for usage. :dunno

I'd sure love to help, but I'm not sure how?

AJ

[Nee7x7]

Baldy,

You are more than welcome to browse my galleries and use any photos you might deem worthy. One of my favorites is this one of the flamingo I posted a while back-

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/20934732-M.jpg

One from our Smugmug Yosemite trip -

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/21853297-M.jpg

A local rural scene on a back country road -

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14257302-M.jpg

Our cat Emmie Lou-

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/u/rdavis/medium/631367.DSC00025.jpg

An Easter Lily -

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256508-M.jpg

My grandson getting sprayed by a hose last summer -

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14253646-M.jpg

A father and his sons coming in to shore from a day of fishing on the Kings River -

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256819-M.jpg

El Capitan in Yosemite (from a previous trip there)

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13827934-M.jpg

Let me know what specs you need (such as, do you need the quote already printed on the photo? What size photos and what resolution? Anything else?). You are welcome to use any photos you like (my name in [small] print under the photos would pretty cool). My favorite quote is the one I use for my signature, but it's not photo specific.

Feel free to use any of my photos that might fit the need, if any of them will work.

Cheers!
~Nee :):

ps. a couple of these were taken from my pbase gallery, but I'll be happy to move 'em for ya! :rolleyes

[lynnesite]

Everyone: these are GREAT and I so appreciate the response at short notice. I'll be preparing pics until 8 tonight Pacific Time so maybe I'll get 20ish with quotes?

Question: what's the legality of having an image of a well-known persona or product on something like this where we place our brand on it?

I would NOT use anything that isn't model released. Property, if they're on the list as requiring releases, you'd be taking your legal life in your hands. Most property isn't subject to that. If you're using it for commercial gain, then you can't use famous people, I think. Bert Krages Legal Handbook For Photographers is a good source.

[ginger_55]

Baldy, I put type on my photos, the correct size I think. When I woke up, I thought, oh darn, what did I do? About 3 AM, I start to thinking I am a good photographer, bar none. No, I don't drink.

I do have the same photos avail, without type, but I have to leave for awhile.
I don't know what time I will be back.

Please leave me a message if you need my stuff changed, or whatever, PM me or leave the message here.

I see some really good stuff offered. I just went through my hard drive and looked. I tried not to use complicated shots, I do have a few dynamite photos, just did not think they were mug photos, and what is dyanamite to me......etc.

I tried to mix it up. I know the guy, the one kite surfing, a release is no problem.

I wish I were going to be here this afternoon, or that I had never started being involved.

As a note on fame.

Barnes and Noble will no longer let me photograph, ANYTHING, as I was photographing a photo, a good photo, on a book re Johnny Cash. They implied I was breaking copyright laws on purpose. I was just trying to get the feel of books, for no reason whatsoever.

That might give you an idea, though, re releases. On the famous. I don't know who you are talking about, it would kind of help to "know" your person. Some people are not going to go to the work to sue..........it is work. famous people do it to prove a point. Then they would get an article written on them attacking a nice company like smugmug, etc. Just MHO. I am too scared, and I break many rules.......but I am scared, especially when it comes to kids.

I have those, too. But I didn't think of my family last night, and they would have been safe. I would not go heavily on family of others unless very good. I don't, personally, and others don't, really care that much about other people's kids. They might be cute and all, but not with my coffee.

Also, the gender angle, people will/ could be taking mugs home for wife, partner, etc.

And why are all these people males????

ginger

[wholenewlight]

Everyone: these are GREAT and I so appreciate the response at short notice. I'll be preparing pics until 8 tonight Pacific Time so maybe I'll get 20ish with quotes?

Question: what's the legality of having an image of a well-known persona or product on something like this where we place our brand on it?Don't know the answer. I've used this shot for my own promo because it was shot at a very public event and it isn't showcasing any particular name, logo, etc. And anyway, I'm a tiny fish compared to a big fish like smugmug!

I could do some photoshop work and replace all the logos with smugmug "grins"?? Nah, I guess that would really be bad . . .

What if this were a Nascar shot with tons of brand names, or an "Andy" NYC street shot with a fedex truck somewhere in the frame? And aren't certain landmarks protected? Maybe El Capitan requires natl park permission:rofl .

Baldy, have fun choosing. LOTS of great shots have been posted.

[wxwax]

Question: what's the legality of having an image of a well-known persona or product on something like this where we place our brand on it?

Not permissable, unfortunately. As Lynnsite says... models are releases needed for recognizable faces/figures. Can't use brands without a release. If the shot was taken on private property, need a location release.

These images are being for commercial gain, and so are subject to the most extreme rights restrictions.

[dragon300zx]

party pooper. :jose

[Baldy]

Okay, great. I got a bunch in email and PMs too, so I don't have to take any legal risks, got plenty to choose from. Andy turned over his portfolio and he's got some great stuff. Don't think people know seemorg much yet (1 post) but I've chosen a few of his too.

http://mishuna.image.pbase.com/u38/salim/large/25004240.sf_ref_1_filtered_rs_vsw.jpg

Anyone know thegreenegg? Would love to get permission to use this one:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/19133765-M.jpg

[Baldy]

Okay, gut check: this would be final art for one of the mugs assuming I don't have a typo, you don't think I've done a tacky job, etc.:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22347872-O.jpg

The breaking news is we could only get gift boxes for the 11-ounce mugs, which have pics of 3.0x8.5" (quite pano) or 450x1275 pixels.

