NEW: 5x7 Folded Cards

[Andy]

We've updated our Card Maker to include gorgeous 5x7 folded cards :clap

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/412656592_nvMfF-XL.jpg

Just in time for the holidays, a ton of great designs to choose from.

See them all Here (http://cards.smugmug.com/5x7%20Folded%20Cards). Help (http://www.smugmug.com/help/photo-greeting-cards) & Info (http://www.smugmug.com/prints/5x7-folded-cards) :D

Keep checking back to the card maker, because there will be cards for Baby Announcements, Birthdays, Valentine's, Party Invitations, Mother's Day, and more :D There are even "blank" templates so you pros can put your own photo on the front, and your own message inside (e.g., "Thank You" ) :D

We'll have Release Notes (http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/) updated as soon as possible :deal

FAQS:

Q: I'm a pro, can I pro price these?
A: No, not at this time, sorry. Here's a neat trick though (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=76819)!

Q: Why can't some of my images work on certain cards?
A: Our cards are awesomely high quality, and the photos need to match :) That means, that for 5x7 cards, photos would have to be 2000 pixels on each side or larger to fit on every card in every possible photo opening. Some cards have openings that will support smaller images, but at 2000x2000 and larger, you'll be safe for 'em all :thumb

Q: Can I make a custom card of my own design?
A: You bet! For each side, Specs are, 2000 pixels by 2800 pixels, and here's a visual aid to help (http://cards.smugmug.com/photos/420530129_X4JqY-L.jpg). Once you upload your custom design, you can order it as a 5x7 folded card if you are logged in.

[justus]

Smugmug rocks! These are perfect, funny, able to be personalized :ivar and plenty to choose from!

I am so happy!

[justus]

Now I'm a little confused. I went to upload a photo onto one of the new 5 x 7 cards, and it says my photo is too small to buy this item.....but I can get a 36 x 36 mounted canvas with the same photo?

Am I missing something? :scratch

[Ann McRae]

WooHoo! :barb

What is the timeline for blank templates? I am sooooo excited!

ann

[hyachts]

Just in time for the holidays

Not if you're married to my wife, it's not in time. *sigh* Next year...

They look great though.

[hyachts]

So I went through the exercise of building a card, and I'm confused. At the end of the tool I chose the Build It (just window shopping) option. The result looked very pretty, and I now see a static image of the card in my "My SmugMug Creations" gallery, but if I wanted to go ahead and buy that card at a later date...? I tried going through the "Buy" button but the options there are the same as for a photo. I even tried going back in to "Create A Card" from that image, but that only gave me the option to use the image of my card as an image in a card. While that is an interesting thought in its own right, it's not what I want.

Is the image of my card just there to remind me of the options I used so I can recreate it manually?

[Andy]

Now I'm a little confused. I went to upload a photo onto one of the new 5 x 7 cards, and it says my photo is too small to buy this item.....but I can get a 36 x 36 mounted canvas with the same photo?

Am I missing something? :scratchWe insist on a lot of pixels in the photos for the cards, these are the highest quality :thumb

[Andy]

So I went through the exercise of building a card, and I'm confused. At the end of the tool I chose the Build It (just window shopping) option. The result looked very pretty, and I now see a static image of the card in my "My SmugMug Creations" gallery, but if I wanted to go ahead and buy that card at a later date...? I tried going through the "Buy" button but the options there are the same as for a photo. I even tried going back in to "Create A Card" from that image, but that only gave me the option to use the image of my card as an image in a card. While that is an interesting thought in its own right, it's not what I want.

Is the image of my card just there to remind me of the options I used so I can recreate it manually?
you can buy it as a 5x7 card anytime from your gallery. Add it to your cart, choose "Cards" and go :)

[81dollar]

you guys are killing me... when can we expect to see Pro pricing? Or is the answer still "not in time for this holiday season"?

don't get me wrong, I certainly appreciate the addition of new products, but the pros need more than just new products- we need to be able to sell them easily to our customers as well...

[Andy]

you guys are killing me... when can we expect to see Pro pricing? Or is the answer still "not in time for this holiday season"?

don't get me wrong, I certainly appreciate the addition of new products, but the pros need more than just new products- we need to be able to sell them easily to our customers as well...
Not this holiday season. Sorry. It's pretty complicated and we'll get there with these but not straight away.

I'm really sorry.

[sbressler]

We've updated our Card Maker to include gorgeous 5x7 folded cards :clap

Just in time for the holidays, a ton of great designs to choose from.

See them all Here (http://cards.smugmug.com/5x7%20Folded%20Cards). Help (http://www.smugmug.com/help/photo-greeting-cards) & Info (http://www.smugmug.com/prints/5x7-folded-cards) :D

Keep checking back to the card maker, because there will be cards for Baby Announcements, Birthdays, Valentine's, Party Invitations, Mother's Day, and more :D There are even "blank" templates so you pros can put your own photo on the front, and your own message inside (e.g., "Thank You" ) :D

We'll have Release Notes (http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/) updated as soon as possible :deal

FAQS:

Q: I'm a pro, can I pro price these?
A: No, not at this time, sorry. Here's a neat trick though (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=76819)!

I submitted this to support, but I just wanted to mention it to the community: Can I suggest that you create Rosh Hashanah cards? They are far more popular than Chanukkah cards - in fact I've never heard of anyone sending a Chanukkah card. Granted people won't be sending Rosh Hashanah cards until next fall, but they make far more sense.

[Andy]

I submitted this to support, but I just wanted to mention it to the community: Can I suggest that you create Rosh Hashanah cards? They are far more popular than Chanukkah cards - in fact I've never heard of anyone sending a Chanukkah card. Granted people won't be sending Rosh Hashanah cards until next fall, but they make far more sense. Thanks we love input :thumb

[Competition Image]

We insist on 300DPI for the cards, these are the highest quality :thumb

Andy,

I read the thread above, but I still can't order a 5x7 folded card for my pic ("this photo is too small to buy this item"). Link is below -- it's 3648x2736 at 314dpi. I can order a 4x8 though. Might be a lack of understanding from a beginner :-(

Thanks in advance for any help, I really appreciate it and the new order options!

http://competition.smugmug.com/photos/409701221_s7vfq-XL-2.jpg

[Llywellyn]

These are so great! :barb I've been mulling over what to do for my Christmas cards this year. Problem solved! :D

I especially love the more graphic design–type cards (e.g., the reindeer "believe," "let it snow"). Simple and gorgeous. Kudos to the designers. :thumb

[devbobo]

Andy,

I read the thread above, but I still can't order a 5x7 folded card for my pic ("this photo is too small to buy this item"). Link is below -- it's 3648x2736 at 314dpi. I can order a 4x8 though. Might be a lack of understanding from a beginner :-(

Thanks in advance for any help, I really appreciate it and the new order options!

http://competition.smugmug.com/photos/409701221_s7vfq-XL-2.jpg

Since the card that is produce is printed on both sides, you need to either generate an image yourself to the required output specification or use the card editor (Buy->Create Card) to create one

[Emajination]

How would I determine what the DPI number is? When looking at the picture info, I don't see DPI as an option.

Thank you,

Since the card that is produce is printed on both sides, you need to either generate an image yourself to the required output specification or use the card editor (Buy->Create Card) to create one

[Competition Image]

Since the card that is produce is printed on both sides, you need to either generate an image yourself to the required output specification or use the card editor (Buy->Create Card) to create one

:clap Thanks devbobo! I'll have to play around with it, but that works great!

[Andy]

How would I determine what the DPI number is? When looking at the picture info, I don't see DPI as an option.

Thank you,
Forget DPI :D Just look at the min pixel dimensions I state in the FAQs in post 1 :deal

[caroline]

I don't have printing/shopping cart enabled on any of my galleries so I'm not seeing a buy button. I would like a buy button to show when I'm logged in, what is blocking this in my CSS please ?

