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rharodigital
Nov-07-2008, 06:21 PM
Sorry, I can't find word of this change.

I see the new button changes when I log in and I'm viewing my homepage. But when I click to the control panel, I now only have four tab choices?

The Homepage tab is missing. (If I remember what it was called now - I got so used to just clicking it.) From there I could see the Photo Communities I joined.

Now I can only see them if I check the option via the homepage layout button. What happened?

Andy
Nov-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

Release notes coming!

Allen
Nov-07-2008, 07:07 PM
Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

Release notes coming!
Yal but things won't stick when moving the homepage boxes now.

Andy
Nov-07-2008, 07:24 PM
Yal but things won't stick when moving the homepage boxes now.
Sure they will/do...

Allen
Nov-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Sure they will/do...
Mean I gota wait till they fix it?:D

Andy
Nov-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Mean I gota wait till they fix it?:D
Are you having an issue - b/c it's working fine here :dunno

Allen
Nov-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Are you having an issue - b/c it's working fine here :dunno
It was working here also, happily sitting at the bottom. Then I tested the new
homepage button and hid it. Now when unhiding it's stuck at the top. Same
thing happens with the friends/family box.:D

jfriend
Nov-07-2008, 09:29 PM
Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

Release notes coming!


Andy, do you realize how many times people mess up their homepage by hiding essential controls or by putting unclosed DIVs in their bio and we all go tell them to go fix things in the homepage tab of the control panel by editing their bio their? Now, how do they fix things? If they can't edit their bio because they've screwed it up, there's no way out. I would think that you, king of support, would think the homepage tab was essential for support reasons if nothing else.

Because of the effects of serious customization errors, it is always necessary to have an alternate way to fix things that does not rely on controls in the page. Without it, your support heroes are going to be the only ones who can fix things, users won't be able to recover from a wide variety of relatively simple mistakes.

Unless you have a bullet-proof way of preventing user customization mistakes or the hiding of essential controls, I would think it would be UI policy at Smugmug that you can always fix something in the control panel without relying on in-page controls.

Andy
Nov-07-2008, 09:30 PM
Andy, do you realize how many times people mess up their homepage by hiding essential controls or by putting unclosed DIVs in their bio and we all go tell them to go fix things in the homepage tab of the control panel? Now, how do they fix things?

John, this method is not on the homepage tab. It's on the settings tab (and is still there, control panel>settings tab>bio>change).

We're putting the homepage tab back, next release :)

jfriend
Nov-07-2008, 09:33 PM
John, this method is not on the homepage tab. It's on the settings tab (and is still there, control panel>settings tab>bio>change).

We're putting the homepage tab back, next release :)

So it is - good. Not easy to see for some reason, but it is there.

Andy
Nov-07-2008, 09:34 PM
So it is - good. Not easy to see for some reason, but it is there.
Yeah. On the homepage tab, the bio is ajaxy-- so if it's b0rken on the homepage, it's b0rken on the homepage Tab in CP also.

Thanks!

jfriend
Nov-07-2008, 09:38 PM
Yeah. On the homepage tab, the bio is ajaxy-- so if it's b0rken on the homepage, it's b0rken on the homepage Tab in CP also.

Thanks!

Not entirely the case. Some users hide the edit stuff on the homepage either on purpose because they don't realize that viewers don't see it or by mistake so they can still get at it in the ajaxy version. But, I see your point on the ajaxy stuff that can be messed up by the user's own content.

I guess we should amend the policy. There must be a way to fix any issue that can't be borked by the user's own content (which rules out some ajaxy ways).

rharodigital
Nov-08-2008, 07:56 AM
Yep, you do it all from the homepage now. We'll try and put the homepage tab back, but you don't really need it now :)

Release notes coming!

But it seems that when I check the option on the Homepage tab, that is "to unhide" the feature - you're forcing me to to add the section to my homepage.

Previously I could check out, add, delete Photo Communities at my whim and it would just be something behind the scenes.

Andy
Nov-08-2008, 08:18 AM
But it seems that when I check the option on the Homepage tab, that is "to unhide" the feature - you're forcing me to to add the section to my homepage.