Type the right size? Pic on the correct side? Copyright notice okay? If so, more to follow.

[Seymore]

I like... Might I make a suggestion? Instead of putting the Copyright on the PIC, and detracting from the PIC, can something like "Photo by Ed Hughes" be put below the Smugmug logo?

(thinking outloud)

[dragon300zx]

Looks good to me.

[SusanB]

The only thing that I noticed is that the type is not centered in the white area.


Susan

[Ann McRae]

Hi Baldy

Mine are free game, but for the sports and school galleries. I would like my name included, and am not much for knowing quotes.
Some possibilities:
from this gallery:
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/gallery/58566
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/2034922-S-1.jpg


http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/2034924-S.jpg

from close to home:
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/9547037-S.jpg
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/13714179-S.jpg
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/14189844-S.jpg

from further away:
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/2907733-S.jpg
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/3431185-S.jpg

http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/3431207-S-1.jpg

ann

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22354019-L.jpg

[wxwax]

:nod Looks good.

[Kirwin]

Hi Baldy,

If any of these images help... I would be most honored.

Here's a link to the images I just recently posted called "Rookery Overload"...

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=11371

Good luck on your project!

[Baldy]

This one in particular is easier to see in the white style, lower left, since the mugs will be white and there's a 1px black border on this one.

Also, someone mentioned the text not being centered. Good point but the reason is there's about a half-inch white space to one side of the image between it and the handle.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22356744-O.jpg

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22359431-L.jpg

[Nee7x7]

I agree with Seymore about the photog name placement, but suggest you might put it to next to the photo at the bottom right side rather than under the Smugmug logo. You might also want to center the type on the white area (or put it closer to the photo...the mugs can't be that large, LOL!).

Photos of people can be used if their identities are not recognizable (as in silhouette or they are soooo small you can't tell even with a magnifying glass). However, feel free to use my photo of my grandson (or any others of him you'd like) as I can get you a model release for him (and give you permission to use his likeness as well). I'd always thought that people in public events (such as sports, parades, etc.) or celebrities (in public) were fair game and did not need model releases to have their likenesses used, but it's probably best to be safe rather than sorry.

Good luck tonight, Baldy...you certainly have your work cut out for you!!!

~Nee

[Baldy]

"... eternity through the moment." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson

Feel free to use this quotation and/or any of my photos. Here are a few I think might work.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/14533445-M.jpg
Cool. I don't have to worry about model releases on that?

[DavidTO]

May be too late, but I wanted to check with my daughter.

Here's two of her that I would submit:

http://davidrosenthal.smugmug.com/photos/8091096-M.jpg

http://davidrosenthal.smugmug.com/photos/8092261-M.jpg

[Nee7x7]

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256491-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256499-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13846006-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256791-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256801-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13829545-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13828944-M.jpg

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256816-M.jpg

[wxwax]

What's this? A squat? I see a copyright violation!

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13828944-Th.jpg

[Nee7x7]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
:uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh
:dunno :dunno :dunno

~Nee :huh

[wxwax]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
:uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh
:dunno :dunno :dunno

~Nee :huh
The squat. :lol3 Yosemite? Had to be there. Wait, you were there!

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22361616-L.jpg

[lynnma]

I'm way late but you can have any of mine (such as they are) except the "people" gallery.. not sure on releases on some :roflif you want "snowball fight" fight thats fine :rofl he belongs to me :rofl

[Nee7x7]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22361616-L.jpg:thumb :thumb :thumb :thumb
You're doing great, Baldy...(but be sure to center that type, will ya?)
~Nee :rolleyes

[Ann McRae]

Hey, Baldy, it would be great if these mugs could go into production for sale to us other grinners. What do you think?

ann

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22364331-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

Fee free to change the text, I just used one of yours:-)

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/22364671-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

Hey, Baldy, it would be great if these mugs could go into production for sale to us other grinners. What do you think?

ann
You can always order a mug with your own image, or with almost any other smugmug photo, can you not?

[rutt]

Cool. I don't have to worry about model releases on that?

No problem. This is the daughter of a close friend and I already submitted to KPotD with mother's approval.

[rutt]

Baldy, I love the Betrand Russell quotation. I didn't know it, but Russell was a hero of mine when I was a philosophy major in the early 70s.

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22366451-L.jpg

[Baldy]

Baldy, I love the Betrand Russell quotation. I didn't know it, but Russell was a hero of mine when I was a philosophy major in the early 70s.Me too. I have to say it's the most powerful one of the lot, especially combined with that shot of the skyline.

Am I wrong?

[DavidTO]

Probably not a quote that you want to use, but one I just read that made me laugh:

"How long was the exposure? f8 and a dry martini" Ian Bradshaw

(in reference to a shot he took at night of the Rock of Gibraltar, in a long exposure, and I actually paraphrased the first half. The f8 and a dry martini are literal, though)

[BridgeCity]

Don't know if I am too late, but I just submitted a few to your PM Baldy. This is a great project... i only wish I would have seen it yesterday :cry

[Baldy]

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http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22367332-L.jpg

[BridgeCity]

Wow.. i really like that one!