Caroline

[JohnBiggs]

I don't have printing/shopping cart enabled on any of my galleries so I'm not seeing a buy button. I would like a buy button to show when I'm logged in, what is blocking this in my CSS please ?

Caroline

You may have to make a unlisted gallery with shopping enabled. Then jsut put your pictures in there.

[Andy]

I don't have printing/shopping cart enabled on any of my galleries so I'm not seeing a buy button. I would like a buy button to show when I'm logged in, what is blocking this in my CSS please ?

CarolineCaroline, printing must be enabled at the gallery customizing level, then you'll see the buy button :thumb

[GRBlizz]

I love this tool, and I have ordered a test-box of cards. One piece of input: on the Christmas Card style that says "Believe", you can't actually fill in the text box without having the text generate running into the text box below.

I don't know how to explain it better, but here is a generated card with that problem: http://sunnyshots.smugmug.com/gallery/6590990_8z7Ke#420856311_SQbBn

I did a workaround by using less text, but it would be nice to have it fixed.

One other suggestion - maybe add a couple of more religious Christmas themed cards - something with a star of Bethlehem, or He is Born, or something that reflects the reason for the season. I went with "believe", but even that is rather secular in graphic.

[caroline]

Caroline, printing must be enabled at the gallery customizing level, then you'll see the buy button :thumb

Ooooh, just tried it out, very nice, I'mm sure you will have lots of very happy customers :-)

[cmal]

After much struggle trying to figure out how to make a custom card I found Andy's template. I made my card with Photoshop, uploaded it, then orderd it right from the shopping cart. I'll let you know how it comes out when I receive it.
http://cynthiamalbon.smugmug.com/photos/421144381_KJvdq-M.jpg

Thanks Andy for all your help.:clap

[rainforest1155]

After much struggle trying to figure out how to make a custom card I found Andy's template. I made my card with Photoshop, uploaded it, then orderd it right from the shopping cart. I'll let you know how it comes out when I receive it.
Thanks Andy for all your help.:clap
Cynthia,

Very nice card design! Please have a look at the top left part of it. It looks as if you have accidentally mirrored the image. The text looks flipped (best Christmas wishes). If you've all ready placed the order, email us at our help desk and we'll see if we can still catch the order.

[cmal]

I see that, but I won't bother trying to correct it on this one, it's just a sample to check out the card quality. Thanks for pointing it out though, it would have been a disaster if I had placed the multiple order. I'm going to have to be more careful in the future. I'm somewhat dyxlexic and have a bad habit of making theses types of errors.

quote=rainforest1155]Cynthia,

Very nice card design! Please have a look at the top left part of it. It looks as if you have accidentally mirrored the image. The text looks flipped (best Christmas wishes). If you've all ready placed the order, email us at our help desk and we'll see if we can still catch the order.[/quote]

[cmal]

Still having a bit of trouble with the file size on the custom 5x7 folded cards in the card creator. This file for example: http://cynthiamalbon.smugmug.com/photos/421199452_ZUCnG-M-1.jpg

The size is 2804 x 3894, but it say's it too small. All my pictures seem to be too small even when they are well above what was specified.

[Andy]

Still having a bit of trouble with the file size on the custom 5x7 folded cards in the card creator. This file for example: http://cynthiamalbon.smugmug.com/photos/421199452_ZUCnG-M-1.jpg

The size is 2804 x 3894, but it say's it too small. All my pictures seem to be too small even when they are well above what was specified.
I can make any card with that photo:

http://img.skitch.com/20081120-eic4rf6bs2phmbfxwfussd5257.jpg

Can you try again? Thanks!

[cmal]

[quote=Andy]I can make any card with that photo:

I can make one with the templates but not a custom

[cmal]

I've discovered something weird. If I start with the custom option it doesn't work (says file is too small) If I start with the templates and then switch to the custom while working in the card creator it works.

[Andy]

I've discovered something weird. If I start with the custom option it doesn't work (says file is too small)

I started right away with the custom option
http://img.skitch.com/20081121-8p9xbxinf1dpm78aaajic1f9hd.jpg

can you close, reopen, and try again?

[cmal]

I closed, reopened and tried again but it still didn't work.

[Ann McRae]

I have a request: Can a text box be added onto the back page of the custom card? For our logos? Please?

ann

[Allen]

I have a request: Can a text box be added onto the back page of the custom card? For our logos? Please?

ann
Have you created a card? Download it and edit heck out of it then upload
keeping exactly the same size and DPI. At least it worked great with the
4x8. Here's one I did in PSPX for my sister last year.


http://www.photosbyat.com/photos/225551718_v7eEV-M.jpg

[Ann McRae]

Have you created a card? Download it and edit heck out of it then upload
keeping exactly the same size and DPI. At least it worked great with the
4x8. Here's one I did in PSPX for my sister last year.




Thanks, Alan. I could use the method of the poster a few above, and do it all in PS. However, the ability to use a template on photos already on smugmug without any further processing is REALLY appealing. I am hopeful that the sorcerers can add a text box or image box onto the back with little work.:thumb

ann

[Andy]

I have a request: Can a text box be added onto the back page of the custom card? For our logos? Please?

ann
We'll see, it's been asked by Markjay as well. I'm trying.

[Ann McRae]

We'll see, it's been asked by Markjay as well. I'm trying.


Thanks! :thumb

Love the cards.

[sweet caroline]

I'm having trouble designing some of the folded cards. There are two so far that have spots for more than one photo. They look fine when I click "create" and they when it says it's done. But then I go to the "my creations" gallery and the photos in those cards are only halfway in the hole and sometimes not even the photo I selected.

What's up?

Caroline

[Andy]

I'm having trouble designing some of the folded cards. There are two so far that have spots for more than one photo. They look fine when I click "create" and they when it says it's done. But then I go to the "my creations" gallery and the photos in those cards are only halfway in the hole and sometimes not even the photo I selected.

What's up?

CarolinePlease link us to your site so we can see the cards in your 'my SmugMug creations' gallery.

[Ryan Armbrust]

I am wanting to design my cards using photoshop, without one of the Smugmug templates. I know I can create a card with my image on the front, but can I also add my own image to the inside?

Thanks

[sweet caroline]

Please link us to your site so we can see the cards in your 'my SmugMug creations' gallery.

I finally got one version to work, but not with my first choice of photos. Here's the link: http://carolinepoe.smugmug.com/gallery/5974330_LaX6p#422385834_wQK88

Caroline

[Andy]

I finally got one version to work, but not with my first choice of photos. Here's the link: http://carolinepoe.smugmug.com/gallery/5974330_LaX6p#422385834_wQK88

Caroline
OKay... but if you want me to help you with the photos that were giving you troubles, I need to know specifically which ones, thanks!

[Andy]

Why not? Many of our templates are just like that. :D

[Ryan Armbrust]

Why not? Many of our templates are just like that. :D

Hey Andy,

Any word on whether we can upload an image for the front as well as the inside for the custom cards? (No template that is)

[Andy]

Hey Andy,

Any word on whether we can upload an image for the front as well as the inside for the custom cards? (No template that is)
Use the custom card :D It's already there. No image on the inside, yet, sorry.

[Nimai]

I'm playing with the 5x7 folded custom card, and I can get an image on the Outside Front, but when I try to drag an image onto the Outside Back, I get an [x] next the cursor, and it won't drop in. The size is fine. Am I supposed to be able to put different images on the front and back?

---edit---
Now I tried making a 5x7 image that would span both the front and back of the card. I can't get it to do that in the card-maker, though. The back is always white.
Here's the image I'm trying to use, and have it fold down the middle. Any ideas how to make it work? Thanks~

http://nimai.smugmug.com/photos/423351350_y7HgW-S-1.jpg

[Andy]

Specifically what card are you making, Nimai? And with what images?

