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Aussieroo
Nov-04-2008, 12:07 AM
I put this together for our members at the local camera club and I thought having gone to the effort I might share it with those starting out in the fabulous hobby of ours.

Mr. Moderator, if I have over stepped my boundery feel free to move/edit/delete as you have to.

Tips For Better Photography

General Tips

1. Make time to take photos. Like all other hobbies
2. Make time for practice. Practice your settings
3. Enjoy what you do.
4. Start with the basics and work upwards.
5. Don’t get flustered, we all start at the beginning and move on.

The Camera

1. Buy the best you can afford, upgrade when you get frustrated.
2. Check all your gear before you go out. Inc. Batteries cards, etc.
3. Use a tripod if necessary.
4. Use a remote control even use “mirror up”, option.
5. SLR’s use the correct lens. No 1 lens fits all occasions
6. Compact users push your camera to its absolute limits, then upgrade.
7. Remember, “if a photo is worth taking, it is worth taking properly”!!

Taking the Photo

1. Plan your photo shoot.
2. Check out the venue, lighting, organize people in coloured clothing etc.
3. Get them to put on special makeup, use props if available.
4. For landscape, check the scene several times if possible.
5. Check the light, time of day, time of year, angles to shoot, composition.
6. Make notes for future reference in a book.
7. Take indoor shots, set up lighting, tripods back drops, use torches etc.
8. Use props, plants, lounge, chairs, reflectors etc, even when going outdoors; take them with you. All part of your planning.
9. For flowers, make notes on what flowers where and when, shoot in good light, use a spray bottle for water droplets, check the background when shooting, check composition.
10. For things like waterfalls, snow scenes, you will need to chose your time of year. NO point thinking the water will be flowing in late Feb after a hot summer.
11. Plan your trips with photos in mind but have a balance between family and photos.


Using your gear

1. Use what you have now, when you absolutely can no longer work without an upgrade, then its time to upgrade.
2. Read the manual and learn about your gear.
3. Ask questions if in doubt, at meetings or on line.
4. Use the auto program modes to start with, at least you are telling the camera something.
5. Practice with semi manual modes like AV. SP/TV. Or full manual and go back to auto programs when you need to. Work your way to not being dependant on auto modes.
6. Check what other gear there is to do a certain job. IE macro extension tubes, external flashes mono pods etc etc.


Before taking a photo

1. Choose your picture for a reason and do a test composition shot.
2. Check the background for distractions.
3. Choose the best settings for your camera for what you are about to shoot
4. Do a meter reading by pressing the shutter half way and CHECK THE SHUTTER SPEED!!! If it is too slow and you are going to get blur increase shutter speed.
5. Use a tripod, Remember, “if the shot is worth taking it is worth taking Properly” Take your time.
6. After taking the shot check the details, check histogram, zoom in and check sharpness.
7. Reshoot if necessary with adjusted camera settings.
8. Try different angles, higher or lower, move left or right not always the first way you saw it. Is there a stronger shot to be had?
9. If sky is included check sky exposure, under expose by 1-3/3rd stops or over expose if it is in shady areas.
10. Use filters if you have them
11. Set your camera to RAW if you want to do all the processing later
12. Or to Jpg if you want the camera to process the image for you.
13. Learn the different processing settings and learn which ones to use when.
14. Carry a little note book and make notes, don’t try to remember everything. It will come automatically as you get more practice and experience.



Post processing

1. Use the program you are most comfortable with at the level you are now
2. PS is not for everyone at first but make it your goal to get there in a year or two ahead.
3. Preview your photos on the card first in something like Faststone.
4. Delete the obvious duds. Check twice.
5. Do a test crop and see if you can get a stronger photo with a closer crop or a 10x4 crop.
6. Once you are happy you want to save, copy the rest to your hard drive storage area. Use a system so you can find your pictures when you need them. I use All pics/year/month/event.
7. Plan what you want to do with your photos. Print for display, make a slide show, digital photo albums, photo frames, print comps, for family etc.
8. What you do with your photos will be your motivation to continue shooting and learning and improving.
9. Open each photo you want to edit. Look for a crop first. Can you remove unwanted area with a crop. Can you concentrate more on the subject matter with a crop.
10. Check your levels/histogram and adjust
11. Look for bits to clone out, sensor dust etc and clone
12. Check and straighten horizons
13. Adjust contrast/saturation/ shadow and highlights etc as you know how and needs require.
14. Resize to your needs, print, web etc.
15. Finally sharpen before saving edited image.