[Baldy]

Probably not a quote that you want to use, but one I just read that made me laugh:

"How long was the exposure? f8 and a dry martini" Ian Bradshaw

(in reference to a shot he took at night of the Rock of Gibraltar, in a long exposure, and I actually paraphrased the first half. The f8 and a dry martini are literal, though):rofl:rofl:rofl

I found another quote I wish I could use from Ken Auletta, a business book writer these guys would know:

Always point your finger at the chest of the person with whom you are being photographed. You will appear dynamic. And no photo editor can crop you from the picture. -Ken Auletta

[Baldy]

Wow.. i really like that one!I bumped up the font a size after posting it so it will be a bit more powerful for the mug.

[BridgeCity]

I bumped up the font a size after posting it so it will be a bit more powerful for the mug.
Good call.. how many do you have done now?

[Skippy]

Gidday Baldy :D

Recon ya need some help from ya mates....... I was having a bobby cook (look) through me stuff, and there it was........I says to meself fair suck of the sav Skippy this is very Steve Irwin'ish :rofl ..... Skippy (Australia) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Ozzie_Skip/LizardAttack.jpg

[Baldy]

Upon further review, I decided this sky did more to shore up Ansel's quote:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22370021-L.jpg

than the sky in this one:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22366451-L.jpg

I'll try to find another quote for that last one.

[Baldy]

Good call.. how many do you have done now?Erem, 10. Trying to get 20 but only 3.5 hours left! Don't have permission for the sultry one yet.

[BridgeCity]

Let me know if you need some help :) Have CS will edit lol

[Baldy]

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Andy may shoot me dead in the street for messing with his composition and making this more pano, but the mugs are so....pano.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22372285-L.jpg

[dragon300zx]

Just get him some ribs

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Andy may shoot me dead in the street for messing with his composition and making this more pano, but the mugs are so....pano.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22372285-L.jpg

[Baldy]

New quote. Not quite as in tune with the audience, more in tune with photographers, so I have some misgivings:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22373493-L.jpg

[rutt]

Digging around for good quotations for you I found two by Avedon:

Beauty can be as isolating as genius, or deformity. I have always been aware of a relationship between madness and beauty.

Just advertising departments with legs and high heels.


Just shorten that first one to "..a relationship between madness and beauty." or just "... madness and beauty."

[BridgeCity]

Hrm i like this one...


Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure.
-Tony Benn

[DavidTO]

Hrm i like this one...


Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure.
-Tony Benn


Stick that on Lynn's snowball fight!

[BridgeCity]

The camera always points both ways. In expressing your subject, you also express yourself. -Freeman Patterson

[ginger_55]

Gidday Baldy :D

Recon ya need some help from ya mates....... I was having a bobby cook (look) through me stuff, and there it was........I says to meself fair suck of the sav Skippy this is very Steve Irwin'ish :rofl ..... Skippy (Australia) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Ozzie_Skip/LizardAttack.jpg

I personally like this one alot, for all ages and all genders, etc.

Including suits.

g

[rutt]

I personally like this one alot, for all ages and all genders, etc.

Including suits.

g


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Ozzie_Skip/LizardAttack.jpg

"... beauty and madness." -- Richard Avedon

OK, it's out of context. But you couldn't ask for a better quotation for this picture.

[Andy]

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Andy may shoot me dead in the street for messing with his composition and making this more pano, but the mugs are so....pano.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22372285-L.jpg

just get him some ribs...

well, funnily enough i dined inside this photograph tonight! i ate with a client at cipriani dolci, one of the three restaurants on the balcony in grand central...

mozzarella di bufala, with tomatoes and black olive paste
insalate cesare
freshly made spinach and veal ravioli
risotto alla primavera

:food :lust

[lynnesite]

Upon further review, I decided this sky did more to shore up Ansel's quote:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22370021-S.jpg

than the sky in this one:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22366451-S.jpg

I'll try to find another quote for that last one.

Looks good, would ya mind dumping the "e" on the end of Lynne for me?

Dave, of course I love those two of Alaina and my darling Em. Such emotion.

[Sheila Smart]

This is my most commercial image (sold a fair few of them as prints) and you are welcome to use it. http://sheilasmart.smugmug.com/photos/6448233-L.jpgYou can probably use the quote of EE in my signature.
Cheers
Sheila

[Nikolai]

The art of photography mostly consists of
being in the right place at the right time
having the right equipment and the right attitude

[lr1811]

if it's not too late to submit...

[Baldy]

Gidday Baldy :D

Recon ya need some help from ya mates....... I was having a bobby cook (look) through me stuff, and there it was........I says to meself fair suck of the sav Skippy this is very Steve Irwin'ish :rofl ..... Skippy (Australia) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Ozzie_Skip/LizardAttack.jpgCan someone give me Skippy's name in a hurry? Deadline: 15 minutes.

[Andy]

Can someone give me Skippy's name in a hurry? Deadline: 15 minutes.

DONE, via pm to baldy.

[Baldy]

I'll give an update when I get a chance but I have a fire to put out: I placed the copyright notices too close to the bottom in the bleed/trim area (something I tell our customers to never do) so the bottoms of the letters are getting lost.