[Nimai]

Specifically what card are you making, Nimai? And with what images? The family wants a folded card with the photo of the kids facing forward on the outside-front of the card, and facing back on the outside-back of the card. I just recently found your guide (http://cards.smugmug.com/photos/420530129_X4JqY-L.jpg) and tried making one like that, but it still seems to put the photo just on the front.
I put the combined photos at the end of my gallery here (http://nimai.smugmug.com/gallery/5870476_v2VLq#423781480_xtWKe).

[J Allen]

Just got done makin some cards, they were sent to a new unlisted gallery..AWESOME..I am now able to move these into some of my client galleries to show them the goodies..Job Well Done Smugmug Team! :super

[Andy]

The family wants a folded card with the photo of the kids facing forward on the outside-front of the card, and facing back on the outside-back of the card. I just recently found your guide (http://cards.smugmug.com/photos/420530129_X4JqY-L.jpg) and tried making one like that, but it still seems to put the photo just on the front.
I put the combined photos at the end of my gallery here (http://nimai.smugmug.com/gallery/5870476_v2VLq#423781480_xtWKe).

And what's wrong with this? http://nimai.smugmug.com/gallery/5870476_v2VLq#423781480_xtWKe

[Nimai]

I hate to be hogging this thread with what I'm sure is me just missing something...
How do I position that 4-up layout in the card editor? It shows up, but it doesn't fill it out. (This is hard to explain in words.) Here's how it shows up when I place it. If I resize it, the image is cropped to the outside-front:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1540/picture7gs6.gif

[cabbey]

I hate to be hogging this thread with what I'm sure is me just missing something...
How do I position that 4-up layout in the card editor? It shows up, but it doesn't fill it out. (This is hard to explain in words.) Here's how it shows up when I place it. If I resize it, the image is cropped to the outside-front:


Sorry Nimai, the custom card template is not designed for that... it's setup for one picture only, on the outside front. But you can do what you want very simply in Photoshop... just build the card without the back picture, then download the original size from your "My Cards" gallery after it's is designed and fill in the remaining 1/4 of the image with the photo for the back.

[Nimai]

Sorry Nimai, the custom card template is not designed for that... it's setup for one picture only, on the outside front. But you can do what you want very simply in Photoshop... just build the card without the back picture, then download the original size from your "My Cards" gallery after it's is designed and fill in the remaining 1/4 of the image with the photo for the back.OK. I assumed too much. I first thought I could use a photo on the outside-back too. Then I thought I needed to make a large composite of the front and back images for use with the card-creator.
Now I see that the card creator is just an online too to create the composite image that gets stored in the My SmugMug Creations -> Cards gallery.
Sorry for the confusion!
Heck, I'll just go to town in photoshop, then! Now it all makes sense. I can see the card creator being useful when it is developed into a customer facing tool. Can't wait!
Thank you.

[mogulmouse]

[quote=Andy]We've updated our Card Maker to include gorgeous 5x7...

Love the cards.

Is it possible to change the fonts in the customizable text boxes?

-Dan

[Andy]

[quote=Andy]We've updated our Card Maker to include gorgeous 5x7...

Love the cards.

Is it possible to change the fonts in the customizable text boxes?

-DanHi Dan, :wave Welcome!

No, I'm sorry it's not :(

[Ann McRae]

I've been making cards all evening. I keep having an issue: the text "custom text here" shows up on my templates, even if I click on it. My intent is to have that as blank space. Will that print, or is this an anomaly that won't show on the printed product? I've remade the same cards to try to eliminate this but not had any success.
Gallery:http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/gallery/3910503_bUoe9#424680289_2HLsn

ann

[Allen]

I've been making cards all evening. I keep having an issue: the text "custom text here" shows up on my templates, even if I click on it. My intent is to have that as blank space. Will that print, or is this an anomaly that won't show on the printed product? I've remade the same cards to try to eliminate this but not had any success.
Gallery:http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/gallery/3910503_bUoe9#424680289_2HLsn

ann
Did you try adding a space in that text box?

[Ann McRae]

Did you try adding a space in that text box?


Yes

[Andy]

Yes
Anne, we'll fix that! Sorry :( Stay tuned.

[rdlugosz]

Q: Can I make a custom card of my own design?
A: You bet! For each side, Specs are, 2000 pixels by 2800 pixels, and here's a visual aid to help (http://cards.smugmug.com/photos/420530129_X4JqY-L.jpg). Once you upload your custom design, you can order it as a 5x7 folded card if you are logged in.

Andy - According to the release notes (http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/11/19/5x7-folded-cards/), cards should be created with a template that is a *total* of 4000x2800. Should your comment in the FAQ here read as "for each side, specs are 2000 by 1400"?

Also, how much bleed should be expected with printing? Should we assume an 1/8th of an inch around the sides to be not text-safe?

Just trying to figure out the specs... I'd like to sell some holiday cards & want to have a good shot at getting them right the first time, for obvious reasons. :)

[Andy]

Andy - According to the release notes (http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/11/19/5x7-folded-cards/), cards should be created with a template that is a *total* of 4000x2800. Should your comment in the FAQ here read as "for each side, specs are 2000 by 1400"?

Also, how much bleed should be expected with printing? Should we assume an 1/8th of an inch around the sides to be not text-safe?

Just trying to figure out the specs... I'd like to sell some holiday cards & want to have a good shot at getting them right the first time, for obvious reasons. :)
Yes, and yes on the bleed, esp text.

[PaulN]

Yes, and yes on the bleed, esp text.


Given the bleed, can you comment on the usable pixel area? If each side of the card is 2000x1400, what is the actual printable area? If I'm going to loose 1/8" around each side, should I throw in a 10 or 20 pixel border, knowing that it won't be printed?

I'm throwing together a template in CS3 for a card, and have a 2800x4000 pixel file @ 300 pixels/inch. The "canvas" size is 9.33 x 13.33. Shouldn't this be 10x14, given the dimensions of the card?


Sorry to be so particular; I'm putting together a collage for the face of the card and if I loose 1/8" I might loose an ear or shoulder which will throw the pictures off balance. Otherwise, I wouldn't care.

Thanks,
-Paul

[Andy]

Given the bleed,
Bleed trim help: http://www.smugmug.com/help/bleed-trim

Is this helpful?

[jfriend]

Given the bleed, can you comment on the usable pixel area? If each side of the card is 2000x1400, what is the actual printable area? If I'm going to loose 1/8" around each side, should I throw in a 10 or 20 pixel border, knowing that it won't be printed?

I'm throwing together a template in CS3 for a card, and have a 2800x4000 pixel file @ 300 pixels/inch. The "canvas" size is 9.33 x 13.33. Shouldn't this be 10x14, given the dimensions of the card?


Sorry to be so particular; I'm putting together a collage for the face of the card and if I loose 1/8" I might loose an ear or shoulder which will throw the pictures off balance. Otherwise, I wouldn't care.

Thanks,
-Paul

You can't throw in a border to deal with the bleed. The issue with bleed is that the paper is typically printed slightly oversize, then cut to the finished dimensions. That's how they get print all the way to the edge. The reason for the bleed area is that the alignment of the paper in the printer and the cutter when trimming has some tolerance to it. So, they print a little extra on the edges, then trim it off and, while you lose a little around the outside of your image, you get printing all the way to the edge.

If you try to put a white border around it, there is no guarantee that none of the border will be visible and if some is left visible, even less guarantee that the cut edge will be exactly parallel to your white border.

So the bleed is the amount of "tolerance" that the printer is asking for in order to guarantee that they give you printing all the way to the edge. They will use some of it, maybe not all of it. There is no way around it other than printing yourself or working one-on-one with a printer that does custom jobs with custom instructions (and probably charges accordingly).

[PaulN]

Bleed trim help: http://www.smugmug.com/help/bleed-trim

Is this helpful?

I think so. I'm rethinking the design of the card (its similar to the montage in the example). I may just do the canvas size trick and add 38 pixels. Or should I move everything in 38 pixels and use 2800x4000 as hard stop?