Finally

Display your work somewhere somehow. This will be your motivation to continue to learn and improve. You will later be able to look back and see how you have improved. Think about internet albums, forums, slideshows, photo frames, print and frame work and hang in the house, prints for presents for family and friends, club assignments, print competitions, printing on T shirts, calendars, plates books etc etc. Just have a go, be happy with the level you are at and work to improving, none of us are perfect and all have a road ahead of us yet. Lastly help out others on the same road, you will be amazed what you have learnt and have to share.

I put this together for our Camera Group and it is in short hand form with vocal elaboration to go with it but I thought it may go well here for some members willing to read. You can copy and paste it to an email and print it out for easier reading and future reference.

clemensphoto's
Nov-04-2008, 01:49 AM
These are great tips! :clap

I have to wonder though why you recommend deleting the duds from the memory card directly instead of copying them first to the HDD? Personally I have found that it is better to copy the images to the HDD and then go through them just in case something happens then I have the originals on the memory card. I sure that we all know how dependable computer products are.

Aussieroo
Nov-04-2008, 01:56 AM
Did I say "DUDES"?? No just checked definately duds.

My reasons are simply these days we collect so many files as we can shoot so many without having any extra cost. That our HD's fill full of useless photos and duplicates that now 7 years down the track I am still deleting files I too back at the start of digital. However if you feel comfortable in saving them all and are disciplined enough to delete them later then by all means save them all to you HDD. I just know the way I work I never "Get around to it later" and find it best to do the weeding straight away before they grow to big and the job is beyond me.

clemensphoto's
Nov-04-2008, 02:02 AM
Sorry, yes you actually said duds (I'm a little sleepy):rofl .

I guess my personal way isn't much of adding extra space to the HDD but more of using the copied photos on the HDD to get rid of the DUDS and then when I'm done with that I erase my memory card.

Aussieroo
Nov-04-2008, 02:05 AM
You are right, for beginners it is probably best they copy them all first just in case. I guess I am pretty confident that if something does go wrong, my recovery program will get them back for me.

clemensphoto's
Nov-04-2008, 02:10 AM
Another tip I might add (beginner or pro) is to back up your files/photos regulary as well. I had organized all of my files and photos on a external HDD just recently and was backing them up to DVD disk and the HDD crashed. Luckly I know I can retrieve the files but at a not so nice cost. But, that's life-machines break down.

pathfinder
Nov-04-2008, 04:58 AM
I have moved this thread to Technique as I feel it is more about shooting than post processing.

loubell
Dec-02-2008, 02:08 PM
Glad someone finally put it all into perspective. I carry my camera, tripod, and lenses on every trip (even to the grocery store) :D

AND to add to the conversation - I use TO not delete, but I've learned that once you reach that maximum and no more memory cards, you have to critque your own work and possibly delete. IN MOST CASES - AVOID DELETE! You may find a picture that simply needs a crop... But thing to do - stock up on memory cards and them available in your camera bag!

Shayebryd
Jan-07-2009, 12:32 AM
Awesome thread.....thanks!

lenseye
Mar-23-2009, 10:15 PM
Thanks for sharing tips.

MrMagoo
May-22-2009, 08:29 PM
Thanks for the time and effort to put your tips together; perfect reminders for effective captures.

christulk
Aug-31-2009, 11:39 PM
Hi,

The search function brought up this thread. How does one straighten horizons etc, using CS2?

I can't find a tool for it - I know one is there...

A friend uses Aperture, and his method is simple. Tell the programme what is straight, and viola! Done.

Any way to straighten in CS2?

Many thanks

Chris

BobKane
Sep-10-2009, 08:54 PM
Hi,

The search function brought up this thread. How does one straighten horizons etc, using CS2?

I can't find a tool for it - I know one is there...

A friend uses Aperture, and his method is simple. Tell the programme what is straight, and viola! Done.

Any way to straighten in CS2?

Many thanks

Chris

Straightening in CS2 is easy once you know how:
1) Menu: Filter > Distort > Lens Correction
2) Click on Straighten Tool (2nd down in upper left)
3) Click and drag line along horizon.
4) Click OK.
5) If you like the result click Menu: Layer > Flatten Image.

-Bob Kane
http://designphotography.smugmug.com/

Aussieroo
Sep-11-2009, 01:11 AM
Even easier than that is to elect the ruler tool, draw a line along the horizon to be straightened, then go to Rotate/arbitrary and click okay. it will automatically rotate it to the degree you set by the line you drew. You can the crop as required.
Many ways to skin a cat.
You can also use your crop tool, drag out a crop outline and put the mouse near one corner till it turns into an arch arrow and click and drag the lines till they line up with your horizon or vertical line and click on crop or hit enter.