We ended up with 15 variations of photos and quotes (my goal was 20, but 15 great ones is still great). A few variations went overboard at the last minute because other smuggers felt the quote wasn't powerful enough, or I didn't have permission (didn't get Ashley permission for the edgy one 'till this a.m. 'cus she was offline yesterday), or I couldn't find the original version fast enough in your galleries, or portrait mode didn't work on so wide a mug, etc.)

Film at 11.

And THANK YOU!!!!

[ian408]

I just caught this thread. Very cool and nice work!

Looks like smugmug has a new marketing give-away :)

Ian

[Sam]

I just wanted to share my thoughts on this. When first I saw the request I thought, can you imagine if someone out of the blue came on and said "Hey y'all I need some some really neat 1st rate photos to promote my business, but no money will be changing hands". :rofl :rofl :rofl

Baldy askes and wala! (VERY DESERVINGLY) gets everyone, (including me) to contribute. In less that 24 hours he has new, original, and very high quality artwork for his project.

Amazing

I for one hope your project went well. Next time give us more time. This looked like the best contest we have had. :):

Now we'll have to listen to those few chosen ones tell us about thier damn coffee cups. :cry

Sam :D

[GREAPER]

I would love to see what all was used.

[Nee7x7]

I saw what looked like the finished mock-ups in Baldy's Smugmug gallery. They looked great! :thumb :thumb :thumb
~Nee :)

[Bodwick]

I just wanted to share my thoughts on this. When first I saw the request I thought, can you imagine if someone out of the blue came on and said "Hey y'all I need some some really neat 1st rate photos to promote my business, but no money will be changing hands". :rofl :rofl :rofl

Sam :D

Yes I can imagine the response.......

So why no payment?

SmugMug is not free and is increasing charges vastly. Run as a business, as it should be that's not a problem....

The mugs are for a business venture that unless I'm very mistaken will not be provided free. The fact that the mugs are handed out free to advertise smugmug means nothing.

Could Baldy manage to send the 'lucky' people a free mug maybe? or what about giving out a 'free' upgrade to pro-account for those used if money is so tight....

Anything as payment, rather than what looks to me like a cheap method of gaining free shots and one that from any other source would have been greeted with outright rage from more than a few......


It's always nice to help out people out but this seems strange to me...
Dig into your pocket/business account and do this properly or lets hear why not....



Bod......
Ranting on a Saturday morning........

[bfjr]

Yes I can imagine the response.......

So why no payment?

SmugMug is not free and is increasing charges vastly. Run as a business, as it should be that's not a problem....

The mugs are for a business venture that unless I'm very mistaken will not be provided free. The fact that the mugs are handed out free to advertise smugmug means nothing.

Could Baldy manage to send the 'lucky' people a free mug maybe? or what about giving out a 'free' upgrade to pro-account for those used if money is so tight....

Anything as payment, rather than what looks to me like a cheap method of gaining free shots and one that from any other source would have been greeted with outright rage from more than a few......


It's always nice to help out people out but this seems strange to me...
Dig into your pocket/business account and do this properly or lets hear why not....



Bod......
Ranting on a Saturday morning........ That seems strange to me :dunno

We all (me included) jumped on this thread when baldy 1st posted, and I don't recall anyone asking about $$. Now after the fact we should concern ouselves with some sort of payment :scratch

In fact Baldy's 1st post indicated your payment :lol


JMO and 2 cents :D

[Bodwick]

That seems strange to me :dunno
Does it? If thats the strangest thing you can't get your head round maybe you should get out more.

We all (me included) jumped on this thread when baldy 1st posted, and I don't recall anyone asking about $$. Now after the fact we should concern ouselves with some sort of payment :scratch
Whats with all the we? I must have missed the replies from the other near 3000 members or are you talking on everyones behalf.
As for those that offered pic's being the 'we' you can all do what you want. I'm asking why smugmug can't stretch to paying for a business product. What sort of example is that to set.
As I offered nothing I could not care less if your paid or not I'd just be interested to hear why not.......
"Cos Baldy's such a nice guy and lets us use 'his' forum....." Thats fine but smugmugs a business as stated many times in the don't mess with the smugmug good name type threads...

As usual, use your pic's however you want and if that's a free shot for a mug giveaway thats fine....But I'll stick with my 'Looks cheap' comment....Why? because it just does.

As for nobody asking for payment after post 1 saying 'you ain't getting one' who would want to mention it after that comment. Now after the event I'm asking why?


In fact Baldy's 1st post indicated your payment :lol
I'd laugh along with you if I had the slightest idea what the joke was....:dunno

[bfjr]

Does it? If thats the strangest thing you can't get your head round maybe you should get out more.


Whats with all the we? I must have missed the replies from the other near 3000 members or are you talking on everyones behalf.
As for those that offered pic's being the 'we' you can all do what you want. I'm asking why smugmug can't stretch to paying for a business product. What sort of example is that to set.
As I offered nothing I could not care less if your paid or not I'd just be interested to hear why not.......
"Cos Baldy's such a nice guy and lets us use 'his' forum....." Thats fine but smugmugs a business as stated many times in the don't mess with the smugmug good name type threads...