Thanks,
-Paul

[Andy]

Or should I move everything in 38 pixels and use 2800x4000 as hard stop?

Thanks,
-Paul:nod

[PaulN]

:nod

Thanks, Andy.

Am I correct in thinking that this is really a 10x7 that is printed on both sides and then folded in half? If so, it is really 40 pixels (I rounded up) on the three sides of each face of the card. For the front of the card, it is 40 pixels in from the top, 40 pixels in from the bottom, and 40 pixels in from the right edge.

Hrmm; then you have the fold. Full-bleed printing is really ideal, but in reality, it is a pain trying to account for accurate trimming and the fold. I have no problems aligning front/back images in Photoshop down to the pixel, but if the trim is off and the fold isn't exact, you will have either part of the front image bleeding onto the back of the card or vice versa. I could go with a white border like I did last year, but full-bleed is calling out to me.

I guess this is why they call it the bleeding edge ;)

-Paul

[Andy]

Thanks, Andy.

Am I correct in thinking that this is really a 10x7 that is printed on both sides and then folded in half?

No, it is split into two files by us at the lab :) Make a draft and show it to me I'll validate it before printing.

[rdlugosz]

Here's the first shot at a card I whipped up... thoughts? (X3 Size (http://gallery.rrdphoto.com/photos/425312463_pvMgy-X3-1.jpg))
http://gallery.rrdphoto.com/photos/425312463_pvMgy-L-1.jpg


Also, here are some Generic Photoshop Templates I put together for the 5x7 cards... Please let me know if there are any issues. Note that it has guides built in - if you don't see them, click on View|Extras in Photoshop. AND - remember that those guides along the outside are a safety zone ONLY! Don't look at them to center things or you'll be a 16th off... CTRL+H will toggle your guides on and off.
http://rrdphoto.com/files/SM5x7templates-rrdphoto.zip

PaulN: The reason your math isn't working is because you're assuming 300DPI. Use 285 and you'll see numbers very close to 10x14. (Bottom line is to go with 4000x2800 and forget about DPI altogether! Only reason I calculated it was so that I could have my rulers show correct inches in Photoshop as a sanity check.)

[Andy]

Ryan print 1 or two, quantity 1, and let me know how they look :thumb I think they'll be great.

[rdlugosz]

Ryan print 1 or two, quantity 1, and let me know how they look :thumb I think they'll be great.

will do, thx!

[Ann McRae]

Here's the first shot at a card I whipped up... thoughts?
[B]
Also, here are some Generic Photoshop Templates I put together for the 5x7 cards...


Ryan- beautiful card, and thanks for putting templates together! Very generous of you.

ann

[Ann McRae]

So, here (http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/gallery/3910503_bUoe9#427683203_6pp8Q) are the 5x7 cards I have made so far using Ryan's templates.

I am liking this alot, and can see refining my logo and other information with time. Just want some for this Christmas, and some for thank you notes for my business and my husbands.

ann

[GRBlizz]

Will you be adding an option for a matte or lustre finish?

I am not a fan of the glossy finish, especially since I chose a design with the photo on the inside. The glossy finish is too easy to smudge while signing, and I'm having a hard time getting the cards to remain "tented" on the tabletop once opened.

Note for those considering inside photos - the paper has far less coating, which makes the pictures look more like a photocopy than a photograph. (Can you tell I am redoing my card to have the main image on the front?)

[Gir]

I love the cards and I can't wait to send out ours for the holidays. I've had a request for graduation announcements with pictures on the front and both inside panels. If possible, could these kind of custom choices (pictures in more places) be added? [similar to the mycanvas book making].

--
Hanyok Photography

[Ann McRae]

I love the cards and I can't wait to send out ours for the holidays. I've had a request for graduation announcements with pictures on the front and both inside panels. If possible, could these kind of custom choices (pictures in more places) be added? [similar to the mycanvas book making].

--
Hanyok Photography

You can do this now by totally customizing your card. See posts above by Ryan - he has made a template to use as well.

ann

[PaulN]

My batch of 75 cards came a few days ago and I'm really happy with the quality. I've gone with MPIX for the past two years and was never quite happy with the print quality, but I couldn't find another shop that offered the same level of customization until the new offering from SmugMug.

The print quality is nice; not as good as the standard Lustre prints, but I'm really happy with the quality. I can see/feel the difference with the coating on the inside of the paper; I would be hesitant in ordering cards with photos on the inside. YMMV though, so you should try a test print first.

Unlike MPIX which ships the cards flat and you have to fold them, SmugMug ships them in a nice black box and the cards are pre-folded. If I were selling cards to customers, I would be very, very, happy with the presentation. Well done, SmugMug. Nice quality prints, nice presentation. Very professional. Your [SmugMug] professional clients will be thanking you for this.

One thing that caught me off guard though, is a small barcode on the back of the card (lower left corner) and a small number in the lower right of the card. I imagine they coincide with the print order number. Not a show stopper by any means, but when you are designing the card, you may want to keep this in mind. I had a photo montage on the back of my card and the barcode ate into the image. Haha, who knows, if retail shops can enter the barcode into their PoS system, this could be seen as an advantage ;)
Not a big issue, but I was surprised to see it.

One other note, I put together my card in Photoshop and I asked Andy if I should print true color or auto-color. Any said to go with true color. I wasn't sure if that is because my pictures are all properly post-processed on a calibrated system, or if it is because my card template contained true-white which might have thrown off the 'auto' color correction algorithm. Or, perhaps it is a combination of the two.

For those building their own templates, it might be valuable to know how auto color correction could impact the printing (if at all).

Overall, I am very, very happy with the cards. The quality is high enough that I would consider selling cards to clients and I am definitely going to be ordering all of my holiday cards from SmugMug in the future.

Good job guys and thanks for all of the template help!

-Paul

[Elaine]

I'm trying to determine if I should order one of each, auto and true, as a test, or just bite the bullet and order true color. I do have a calibrated monitor. This is the image for the front of my card. Any thoughts?

http://e-heasley.smugmug.com/photos/431433266_XW7FZ-L.jpg

[farbodr]

I made a folded card last night and saved it to my gallery so I can show it to my wife. Now I want to make a minor change to it and order it. I don't see anyway to do that or it's just not very obvious to me.

Do I need to go back and recreate it???

Thx,

Fred R.

[Andy]

I made a folded card last night and saved it to my gallery so I can show it to my wife. Now I want to make a minor change to it and order it. I don't see anyway to do that or it's just not very obvious to me.

Do I need to go back and recreate it???

Thx,

Fred R.Yes, you'll need to make it anew, sorry!

[Andy]

I'm trying to determine if I should order one of each, auto and true, as a test, or just bite the bullet and order true color. I do have a calibrated monitor. This is the image for the front of my card. Any thoughts?

http://e-heasley.smugmug.com/photos/431433266_XW7FZ-L.jpg
True for that will be fine.

[just4fun]

I was playing around and working on a card last night, but didn't have time to finish up.

I came back today to start over, but I have no photos tab.

I can select which template I want to use, but can't put any photos in it?

Any suggestions? Have I done something wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Sara

[just4fun]

Never mind - it is back.
:dunno
I'm not sure what I did differently, but I've tried about 10 times - logged out, logged back in etc... and couldn't get a photos tab to come up.

It is there now though.

Thanks! I'm excited about creating my card.

Sara


I was playing around and working on a card last night, but didn't have time to finish up.

I came back today to start over, but I have no photos tab.

I can select which template I want to use, but can't put any photos in it?

Any suggestions? Have I done something wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Sara

[Ann McRae]

How long is print time for cards? 2, 3, 5 days?

ann

[RKnecht]

OK, I have a question. Why does it say that my photo is too small for a 5x7" folded cards when it is a HUGE 6+MB file? It will allow me to print a 20x30" picture, but not a 5x7" card. For the 4x8's it's fine though. ANy ideas?