Aussieroo
Sep-13-2009, 02:11 PM
Thank you everyone, I am pleased you got something out of this post. My aim has always been to help people enjoy photography as a hobby. I leave the professional side to those wanting to make money out of the "Game" Personally I find the day you want to make money, you are governed by what the customer wants rather than have the freedom to be creative and express your inner self through your hobby. If your hobby later turns out to make you money and you are happy doing that, even balancing, the hobby side and your work side, then more power to you. Thats what makes this hobby so great, it is almost infinite in its scope and everyone can get enjoyment at what ever level they find themselves at.

sgbotsford
Nov-01-2009, 05:59 AM
The force of your computer that is.

Oh sure, About one time in 30, I inadvertently take the wrong shot, and delete
immediately. But frankly, I can't see that LCD screen well enough to decide.

Nor can I easily flip between many shots to decide.

Pull them all in to the computer. Put up the thumbnails. 90% of the deletions you would do on your camera can be done in 1/10 the time it would take on your
camera.

The last chunk of deletions will be done after looking at the image full screen.

Show your 5 star photos.

Keep your 4 star photos. They may just be a different interpretation.

Keep your 3 star photos. Being able to throw 40 similar pix in court may help
you win a copyright contest.

Chuck the 1 and 2 stars, unless they have useuable chunks for montaging. (I'm
a sucker for keeping interesting cloud formations to put into otherwise bland pix
later.)

JoshF
Nov-23-2009, 08:45 PM
Just wanted to say Thanks. I really like your list and it's helpful for me as a newbie.

Aussieroo
Nov-23-2009, 09:00 PM
Just wanted to say Thanks. I really like your list and it's helpful for me as a newbie.

Thank you, it is nice to know this thread continues to help a few, thats what makes this forum so great, all of us sharing what we know helping others along the way. Good luck with your photography

JoshF
Nov-23-2009, 09:18 PM
Thank you, it is nice to know this thread continues to help a few, thats what makes this forum so great, all of us sharing what we know helping others along the way. Good luck with your photography

Do you have any suggestions for good DVD's or books to learn from?

yummy_waffles
Jan-02-2010, 09:53 PM
Thank you for this! Great tips.

skybubbles
Feb-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Does anyone know if there are any good online classes. I know that I dont know much & have a lot to learn! Can anyone help?

Antonio Correia
Feb-03-2010, 07:49 AM
Does anyone know if there are any good online classes. I know that I dont know much & have a lot to learn! Can anyone help?
http://photoshopcafe.com/tutorials.htm
http://tv.adobe.com/

Just to mention 2 of my book marks.
:D

Meanwhile try this (http://tinyurl.com/ycveckn), will you ? :D
Or even this (http://tinyurl.com/ydpq2nn) for a change.

skybubbles
Feb-03-2010, 04:52 PM
Cool thanks I'll check it out. Thank you.

Art Scott
Jul-14-2010, 06:12 PM
Glad someone finally put it all into perspective. I carry my camera, tripod, and lenses on every trip (even to the grocery store) :D

AND to add to the conversation - I use TO not delete, but I've learned that once you reach that maximum and no more memory cards, you have to critque your own work and possibly delete. IN MOST CASES - AVOID DELETE! You may find a picture that simply needs a crop... But thing to do - stock up on memory cards and them available in your camera bag!

Another reason NOT TO DELETE is file corruption......I have had memory cards corrupt from deleteing 1 image and others that did not xcorrupt unless i deleted a huge amount like 50+.........these were Lexar pro and Transcend Pro cards........so don't delete just keep a stash of memory cards on hand.....right now I have 12 - 8gb cards between 2 cameras............

Aussieroo
Jul-28-2010, 10:31 PM
Nice to see this thread still lives and helps the occasional person.

Stella7d
Sep-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Does anyone know if there are any good online classes. I know that I dont know much & have a lot to learn! Can anyone help?

Although quite some time has passed since this question was originally posted, I thought I would share my recommendation in case someone else in the future is looking for an online class.

I highly recommend The Photographers Workshop (http://www.snapshotsofagoodlife.com/index.cgi?p=descriptions) by Karen Russell. She offers an amazing & comprehensive 9 week online class. Her class is perfect for those JSO, but even a seasoned photog would benefit from her knowledge and skill building assignments. The daily lessons are very detailed and provided in both PDF & MP3 format. There is a forum for the students to ask questions and discuss lessons, as well as a gallery for inspiration and feedback. Karen is very active with her students, answers all questions promptly and provides very thorough & detailed explanations to all questions presented. She's an amazing photographer & a gifted instructor!! :thumb

Tinks
Feb-10-2011, 07:29 AM
Nice to see this thread still lives and helps the occasional person.Still alive and kicking. :D

philsphotography
Feb-11-2011, 10:32 PM
Another tip I might add (beginner or pro) is to back up your files/photos regulary as well. I had organized all of my files and photos on a external HDD just recently and was backing them up to DVD disk and the HDD crashed. Luckly I know I can retrieve the files but at a not so nice cost. But, that's life-machines break down.