As usual, use your pic's however you want and if that's a free shot for a mug giveaway thats fine....But I'll stick with my 'Looks cheap' comment....Why? because it just does.

As for nobody asking for payment after post 1 saying 'you ain't getting one' who would want to mention it after that comment. Now after the event I'm asking why?



I'd laugh along with you if I had the slightest idea what the joke was....:dunno Gee I guess you just straightened me out !!

Sorry, I really can't answer your question as to why no $. Don't work at Smugmug, just play here.

The "We" actually meant you and me, cause I thought for sure someone so interested in being compensated would have been one who submitted an image, go figure ??

Sorry as well about your sense of humor, or lack of it. Gotta go now and get out more.

[DavidTO]

smugmug has a lot of different types of users. Casual users, who pay for services they use, and never look at this forum. Pro users who pay and never look at this forum. There are users that are on this forum just to share images, some just to learn about API.

There are many customers here who have a connection with the people at smugmug. They are good people, a family owned and operated business. Kind, responsive people doing their best. By being so available to their customers, they have established a relationship with many that goes beyond just providing a service. I experienced this up at Yosemite. Sure, I paid my way, but in return I got a dinner hosted by smugmug, a hat, a fleece, and the expert advice of Marc Muench, an amazing landscape photographer. All this for my $30 annual subscription. Not to mention the amazing customer service that I've had here.

smugmug is a building business that has earned the right, IMO to ask for some help from it's customers that have benefitted from their hard work. Not that you have to give them anything for free, but there's plenty of us that don't mind. If you do mind, don't participate. But there's no need to complain about it after the fact.

[wxwax]

Feeling a bit bolshy, Bodwick? :evil

Baldy made it utterly clear in his first post that there would be no money involved. Anyone who wasn't comfortable with those terms didn't have to submit anything.

Turns out a lot of people were comfortable with those terms. That's their business. Not for you or me to second guess them.

I understand that it seems odd that a business would ask for free images to promote itself. I think DavidTO did a nice job of explaining why folks who clearly understood the very issue you raise, decided to let smugmug use their images with only a credit. I might add that some of the donators are people who regularly sell their images.

As I said, that's their business, no-one else's.

[ginger_55]

A few days ago, I just wanted to know what is wrong with my photos.

Challenges, free offers of photos. If I paid someone would they take them, other than family and friends.

I do think that is a legitimate feeling that I set myself up for. I think I can handle the challenges, if not, I will get out.

But I just cannot respond to emergency calls for photos that don't turn out to be that urgent: lots of photos poured in.

At the time of the call, it was not about the money. It still isn't. It was stated at the beginning. I just wanted to help. Set myself up for another letdown at a time I felt full of them.

Life goes on.

What was wrong with my photos? compared to say the great pros like Andy, haha, of course, I understand that.

Just ranting.

Yes, I am feeling a bit of whatever one wants to accuse me of. Now I have to hunt up Baldy's site so I can see the mockups as they played out.

ginger

[Bodwick]

Feeling a bit bolshy, Bodwick? :evil

Baldy made it utterly clear in his first post that there would be no money involved. Anyone who wasn't comfortable with those terms didn't have to submit anything.

Turns out a lot of people were comfortable with those terms. That's their business. Not for you or me to second guess them.

I understand that it seems odd that a business would ask for free images to promote itself. I think DavidTO did a nice job of explaining why folks who clearly understood the very issue you raise, decided to let smugmug use their images with only a credit. I might add that some of the donators are people who regularly sell their images.

As I said, that's their business, no-one else's.

All very good points the same as DavidTO who's well constructed reply I agree with....

Yep, your right it's been a **** day....As usual tomorrow is another day I guess I need to go and have a go at Flug or Icy on AdvR rather than start trouble here.........

I'm well aware of the 'family' type site structure and as such can be called the 'wierd Uncle' that turns up at Xmas and annoys the rest of the family.....:D

Bod.....

[wxwax]

Yep, your right it's been a **** day....As usual tomorrow is another day I guess I need to go and have a go at Flug or Icy on AdvR rather than start trouble here.........

Bod.....

Have a go at Icy for me, too, he deserves it. :1drink

[Baldy]

Okay, an update:

The conference starts tonight and it's called D. It's Walt Mossberg's conference on all things digital. He's a noted Wall Street Journal columnist on technology.

It's the third year for the conference and Kodak/Ofoto was the official photo sharing site in the two previous years. They asked if we could do this on pretty short notice, but the site was the easy part. It's at:

d.smugmug.com (http://d.smugmug.com)

Strangely, the gifts were the hard part because the other companies giving gifts were pretty wealthy and well-known brands. What could we give that would stand out?

We passed a number of ideas by the show organizer and they all feel flat. Been done, etc. So I came up with the mug idea from the photos we saw come out of Yosemite. By that time, we were down to the short end of a very short wire.

The goal was 20 mug/quote combinations. It didn't turn out to be so easy and near the end of my deadline I only had 10 that really popped. So I did the quick & easy thing and plundered Andy's galleries and came up with 5 more.

Unfortunately, not all of them made the cut after we saw the production on the mugs. Some photos reproduced beautifully on white ceramic and some didn't.