[Andy]

Hello.

Megabytes have nothing to do with resolution. Resolution is file dimensions. And our cards, require 2000 by 2000 pixels minimum on each side of your photo. Some photo spots will allow smaller photos.

Remember, our print minimums are MINIMUMS and we do recommend the full files - don't resize! :D

[RKnecht]

Hello.

Megabytes have nothing to do with resolution. Resolution is file dimensions. And our cards, require 2000 by 2000 pixels minimum on each side of your photo. Some photo spots will allow smaller photos.

Remember, our print minimums are MINIMUMS and we do recommend the full files - don't resize! :D

I understand that. That is why I posted my question. The picture measures 3920 x 2666. Any other ideas? I figured that a full resolution jpeg from a D3 would be just fine. I'm a bit confused. BTW, thanks for moving the post to the correct location :)

I just looked at another image that was "too small" for the 5x7 card. That image is 4007 x 2666.

[Andy]

I understand that. That is why I posted my question. The picture measures 3920 x 2666. Any other ideas? I figured that a full resolution jpeg from a D3 would be just fine. I'm a bit confused. BTW, thanks for moving the post to the correct location :)

I just looked at another image that was "too small" for the 5x7 card. That image is 4007 x 2666.
I need the image link and also which card you are trying to make, thanks!

[RKnecht]

I need the image link and also which card you are trying to make, thanks!

Here is a link to one of them:

http://www.richknechtphotography.com/gallery/5619611_v9KK3#423213630_F9rUK-O-LB

The reason why I am doing this is that I am going to a client's home to do a picture for their Holiday card, and I wanted to make sure I knew how to do it :) I was just trying to make a 5x7 folded card. As I said, it seems fine for the 4 x 8 card.

Thanks Andy.

[RKnecht]

BTW, this is the standard 5x7 folded card. Not the new holiday cards. Is there a difference?

[Andy]

BTW, this is the standard 5x7 folded card.

Not sure what this means?

[RKnecht]

Not sure what this means?

If you go to "Buy Photo", they are the cards at the bottom of the list. Currently I do not have them listed for sale though. I may just use the card designs that smugmug has provided rather than create my own. i was just trying to get "fancy" .

[Elaine]

Just got my two boxes of 5x7 cards today! The packaging is great...pre-folded and in nice black boxes. :thumb I printed "true" for the first time and they look fine. I wasn't expecting the super-glossy, but it looks quite nice. Thank you, Smug!

[padge206]

We've updated our Card Maker to include gorgeous 5x7 folded cards :clap


Just in time for the holidays, a ton of great designs to choose from.
...

i've created 2 cards. (well, actually, my wife did) but
now i can't see them in the "My Smugmug Creations" gallery?

http://wishboxstudios.smugmug.com/gallery/6790766_sGdFb

something i did?

[padge206]

i've created 2 cards. (well, actually, my wife did) but
now i can't see them in the "My Smugmug Creations" gallery?

http://wishboxstudios.smugmug.com/gallery/6790766_sGdFb

something i did?

now they are showing up in the gallery, but not as they were built.
and no option to buy them as a card? i was hoping to order these today! :dunno

[Elaine]

now they are showing up in the gallery, but not as they were built.
and no option to buy them as a card? i was hoping to order these today! :dunno

What does "not as they were built" mean? They do show up looking a bit strange...the front will be upside down. Just picture it being printed on both sides of the cardstock, just as it's shown. :D

Then you need to click "Buy>This Photo" and go to Photo Cards. The 5x7 options will be there.

[padge206]

What does "not as they were built" mean? They do show up looking a bit strange...the front will be upside down. Just picture it being printed on both sides of the cardstock, just as it's shown. :D

Then you need to click "Buy>This Photo" and go to Photo Cards. The 5x7 options will be there.


if you look at the link i posted above, the pictures that were inserted aren't right.
actually, this one specifically:
http://wishboxstudios.smugmug.com/gallery/6790766_sGdFb#435035633_5xMpX-XL-LB

the first image is all black. 3rd + 4th are off center.

but thanks for pointing me in the right direction for purchasing! :thumb

[jiri]

I had the same issue on Friday. Andy confirmed this was a bug and recommended to try it again over weekend, I tried yesterday morning and everything was fixed (Andy is always right). :D

I got an email from SmugMug few minutes ago (Sunday) that the cards were shipped !!! :bow

[Cindy]

I'm wanting to order some invitations (that will need to be filled out). Can the inside of the 5x7's be written on with regular ink pens?

Thanks so much,

[Ann McRae]

I'm wanting to order some invitations (that will need to be filled out). Can the inside of the 5x7's be written on with regular ink pens?

Thanks so much,

Mine arrived today, and I feel qualified to answer now...the answer is yes, the inside is just like a standard greeting card.

ann

[Cindy]

Mine arrived today, and I feel qualified to answer now...the answer is yes, the inside is just like a standard greeting card.

ann

Thanks so much Ann. Are you happy with the quality?

[thayes01]

What methods do Pros use to gather all the inputs necessary to place a card order for a Customer, web form, email...?

Is there a specification for Smug Mug cards (4x8, 5x7) that indicates how many characters of text can be input for each individual card?

[jiri]

I ordered mine on Saturday and they arrived on Tuesday :bow

And let me tell you, they look amazing !! These are really PRO looking cards. I'm usually picky, this time I'm just speechless.

btw I really do like the option to order one single card (although I ordered 25 for Christmas), I cannot wait for order one card every time my friend has a birthday. :barb


thanks a lot for really awesome job !!

[Ann McRae]

Thanks so much Ann. Are you happy with the quality?


Yes, mostly I am. The quality of the images, and of the product itself, is perfect.

I did completely custom cards, and on two of my designs i have 'bleed' issues i.e edge of design not meeting edge of print. I think this is a 'detail' to overcome on my end.
Something else to be aware of (another 'detail') is that a bar code prints on the back of the card - minor detail, but important if you do total custom and put a photo or logo on the back. Need to know it is there, and pan accordingly.

ann

[krhphotos]

So... I looked but didn't see this question anywhere so maybe it's just me and my computer(s) but I have been trying to make these cards for 3 days, and when I hit Build Card it recycles and recycles and recycles... I left it overnight, and it was still recycling in the morning. I've started this over a few times now... Does it usually take this long or is there something up with my system(s)? :scratch

[Andy]

So... I looked but didn't see this question anywhere so maybe it's just me and my computer(s) but I have been trying to make these cards for 3 days, and when I hit Build Card it recycles and recycles and recycles... I left it overnight, and it was still recycling in the morning. I've started this over a few times now... Does it usually take this long or is there something up with my system(s)? :scratchShouldn't take that long, no.... what browser are you using and what site are you using to make your card?

[krhphotos]

Shouldn't take that long, no.... what browser are you using and what site are you using to make your card?

I'm using IE7,

http://krhphotos.smugmug.com/photos/tools.mg?ImageID=400444838&Type=Album&tool=newcard&ImageKey=jLKU2

Tried again this morning, and it's still recycling...

[micknewton]

I just received my order of 5x7 cards and I must say that I am very impressed! The cards are great! Even better than I had hoped.

Thanks smug people! :barb

[eoren1]

Andy-
These cards are a great idea and I LOVE the option to order 1, 10 or 25 (I had been using WHCC and their minimum order is 25)! This is a perfect year-end staff gift (a set of 5 cards for each doctor and nurse in our practice):clap
However, I am having problems adding a copyright on the back. I am able to add custom text on the back of the portrait-oriented 5x7 folding card but not the landscape one. Also, there is no way to add the copyright symbol that I can see. I tried making a 5x7 JPG in CS4 with just a copyright statement that would sit on the bottom of the card but it seems that a photo cannot be added to the back. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
E

[thayes01]

Ann, assuming yours was a typical card order, what quantity and type of card (4x8, 5x7) did you order and how long did it take until they arrived? I'm trying to set expectations of delivery time for a customer asking for cards. Thanks! Ted

Yes, mostly I am. The quality of the images, and of the product itself, is perfect.