Previously I could check out, add, delete Photo Communities at my whim and it would just be something behind the scenes.
Yeah read the release notes we're putting them back :D Sorry!

micki
Nov-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Yeah read the release notes we're putting them back :D Sorry!

ok

yeah ~ I found something about this (asked this in my own question but no answer yet

WHEN will it be added back

I really need to have my homepage tab back so I can look at my folders "in private mode"

I don't let everyone look at my folders on my front page.

Thanks

~ micki

ivar
Nov-08-2008, 02:46 PM
ok

yeah ~ I found something about this (asked this in my own question but no answer yet

WHEN will it be added back

I really need to have my homepage tab back so I can look at my folders "in private mode"

I don't let everyone look at my folders on my front page.

Thanks

~ micki
as an alternative, you can move the galleries to your homepage, and add this to your custom CSS:
.homepage #categoriesBox,
.homepage #galleriesBox { display: none; }
.loggedIn .homepage #categoriesBox,
.loggedIn .homepage #galleriesBox { display: block; }


This hides the galleries from your visitors, but shows them to you when you are logged in.

{JT}
Nov-09-2008, 09:48 AM
The Homepage tab is now back in the control panel :)

micki
Nov-09-2008, 01:14 PM
as an alternative, you can move the galleries to your homepage, and add this to your custom CSS:
.homepage #categoriesBox,
.homepage #galleriesBox { display: none; }
.loggedIn .homepage #categoriesBox,
.loggedIn .homepage #galleriesBox { display: block; }


This hides the galleries from your visitors, but shows them to you when you are logged in.

Thank you Ivar

I might do that because the TAB that is BACK does NOT give you the option to see the the folders.

I don't know why it doesn't work like it did before. Weird.

ivar
Nov-09-2008, 01:22 PM
Thank you Ivar

I might do that because the TAB that is BACK does NOT give you the option to see the the folders.

I don't know why it doesn't work like it did before. Weird.It does, but only in 'category' view, not 'gallery' view :thumb

micki
Nov-09-2008, 01:29 PM
It does, but only in 'category' view, not 'gallery' view :thumb

:clap

THANK YOU!!!!

Now I can find my pictures I stuck in an obscure category (like PEE)

HA HA HA

I went crazy.

Thanks so much! :)


I have WAY too many pictures with this silly business. SMUGMUG rocks ;)

:barb

micki
Nov-10-2008, 09:06 AM
:clap

THANK YOU!!!!

Now I can find my pictures I stuck in an obscure category (like PEE)

HA HA HA

I went crazy.

Thanks so much! :)


I have WAY too many pictures with this silly business. SMUGMUG rocks ;)

:barb


Ok I take my HAPPY DANCE BACK

HELP!!

it's GONE AGAIN

THE GALLERIES will NOT stay on the HIDDEN Homepage tab.

Again this is REALLY important for us that own businesses and do not want people to find these galleries that we do not have locked but have them direct for people for a short period of time.

PLEASE make them available for us to see our galaries back in this place without me making it "UN HIDDEN" on the front or doing like IVAN said and making me see it on the front (I hate that). I want to see it hidden.

Thanks ~ micki

jfriend
Nov-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Ok I take my HAPPY DANCE BACK

HELP!!

it's GONE AGAIN

THE GALLERIES will NOT stay on the HIDDEN Homepage tab.

Again this is REALLY important for us that own businesses and do not want people to find these galleries that we do not have locked but have them direct for people for a short period of time.

PLEASE make them available for us to see our galaries back in this place without me making it "UN HIDDEN" on the front or doing like IVAN said and making me see it on the front (I hate that). I want to see it hidden.

Thanks ~ micki

I don't understand this issue at all. Galleries that are set to unlisted will not show to the public, but will show to you when you are logged in.

When logged in, you can see them either by setting your homepage to show by gallery and see them there or you can set your homepage to show by category and then navigate to the right category. Am I missing something here? Why do you also need to see them in the homepage tab? If you want to make it easy to find unlisted galleries, then just put them all in a common category hierarchy.