So, I'm re-working some art as we speak and tonight I'll load final art for the ones that turned out to be prime-time. I suspect we'll have 12 total. Still looking for photos to go with the rest of the quotes that really moved us, so we'll need about 6 more photos in time.

Once I get the gallery of final art, I'm happy to order mugs for anyone who wants them.

Sorry about the non-payment thing. I knew that would ruffle some feathers and that's understandable. We pay for photos we use in ads, etc. But the fuse on this was too short to negotiate payments & rights, get a contract drafted and signed, etc. So we just decided to draw on passionate amateurs who wanted to see their photos on gifts. We knew it meant forgoing the photos we could have had if we paid. I tried not to put pressure on anyone who does this for a living to give us their photos for free.

All the best,
Baldy

[Baldy]

Okay, here's art for the small mugs (I also did art for the large mugs in a separate gallery). We have 13 mugs and I'm still looking for photos to go with quotes like "When your mouth drops open, click the shutter." But we're finally not in a rush.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803346-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803384-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803365-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803364-L-1.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803352-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803354-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803357-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803360-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803363-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803372-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803378-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803380-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803382-L.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803368-L.jpg

[Shay Stephens]

Those are awesome!

Okay, here's art for the small mugs

[Nikolai]

I didn't make it on the mug this time.. oh well, some day:-):D

[Baldy]

I didn't make it on the mug this time.. oh well, some day:-):DNor did I. :cry

Ah well, that's what dgrin is all about, learning from the mastahs. :bow:bow:bow

I will say I tried many outstanding shots, truly great ones, including many of Andy's that just didn't work on the mugs for one reason or other, so luck played a role.

Having said that, Andy seems to be a very lucky man when it comes to this stuff...

[ian408]

Isn't amazing how photos reproduce on various things?

A shot that is stunningly beautiful on photo paper maybe doesn't cut the
mustard with another reproduction process or media.

Gives you a little more insight into the art director's world. Doesn't it?

Ian

[Baldy]

Yeah, it turns out that the photos which worked best here were landscape and the more pano the better.

Also, not too much detail, because the small mugs are only 450 pixels vertically.

And, since the mug curves, it has to be compelling when you just see part of the shot, because another part isn't visible unless you rotate the mug. If Bridal Veil Falls in Yosemite makes the shot but you can't see it when you glance at the mug from some angle, that shot's toast as far as mugs go.

And there was something magic when they fit the quote perfectly. I have a collection of great shots that don't quite fit my quotes. It's painful to look at them and think there must be some quote I'm missing...

[Harryb]

Okay, here's art for the small mugs (I also did art for the large mugs in a separate gallery). We have 13 mugs and I'm still looking for photos to go with quotes like "When your mouth drops open, click the shutter." But we're finally not in a rush.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22803352-L.jpg

Hi Baldy,

I'm shocked that you were able to get Andy's pic of me on a small mug. I haven't been able to fit into a small size myself for years.

Of course you know I never signed a model release for that shot. You have a choice here before I call my lawyer. Either you recompense me with a 500mm/f4 lens (nikon mount of course) or if that's too much I'll settle for a mug. :D

[Gator]

All beautiful photos! What a great way to promote smugmug and Andy!

[Baldy]

Hi Baldy,

I'm shocked that you were able to get Andy's pic of me on a small mug. I haven't been able to fit into a small size myself for years.

Of course you know I never signed a model release for that shot. You have a choice here before I call my lawyer. Either you recompense me with a 500mm/f4 lens (nikon mount of course) or if that's too much I'll settle for a mug. :D:rofl:rofl:rofl

A mug is on its way! Just let me know whether you want 11 ounce or 15 ounce (or both), and any other mugs.

[Baldy]

Okay, two new mugs brings us to 15:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22848673-L-1.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/22817528-L-1.jpg

[Gator]

Again more beautiful images!! Way to go all involved!:thumb

[Gator]

Pardon me if this has already been addressed, but I see several I would love to have! Will they be available and how do we order? I think I may use some for Christmas gifts...:D :clap

[Ann McRae]

Wow! truely awesome!

And they would make wonderful products for the photogs to sell (hint, hint, I'd like a whole set!)

ann

[gus]

Ed...that shot is simply amazing. :thumb

[Steve Cavigliano]

Ed...that shot is simply amazing. :thumbIt's sickening is what it is Gus :lol :lol That darn Ed :huh Rubbing our faces in those bear pics and now he brings this one out again, just to torture us......lol

J/K Ed knows that this shot is one of my all time favorites. We've had lots of coyote discussions and this shot comes up everytime....LOL Watch him come back with a Condor shot (probably tap-dancing :rolleyes ) from the Pinnacles shoot next month :bad


Steve

[ehughes]

It's sickening is what it is Gus :lol :lol That darn Ed :huh Rubbing our faces in those bear pics and now he brings this one out again, just to torture us......lol

J/K Ed knows that this shot is one of my all time favorites. We've had lots of coyote discussions and this shot comes up everytime....LOL Watch him come back with a Condor shot (probably tap-dancing :rolleyes ) from the Pinnacles shoot next month :bad


Steve
Thanks Gus,

Here ya go Steve

http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22885054-M.gif

[Steve Cavigliano]

Thanks Gus,

Here ya go Steve

http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/22885054-M.gif

See? Didn't I tell you he was a trouble maker :lol3

Steve

[Baldy]

Ed knows that this shot is one of my all time favorites. We've had lots of coyote discussions and this shot comes up everytime....I showed it to several people this a.m. to test for a reaction and they just gasped and stared. No one had ever seen a coyote do that or knew they did. And it's a beautiful creature. Is it fox or coyote? People just kept talking about it.