I did completely custom cards, and on two of my designs i have 'bleed' issues i.e edge of design not meeting edge of print. I think this is a 'detail' to overcome on my end.
Something else to be aware of (another 'detail') is that a bar code prints on the back of the card - minor detail, but important if you do total custom and put a photo or logo on the back. Need to know it is there, and pan accordingly.

ann

[Andy]

Ann, assuming yours was a typical card order, what quantity and type of card (4x8, 5x7) did you order and how long did it take until they arrived? I'm trying to set expectations of delivery time for a customer asking for cards. Thanks! Ted
My personal cards I ordered Sunday, they were printed Monday and fedexed to me on Tuesday.

[Andy]

Andy-
These cards are a great idea and I LOVE the option to order 1, 10 or 25 (I had been using WHCC and their minimum order is 25)! This is a perfect year-end staff gift (a set of 5 cards for each doctor and nurse in our practice):clap
However, I am having problems adding a copyright on the back. I am able to add custom text on the back of the portrait-oriented 5x7 folding card but not the landscape one. Also, there is no way to add the copyright symbol that I can see. I tried making a 5x7 JPG in CS4 with just a copyright statement that would sit on the bottom of the card but it seems that a photo cannot be added to the back. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
EWe don't have it on that card, I'm sorry :(

[eoren1]

Thanks anyway...just wanted to see if I was missing something obvious. I'll go ahead and order them up.
E

[Ann McRae]

Ann, assuming yours was a typical card order, what quantity and type of card (4x8, 5x7) did you order and how long did it take until they arrived? I'm trying to set expectations of delivery time for a customer asking for cards. Thanks! Ted

Well, I am in Canada, so I am atypical!

But I chose the middle international shipping choice(not mail, but not expedited) and they delivery took 2 days, tracked, and without any brokerage fees - so I was pleased!

ann

[Gramps]

I have read all 12 pages and I am still confused. First off, I think the resolution size for a 5x7 picture is nuts but whatever, I guess I don't have the whole picture.

When I read "5x7 folded Cards" I imagined a 10x7 piece of paper folded in half. (talking strictly custom cards here) But I am seeing 4 quadrants, so that is folded in half twice where the final result is 5x3.5? Or is the final a 5x7 and the original paper 10x14?

[jfriend]

I have read all 12 pages and I am still confused. First off, I think the resolution size for a 5x7 picture is nuts but whatever, I guess I don't have the whole picture.

When I read "5x7 folded Cards" I imagined a 10x7 piece of paper folded in half. (talking strictly custom cards here) But I am seeing 4 quadrants, so that is folded in half twice where the final result is 5x3.5? Or is the final a 5x7 and the original paper 10x14?

Could it be 10 x 7 folded in half and then letting you print on both sides of the paper (inside and outside of the card), giving a total of four sides?

[Elaine]

Could it be 10 x 7 folded in half and then letting you print on both sides of the paper (inside and outside of the card), giving a total of four sides?

Yep! It is definitely a 5x7 card.

[Gramps]

I see now. My wife is a stamper and has been making cards for years. So I am familiar with the 4 quadrant double fold thing.

[rgkids]

I would be so appreciative if someone could let me know if this:

http://www.rgkidsphotography.com/Photography/Valentine/10365166_tgYc4

is going to be a 5x7 folded greeting card if I simply order it as a 5x7 Folded Card w/ Env?

Thanks.:dunno

[Andy]

I would be so appreciative if someone could let me know if this:

http://www.rgkidsphotography.com/Photography/Valentine/10365166_tgYc4

is going to be a 5x7 folded greeting card if I simply order it as a 5x7 Folded Card w/ Env?

Thanks.:dunno Yes :)

[rgkids]

Yes :)

thanks Andy. So, it's set up correctly, right? Sorry, I just want to make sure before I order.

[Andy]

thanks Andy. So, it's set up correctly, right? Sorry, I just want to make sure before I order.
You can double check it here:
http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Make+your+own+photo+cards

[juledur]

I've made several 5x7 cards from my photos, and they are all currently in "My SmugMug Creations". When I select one, I can't figure out how to purchase it as a card. I've gone to "Buy Photo" and "Create a card". Am I missing something?

I'd like to set this up so that my customers can purchase a ready-made holiday card with my photo on the front and blank inside.

[Ann McRae]

I've made several 5x7 cards from my photos, and they are all currently in "My SmugMug Creations". When I select one, I can't figure out how to purchase it as a card. I've gone to "Buy Photo" and "Create a card". Am I missing something?

I'd like to set this up so that my customers can purchase a ready-made holiday card with my photo on the front and blank inside.

If your cards have been created, and your gallery is set to print with EZPrints then you as owner can buy them from the cart just like a regular photo - they will appear on the print tab of the shopping cart.

If you want to make them available to be bought by your customers, then set the gallery to print at EZP and set your prices for cards - bottom of the print tab.

Once created and priced, the cards will appear for sale to customers, also on the prints tab of the cart, when the gallery is set to print at EZPrints.

ann

[juledur]

Can I move them to a gallery other than "My SmugMug Creations"? I have set up a Christmas card gallery already, but these cards aren't in it yet.

One more thing, since I only want these printed as cards, is there a short cut for eliminating all the other product choices at purchase time?

[Lerxst101]

Hi,

Trying to build our holiday card, but I seem to be in an endless loop. Tried last night, went to bed, and awakened to it still "building." Attempted to redo this morning, and we are now on at least 4 hours. Placing one photo on cover and one on each of inside of card. At least two photos are 5MB+. Is that the problem?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

[Sheaf]

Hi,

Trying to build our holiday card, but I seem to be in an endless loop. Tried last night, went to bed, and awakened to it still "building." Attempted to redo this morning, and we are now on at least 4 hours. Placing one photo on cover and one on each of inside of card. At least two photos are 5MB+. Is that the problem?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

Hi Tom,

Sorry you're having problems. The photo size shouldn't be a problem. Can you tell me which card design you were attempting to use? http://cards.smugmug.com/

[Sheaf]

Can I move them to a gallery other than "My SmugMug Creations"? I have set up a Christmas card gallery already, but these cards aren't in it yet.

One more thing, since I only want these printed as cards, is there a short cut for eliminating all the other product choices at purchase time?

Yes and yes. We just put them by default in the Creations gallery, but you can use the photo tools inside that gallery to move them to any other.

My suggestion would be to set prices at the gallery level in your Christmas card gallery and put zero's for every product except the cards. Your customers won't see any other purchasing options.

[Lerxst101]

Hi Tom,

Sorry you're having problems. The photo size shouldn't be a problem. Can you tell me which card design you were attempting to use? http://cards.smugmug.com/

Thanks for getting back to me. 5x7 folded cards > Winter Holiday > Card #8 (Peace, Love, Joy -- vertical card, one photo on front, one on each side of inside, green strip beneath inside "From our family to yours..."

I was able to create one as a test. But after creating the "final version," when we went to order the card (225 of them), it hangs in the "Building your card (this can take a while)" stage.

Any help would be appreciated.

Tom

[Sheaf]

Hmm, I was just able to use that design successfully a couple of times. What browser are you using?

I will keep trying to figure out what the problem is, but I hate to make you wait for a bug fix.

If you email the help desk with ATTN: Sheaf and give me direct links to the photos you want to use and their order on the card, I can make it for you. Alternatively, you could try again. The building process really shouldn't take longer than 10 or 15 minutes maximum (it generally only takes a couple of minutes). So if after 15 minutes it still is going, it's probably broken.

[Lerxst101]

Hmm, I was just able to use that design successfully a couple of times. What browser are you using?

I will keep trying to figure out what the problem is, but I hate to make you wait for a bug fix.