I just opened a Carbonit site, just for backing up my photography. It took a month for the initial backup. But now, I have the confidence that with a hard drive crash, virus, or theft - I am covered. It's like $55 a year, and is automatic. Best parts, you get little green dots on the files that are backed up, yellow dots on files that are in queue. I also like that I can get to my files from my smart phone, or anyone's computer. It's worth the price!

philsphotography
Feb-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Does anyone know if there are any good online classes. I know that I dont know much & have a lot to learn! Can anyone help?


I really enjoy the weekly podcast from Jimmy Beltz, www.phototips.biz (http://www.phototips.biz). He has 80 podcasts that are free. He also has inexpensive video tutorials like Photography 101, Wedding 101, etc... Check it out, I personally enjoy Fridays because that's podcast day!

goldenballs
Feb-12-2011, 01:41 AM
Thanks for the tip Phil - I just learned about 2nd curtain synch and tilt shift lenses from him. He tells things in a clear way and I too subscribed to the podcast.

philsphotography
Feb-13-2011, 11:27 AM
I am rather new to Dgrin, and have found plenty of tutorials here too. I wonder if there is a podcast?

http: //www.philsphoto.com

MooreDriven
Feb-13-2011, 06:21 PM
I was listening to Rick Sammon and Juan Pons' podcast this weekend and they said not to delete individual images from a memory card. As Art stated in his post, your more likely to corrupt the card. Rick stated that the card manufacturers recommend formatting the cards. I had heard this when I first started shooting and have followed that advice. Fortunately, I've never had a corrupted card.

Aussieroo - nice post.

Dale

pathfinder
Feb-15-2011, 07:23 PM
No pdocasts from dgrin that I am aware of...

blizz
Mar-03-2011, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the tips!

nik8ta
Apr-18-2011, 04:04 PM
The Camera

1. Buy the best you can afford, upgrade when you get frustrated."


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What a load of crap ... when one gets frustrated, one is supposed to ditch the camera and buy a more expensive one???

What happens if you still get frustrated?? .. buy THE MOST expensive one????

Great advice.

Aussieroo
Apr-19-2011, 12:42 AM
The Camera

1. Buy the best you can afford, upgrade when you get frustrated."


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What a load of crap ... when one gets frustrated, one is supposed to ditch the camera and buy a more expensive one???

What happens if you still get frustrated?? .. buy THE MOST expensive one????

Great advice.

For a new member I see you are set on making lots of friends here. If you read the post properly and understood it you would know very well what was meant and then it would not have required this ridiculous outburst. If you buy a camera for $150 that is a point and shoot, to see if you like the hobby and you learn all you can with that camera and then become frustrated with the slowness and limitations of it, what else are you to do but up grade. Better doing that than buying a 1DMkIV only to find out you can't get your head around things and don't really enjoy the hobby. So my original advice stands, Buy what you can afford to start with and upgrade if and when that cameras limitations frustrate you.

Harryb
Apr-19-2011, 04:01 AM
The Camera

1. Buy the best you can afford, upgrade when you get frustrated."


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What a load of crap ... when one gets frustrated, one is supposed to ditch the camera and buy a more expensive one???

What happens if you still get frustrated?? .. buy THE MOST expensive one????

Great advice.


You made a pertinent point that got lost in the rather rude manner you expressed it.

Please fell free to disagree with others but keep it civil.

sharagim1
Jun-20-2011, 11:28 PM
i"m trying to learn combination ambint light and flash at outdoor photography espacially on sunset time, with 2 off camera flash,
i couldn"t find some graet source like video tutorial about this, please if somebody have information about my question, response,
any help would be much apprectied.

my eqqupement: 5d markll . canon 7d , 2 flash 580 exll, softbox, amberella,
flex tt1 and flex tt5 (2)
canon lens 70-200,2.8ll
caon lens 85mm 1.8
canon lens28-135
canon lens 10-22

nickrosephotography
Jan-11-2012, 06:42 AM
I totally agree with Ryan...never delete duds in camera - there's a great chance that you could delete a good photo. If you're shooting in RAW especially you can salvage 2-3 stops of a poorly exposed image or even post crop if your compositions out. Better to check them on the big screen before you decide on the ones to delete.