[ehughes]

I showed it to several people this a.m. to test for a reaction and they just gasped and stared. No one had ever seen a coyote do that or knew they did. And it's a beautiful creature. Is it fox or coyote? People just kept talking about it.
It's a Coyote, taken in Yosemite Valley right before Christmas 04. If anyone is interestd, I could post the rest of the sequence, but this one is my favorite.

I'm happy to hear that they liked it :D

Ed

[Baldy]

Pardon me if this has already been addressed, but I see several I would love to have! Will they be available and how do we order? I think I may use some for Christmas gifts...:D :clapWell, I didn't think of that when I rushed into this... :doh

Seems to me it's in the interest of smugmug and the photographers to have this happen, so I set up two galleries with final art, one for small mugs and one for large:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/541252
http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/549683

The coyote and New York skyline shots are not in the large gallery yet. I may have to adjust the New York skyline a little after seeing a production mug because the blues on ceramic are a little saturated.

You have to use the no-crop option and for reasons too involved to explain, on mugs the no-crop option will look funny (the two white strips are too fat). In fact, with the no-crop option they'll print fine.

So there's only one remaining issue that I can think of: we didn't ask for free shots to sell the mugs at a markup, we asked if we could give them as gifts. Does this give heartburn to the photographers involved?

Currently I mark them up a penny so that I can see how many of which are being ordered, but smugmug makes a markup based on EZ Prints charging us less than our retail. And I have no way to set the shopping cart prices to wholesale.

If we were to sell a lot of mugs and I had to track, report, collect 1099 forms, pay, etc., I'd be in for more work than I bargained for. I don't mind the payment, it's the work.

My guess is sales are going to be fairly small and limited to dgrin friends, so can we just let this go or am I sounding like an evil, lazy cheapskate? :uhoh

(You can respond via PM if you feel more comfortable.)

Thanks,
Baldy

[Baldy]

YIKES! There's no way Tony Benn made three of those quotes. I've gotta go back and check attribution and change the art, but I can't tonight.

[Baldy]

Okay, I fixed the two errant quotes. Harry, that means the two mugs I sent you are no good. I just send another two to replace them.

[Andy]

Well, I didn't think of that when I rushed into this... :doh

Seems to me it's in the interest of smugmug and the photographers to have this happen, so I set up two galleries with final art, one for small mugs and one for large:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/541252
http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/549683

The coyote and New York skyline shots are not in the large gallery yet. I may have to adjust the New York skyline a little after seeing a production mug because the blues on ceramic are a little saturated.

You have to use the no-crop option and for reasons too involved to explain, on mugs the no-crop option will look funny (the two white strips are too fat). In fact, with the no-crop option they'll print fine.

So there's only one remaining issue that I can think of: we didn't ask for free shots to sell the mugs at a markup, we asked if we could give them as gifts. Does this give heartburn to the photographers involved?

Currently I mark them up a penny so that I can see how many of which are being ordered, but smugmug makes a markup based on EZ Prints charging us less than our retail. And I have no way to set the shopping cart prices to wholesale.

If we were to sell a lot of mugs and I had to track, report, collect 1099 forms, pay, etc., I'd be in for more work than I bargained for. I don't mind the payment, it's the work.

My guess is sales are going to be fairly small and limited to dgrin friends, so can we just let this go or am I sounding like an evil, lazy cheapskate? :uhoh

(You can respond via PM if you feel more comfortable.)

Thanks,
Baldy


baldy, as far as i'm concerned, sell as many as you can and put the little extra something to work at smugmug :deal even better, maybe take out the staff to a huge dinner in nyc this fall :lol3

[Gator]

Had I been chosen, not that I submitted anything, I would feel the same as Andy.

[tmlphoto]

Well, I didn't think of that when I rushed into this... :doh

Seems to me it's in the interest of smugmug and the photographers to have this happen, so I set up two galleries with final art, one for small mugs and one for large:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/541252
http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/549683

The coyote and New York skyline shots are not in the large gallery yet. I may have to adjust the New York skyline a little after seeing a production mug because the blues on ceramic are a little saturated.

You have to use the no-crop option and for reasons too involved to explain, on mugs the no-crop option will look funny (the two white strips are too fat). In fact, with the no-crop option they'll print fine.

So there's only one remaining issue that I can think of: we didn't ask for free shots to sell the mugs at a markup, we asked if we could give them as gifts. Does this give heartburn to the photographers involved?

Currently I mark them up a penny so that I can see how many of which are being ordered, but smugmug makes a markup based on EZ Prints charging us less than our retail. And I have no way to set the shopping cart prices to wholesale.

If we were to sell a lot of mugs and I had to track, report, collect 1099 forms, pay, etc., I'd be in for more work than I bargained for. I don't mind the payment, it's the work.

My guess is sales are going to be fairly small and limited to dgrin friends, so can we just let this go or am I sounding like an evil, lazy cheapskate? :uhoh

(You can respond via PM if you feel more comfortable.)