If you email the help desk with ATTN: Sheaf and give me direct links to the photos you want to use and their order on the card, I can make it for you. Alternatively, you could try again. The building process really shouldn't take longer than 10 or 15 minutes maximum (it generally only takes a couple of minutes). So if after 15 minutes it still is going, it's probably broken.

Thanks so much! Help desk originally suggested updating Flash, try Firefox instead of Safari, and try another card. It was odd, because I successfully created same card with different photos only hours before. By the way, I did update Flash and tried to build using Firefox. Once again, I was able to create the card, but when I went to order, that is where it hangs.

[Sheaf]

Thanks so much! Help desk originally suggested updating Flash, try Firefox instead of Safari, and try another card. It was odd, because I successfully created same card with different photos only hours before. By the way, I did update Flash and tried to build using Firefox. Once again, I was able to create the card, but when I went to order, that is where it hangs.

When you went to order it? Through the card creator or from your gallery? If it was through the card creator, you should be able to just order it from your gallery like any other photo as long as it was indeed created correctly.

[juledur]

Yes and yes. We just put them by default in the Creations gallery, but you can use the photo tools inside that gallery to move them to any other.

My suggestion would be to set prices at the gallery level in your Christmas card gallery and put zero's for every product except the cards. Your customers won't see any other purchasing options.

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

[papajay]

I know, I know...others have been confused and asked this question...but even after scrolling through this 14 page thread looking for a definitive answer, the replies to the same question asked by others provide hints to the answer, but fall short of being definitive.

I just ordered a 5x7 card (landscape layout). Is the final product made from a single sheet of photo paper measuring 7 inches by 10 inch folded in half (10/2=5) to create the 2 "inside" and 2 "outside" pages of the care? A yes or no reply would be appreciated ('cuz if it's "no", I need to pull back my order).

I'm sure it's "obvious" to the designers and to people in the printing business, but the visual in the help screens shows a cut and two folds, which caused me to panic a bit.

Thanks.

[Andy]

I know, I know...others have been confused and asked this question...but even after scrolling through this 14 page thread looking for a definitive answer, the replies to the same question asked by others provide hints to the answer, but fall short of being definitive.

I just ordered a 5x7 card (landscape layout). Is the final product made from a single sheet of photo paper measuring 7 inches by 10 inch folded in half (10/2=5) to create the 2 "inside" and 2 "outside" pages of the care? A yes or no reply would be appreciated ('cuz if it's "no", I need to pull back my order).

I'm sure it's "obvious" to the designers and to people in the printing business, but the visual in the help screens shows a cut and two folds, which caused me to panic a bit.

Thanks.Papajay, Yes. They're 5x7 in size, when folded.

[Eia]

I created a card using the template rather than Smug's template so it is ready. But, when I try to buy the card where do I go? Do I use 'buy this photo?' or 'Create a card'? I don't see an option for cards under 'buy this photo'. :scratch

[gluwater]

I created a card using the template rather than Smug's template so it is ready. But, when I try to buy the card where do I go? Do I use 'buy this photo?' or 'Create a card'? I don't see an option for cards under 'buy this photo'. :scratch
Hi Eia, There's currently a bug that isn't allowing you to order cards once they are saved out of the Card Creator. So that would also apply to custom made cards. We're aware of the problem and will hopefully have a fix for it soon. Sorry but for now the only way to purchase cards is in the Card Creator.

[Eia]

Hi Eia, There's currently a bug that isn't allowing you to order cards once they are saved out of the Card Creator. So that would also apply to custom made cards. We're aware of the problem and will hopefully have a fix for it soon. Sorry but for now the only way to purchase cards is in the Card Creator.

Hmmm...hope it is fixed well before Christmas...thanks much!

[docwalker]

Eia, I think the bug that Nick was thinking of has been fixed. Once a card ha been created you need to go to the My SmugMug Creations gallery or where ever the card resides currently. If you are a Pro make sure that the pricing for the gallery is set to EZprints. Click the buy button, this photo, click the option for photo cards. You can then add the card to the cart.

[wendyf209]

If you are a pro and selling these cards, do they come with any kind of branding on them???

[Ann McRae]

If you are a pro and selling these cards, do they come with any kind of branding on them???


Hi

Cards made from a Pro account do not have any branding on the back. If you have a Power or Standard account, the cards do have a discreet SmugMug logo on the back.

If, as a Pro, you wish to add your logo to the cards, then you will need to make custom cards. There is information on doing this on our wiki, here:

http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Make+your+own+photo+cards

The key points to making your own cards are to be sure to use the exact pixel dimensions that we show on that page, and to get the orientation of the card graphic right when you upload it.

Let us know if you have any other questions about this.

ann

[Bird Lady]

Eia, I think the bug that Nick was thinking of has been fixed. Once a card ha been created you need to go to the My SmugMug Creations gallery or where ever the card resides currently. If you are a Pro make sure that the pricing for the gallery is set to EZprints. Click the buy button, this photo, click the option for photo cards. You can then add the card to the cart.

Two related problems about 5x7 cards:

1. I just "built" my first Pro 5x7 greeting card and have it in an unlisted SmugMug Creations gallery. I set up the pricing according to directions: Bay for prints and EZ for merchandise and the cards.
When in Owner View, if I try to buy the card through the unlisted gallery (that shows the card's layout), a Card tab is on the pricing page, and all works well.
BUT when I am in Visitor View OR Owner View in the public gallery showing the card's actual photo, the card tab on the Buy>pricing page doesn't exist.

2. Related to that, and confusing to me and new customers:
I DON'T want all my photos used as cards, so I've priced some cards by Imaging pricing, and the card option disappeared. BUT for the photos that I would like to have have available as cards, I don't want anyone using or seeing the "create a card" option the Buy button offers. How can I disable that? I only want people to order my blank greeting cards as they appear in the unlisted SmugMug Creations gallery, not to have other options to confuse them.

Thanks!

[Wendee]

Hi Susan :)

1. The option to purchase a 5x7 folded card will only be available for the created card files. You cannot purchase a folded card from the original photo in the public gallery.

We only let you purchase cards of files that match the needed dimensions exactly. That means an image has to be 2800x4000 or 4000x2800, see here, at the bottom:
http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Make+your+own+photo+cards

And if your image is just a regular photo, not a create card with the four quadrants, some of them upside down, the photo would be cropped into four sections on the card. That's why we don't give you the option to purchase the card from the regular image, it has to be the created card file.

And you don't want to rotate the card file in your gallery, or else it will be printed inside out.
http://www.smugmug.com/help/photo-greeting-cards



2. If you only want people to be able to purchase from your created cards, and not make any cards of their own, you will need to let them see those cards. You could make you own public cards gallery and make copies of the created cards, or collect the cards into a public gallery. However you want to arrange it to have a place for viewers to purchase the cards you've created. You can have that gallery set to EZ Prints and have cards priced, and have everything else set to zero so only cards can be purchased from the card images.

Then you don't have to have cards priced anywhere else, so that viewers won't see the option to create a card.


I hope that helps. :)

Wendee
Support Hero

[Bird Lady]

Hi Susan :)

1. The option to purchase a 5x7 folded card will only be available for the created card files. You cannot purchase a folded card from the original photo in the public gallery.

We only let you purchase cards of files that match the needed dimensions exactly. That means an image has to be 2800x4000 or 4000x2800, see here, at the bottom:
http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Make+your+own+photo+cards

And if your image is just a regular photo, not a create card with the four quadrants, some of them upside down, the photo would be cropped into four sections on the card. That's why we don't give you the option to purchase the card from the regular image, it has to be the created card file.

And you don't want to rotate the card file in your gallery, or else it will be printed inside out.
http://www.smugmug.com/help/photo-greeting-cards



2. If you only want people to be able to purchase from your created cards, and not make any cards of their own, you will need to let them see those cards. You could make you own public cards gallery and make copies of the created cards, or collect the cards into a public gallery. However you want to arrange it to have a place for viewers to purchase the cards you've created. You can have that gallery set to EZ Prints and have cards priced, and have everything else set to zero so only cards can be purchased from the card images.