Thanks,
Baldy
Ok by me if you want to sell them. I would like a mug. Should I order one or can you send me one?
Thomas

[ehughes]

Ok by me if you want to sell them. I would like a mug. Should I order one or can you send me one?
Thomas

Same here, go for it Baldy..

Ed

[kudbegud]

how were the mugs received? did they like them?

[Baldy]

So, update....

1. I got the next test batch back and two things remain to fix. One is the photo tends to bleed on its edge if I get it too close to the handle, so I have to add 1/4" of white there. The other is the blue is too saturated, so shadow areas by Ed's Coyote turn out bluish and Shay's New York Skyline is awash in it. So I need to desaturate the blues a bit.

2. I made up two more mugs with Marc Adamus's shots and will display them here when I'm sure he's passed off on how they're handled. That brings us to 19.

3. O'Reilly, the company that organizes some pretty influencial technology conferences, was at D where we gave these mugs away. They've asked if they can get them for a conference they're doing where they'd need 2,000 mugs... We're considering.

The thing is I think they'd be most appreciated & have the biggest impact at shows with photographers, so we're thinking where best to spend our meager mug budget.

Thanks,
Chris

[ian408]

For those that may not know. O'Reilly (not the AM talk show host) is on
of the better publishers of technical books. Especially their "nutshell" series.

Of course now, I just look for the O'Reilly brand first and then compare. Most
likely, O'Reilly wins.

Ian

[Baldy]

It's true, for those in the know the O'Reilly brand of computing books is the best there is.

I used to own a chain of technical bookstores and I'd watch customers come to a subject area on the shelf and just pick the O'Reilly titles.

I love the cool covers they use:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0596008767.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Tim O'Reilly is an uber geek, and when he speaks most geeks bow.

[dragon300zx]

I have about 10 O'Reilly's on my book shelfs already. Buy one or two a month lately. Great books.

[Baldy]

Okay, I added 4 more mugs:

This one is a photo and the artist is pretty famous and a new smugmugger. The next batch of mugs will be used at a technical conference so we're experimenting with this mug.

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/25622286-L-1.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/25645503-L-2.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/25630354-L-1.jpg

http://cmac.smugmug.com/photos/25630355-L-1.jpg

I'm still looking for a shot for the 20th and last mug, to go with the quote, "Photographs are moments eternally flabbergasted." -Shayna Bauchner.

And I'm still adjusting colors for Shay, the coyote shot of Ed Hughes, and Lynma's shot because the mugs oversaturate blues.

Thanks,
Baldy

[gus]

I havnt got much baldy but i like these few i took in africa & recon the least i can do for you blokes is offer something.

Im well aware they are not up with that coyote of ed's (damn ed that is better than most geographic stuff i look at..seriously) but come on guys ..SM needs help so lets put our favorites up.

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6577988-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6613886-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6637138-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6637158-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6637412-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6637591-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6656310-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6676603-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6676619-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6691046-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/6691116-M.jpg

http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/11981805-M.jpg

[Seamus]

If these are of any use to you feel free


http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/25086273-L.jpg


and

http://seamus.smugmug.com/photos/25342262-L.jpg


the gallery is herehttp://seamus.smugmug.com/gallery/582408/1/25342262

Shay

[Baldy]

Wow, great shots guys. Many thanks! I'm looking to see if I can find the right quotes to make the pic/quote magic work.

All the best,
Baldy

[erich6]

Here's one for your consideration.

Erich

http://hbphoto.smugmug.com/photos/21256213-L.jpg (http://hbphoto.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=21256213)

[erich6]

Here's another one

http://hbphoto.smugmug.com/photos/16531972-L.jpg (http://hbphoto.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=16531972)

[erich6]

...and one more.

http://hbphoto.smugmug.com/photos/25875551-L.jpg (http://hbphoto.smugmug.com)

[luckyrwe]

erich6, great pics! What gear did you use with them, do you remember? I hope you can get together with some of us southern CA folks, i really want to do the camera show in July... :>

[rutt]

A couple of mine you might like:

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/16590112-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/14727725-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/6986919-L.jpg

[spockling]

How about...
http://lonepine.smugmug.com/photos/25893571-L.jpg

"Perseverance is not a long race; it is many short races one after another." (Walter Elliott)

[erich6]

erich6, great pics! What gear did you use with them, do you remember? I hope you can get together with some of us southern CA folks, i really want to do the camera show in July... :>
I'm interested in a So. Cal shootout as well. Could be combined with the camera show. :D Do you know the dates in July?

I took the first two photos with a Canon Digital Rebel (you can check out the EXIF by clicking on them). The first was using the original Canon 18-55 mm kit lens while the second one was done with a Quantarray telezoom (70-300 mm). The third was taken with an old 35 mm Canon point-and-shoot using B&W film.

Erich

[luckyrwe]

July 17th is the next camera show, how many of us can get together? I will see what I can do that day.... cameraexpo dot com for the show info.

[Nee7x7]

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14256802-L.jpg

Or maybe this one?

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/13828934-L.jpg

Or (last but not least) this one?

http://nee.smugmug.com/photos/14253646-O.jpg

Cheers,
~Nee :rolleyes