Then you don't have to have cards priced anywhere else, so that viewers won't see the option to create a card.


I hope that helps. :)

Wendee
Support Hero

Thak you, Wendee. Most of that makes sense, except:

1. As an example, at present I quickly created one card in an unlisted SmugMug Creations gallery. ( I read somewhere in this thread to make it unlisted.) Should I now replace that with a public Greeting Cards gallery or keep the unlisted gallery as well?

2. In a public Greeting Cards gallery, how can I show customers an actual copy of the right-side-up photo? If I only put the created card /up-side-down image there, they won't be able to see what the photo looks like.

3. Nothing comes easy: I just looked at my SmugMug Creations gallery again. The watermark was on the thumb while the card was in the card creator. But now the card doesn't have a watermark in the still-unlisted gallery, and it is also available for viewing in the Original size. Since we're repeatedly told not to show the O sizes, what size can I put in the gallery settings if will be public? And what about the watermark then?

Thanks, again.

[Bird Lady]

Thak you, Wendee. Most of that makes sense, except:

1. As an example, at present I quickly created one card in an unlisted SmugMug Creations gallery. ( I read somewhere in this thread to make it unlisted.) Should I now replace that with a public Greeting Cards gallery or keep the unlisted gallery as well?

2. In a public Greeting Cards gallery, how can I show customers an actual copy of the right-side-up photo? If I only put the created card /up-side-down image there, they won't be able to see what the photo looks like.

3. Nothing comes easy: I just looked at my SmugMug Creations gallery again. The watermark was on the thumb while the card was in the card creator. But now the card doesn't have a watermark in the still-unlisted gallery, and it is also available for viewing in the Original size. Since we're repeatedly told not to show the O sizes, what size can I put in the gallery settings if will be public? And what about the watermark then?

Thanks, again.

Bump - anyone, especially for #3?

[richW]

Thak you, Wendee. Most of that makes sense, except:

1. As an example, at present I quickly created one card in an unlisted SmugMug Creations gallery. ( I read somewhere in this thread to make it unlisted.) Should I now replace that with a public Greeting Cards gallery or keep the unlisted gallery as well?

2. In a public Greeting Cards gallery, how can I show customers an actual copy of the right-side-up photo? If I only put the created card /up-side-down image there, they won't be able to see what the photo looks like.

3. Nothing comes easy: I just looked at my SmugMug Creations gallery again. The watermark was on the thumb while the card was in the card creator. But now the card doesn't have a watermark in the still-unlisted gallery, and it is also available for viewing in the Original size. Since we're repeatedly told not to show the O sizes, what size can I put in the gallery settings if will be public? And what about the watermark then?

Thanks, again.

1. Your 'SmugMug Creations gallery' is for the cards your create, your customer's card they create will be added right into their shopping cart.
If you want to display some cards you created, then add them to any gallery and apply watermarks and any other image protection you would like.

2. I wouldn't change the rotation of the cards, if the rotated copy gets ordered, then the card will be printed wrong.


3. The 'SmugMug Creations' gallery is 'unlisted'. If you make it public, then apply watermarks and limit the display size to less then original and enable 'protection' in the gallery settings.

[Bird Lady]

1. Your 'SmugMug Creations gallery' is for the cards your create, your customer's card they create will be added right into their shopping cart.
If you want to display some cards you created, then add them to any gallery and apply watermarks and any other image protection you would like.

2. I wouldn't change the rotation of the cards, if the rotated copy gets ordered, then the card will be printed wrong.


3. The 'SmugMug Creations' gallery is 'unlisted'. If you make it public, then apply watermarks and limit the display size to less then original and enable 'protection' in the gallery settings.

:clap At least I hope I should be clapping.... I created a public Greeting Cards gallery and used the "Collect" feature to put copies of both the created card and the actual photo into it. I did that because the card creator automatically puts cards into a "SmugMug Creations" gallery. I prefer calling my gallery Greeting Cards, so I found it easier just to makethe Creations one unlisted.

I then adjusted the pricing for the card to show only EZ's image pricing for cards in that gallery But I was able to keep all the Bay print pricing I had chosen beforehand for the actual photo in the Greeting Cards gallery. I also made certain merchandise and downloads were put at 0.00 for the card itself.

Don't know if the above makes sense, but I tried to buy cards as a customer, and it worked. Please check to see if I have overlooked something - and although I am 99 percent sure the card layout is correct....can someone please confirm that?

Two last questions on this:
1. Can printmarks be placed on greeting cards if they are on the actual photo?
2. Can I/how can I put a message on the gallery page that the "Layout is correct as shown." I put it in the caption but would prefer it somewhere in the Buy button line, if possible...?

Thanks to everyone again. I know lots of people who like pretty greeting cards, which is why I wanted to do this so badly.

[pdavey]

When I select an image from a gallery and go to create a card, it automatically populates that photo. I can not figure out how to change it. Is there somewhere that I can start a card without it applying an image?

[Wendee]

Hi Susan,

1. Yes, if you put your signature or logo on the card image, it will be printed on the card as well.

For making your own cards, see here:
http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Make+your+own+photo+cards


2. I'd recommend putting a note in the gallery description, so that it's above the images, near the Buy button. :)


Two last questions on this:
1. Can printmarks be placed on greeting cards if they are on the actual photo?
2. Can I/how can I put a message on the gallery page that the "Layout is correct as shown." I put it in the caption but would prefer it somewhere in the Buy button line, if possible...?

[Wendee]

Hi pdavey,

The image you were looking at when you clicked Buy > Create a Card, will be the one automatically displayed in the card creator. Below the example card, you can choose the type of card and the design you want, and there's a tab for Photos where you can choose other images in your galleries. :)

Take care,

Wendee
Support Hero
http://www.smugmug.com/help/




When I select an image from a gallery and go to create a card, it automatically populates that photo. I can not figure out how to change it. Is there somewhere that I can start a card without it applying an image?

[pdavey]

Hi pdavey,

The image you were looking at when you clicked Buy > Create a Card, will be the one automatically displayed in the card creator. Below the example card, you can choose the type of card and the design you want, and there's a tab for Photos where you can choose other images in your galleries. :)

Take care,

Wendee
Support Hero
http://www.smugmug.com/help/

No matter what card I chose the image populates and I cannot get rid of it. Can a card be chosen independently then the images added from the photos tab?

Can a card be created without selecting a photo from a gallery?

[pdavey]

No matter what card I chose the image populates and I cannot get rid of it. Can a card be chosen independently then the images added from the photos tab?

Can a card be created without selecting a photo from a gallery?

Let me try to make this simpler,
1. I am looking at a photo
2. I go to create a card
3. I pick a card design
4. The photo i was viewing is populated on the card
5. I decide I want to change that photo
6. I bring up the photos tab in which my images magically appear.
7. I try to replace the original image populated there but card will not allow it. I cannot move it, delete it or replace it with another image.
8. Try to find the answer here on the forum:D

Hope this makes it a bit more clear.

[Bird Lady]

Hi Susan,


I'd recommend putting a note in the gallery description, so that it's above the images, near the Buy button. :)




1. Is there CSS code to put the caption on top of the photo ONLY for the Greeting Card gallery?


2. There's a glitch, in that I thought I could arrange the order of the virtual thumbnails in the Greeting Cards gallery. It seems the created card templates group together while the related photos do the same. That will be hard for anyone to follow once there are more than a few cards. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

[Andy]

1. Is there CSS code to put the caption on top of the photo ONLY for the Greeting Card gallery?

No, not that I'm aware of.

[Bird Lady]

No, not that I'm aware of.

Thanks, Andy. I can deal with it. What about my number 2, above?

[pdavey]

I have contacted the support people with no avail. I am I the only one that has this issue?