Canon 60D?

[yoyostock]

No, this is not a leak of a 60D in the works...rather, it's a question: is the 50D worth getting if there is a 60D that will be released in the not so far future?

I've been shooting with my trusty 20D and am in the market now for a new body. The 50D is within my budget, but I'm a little hesitant to drop the big bucks only to hear about a newly designed body or other upgrade that will follow on the 50Ds heels.

Any advice here? Should I just pick up the 40D and be happy with it until time for the next upgrade, or pick up the 50D?

[Richard]

No, this is not a leak of a 60D in the works...rather, it's a question: is the 50D worth getting if there is a 60D that will be released in the not so far future?

I've been shooting with my trusty 20D and am in the market now for a new body. The 50D is within my budget, but I'm a little hesitant to drop the big bucks only to hear about a newly designed body or other upgrade that will follow on the 50Ds heels.

Any advice here? Should I just pick up the 40D and be happy with it until time for the next upgrade, or pick up the 50D?

Why settle for a 60D when the 70D will be so much better? :rofl

Seriously, new models are always in the works. If you (like me) are still shooting with a 20D, either the 40D or 50D will be an improvement. You really can't go wrong. You don't need the latest and greatest to take fantastic photos...your 20D is perfectly capable of that.

[Scott_Quier]

:agree - you can expect the 60D, if it comes, to be something like 18 - 24 months away. Waiting for something that may not even come is ... well ... not something I would consider.

Think instead about what your current camera does and what it doesn't do. Does it, in any way, limit your ability to create photographs? Is there something about your current camera that gets in the way or is irritating? If the answer is no, then there's no need to upgrade at all - granted the want may be a very strong inducement to do so.

So take a look at what is currently available. Will it solve a problem you are having? If yes, then it's a candidate for upgrade.

I shoot weddings with a pair of 30D cameras. There is/was no reason for me to upgrade to the 40D when it came out - didn't solve any problems for me. The 50D, assuming it pans out to expectations, does solve a couple of problems (1) Higher ISO capability, and (2) the micro-focus adjustments. So, this is a serious consideration for me.

On the other hand, I have a 20D that I had converted to IR-only photography. I'll not be upgrading that any time soon. It does what I need and does it quite well.

[swintonphoto]

One thing you always need to accept is that every 12-24 months cameras get replaced. It is not because the old ones are no good, it is simply because camera manufacturers are in the business to make money. They want us to think we need a new one every time. However, the 50D just got released. It is brand new. Thinking of its replacement already seems pretty premature to me. So, the 50D is worth getting. Certainly there will be a 60D, but not for at least 12 months. But your 20D is still a wonderful camera.

I actually usually upgrade when the newest model gets announced so the model that's being replaced drops a ton in price. I got my E-510 for a major bargain right before the E-520 came out, and am in no rush to upgrade (even thought the E-520 is out). I still have my E-500 as a backup, and still use it regularly as a second body during my wedding shoots. Still works great!

[Moogle Pepper]

I wonder what they are gonna call the 50D series when it hits past 90D?

[tjstrider]

I wonder what they are gonna call the 50D series when it hits past 90D?

i expect that at that time they will go to some arbitrary other system...

or else they will go back and start doing D90 D80 D70 D60 D50 D40 D30 D20 D10 D00

the Nikon/Canon naming schemes are stupid! they are so similar except Canons' is more logical...

Nikon goes for DXX to the DXXX then the DX

Canon goes in order XXXXD/XXXD then XXD then XD

[Michiel de Brieder]

as for me the upgrade from a 20D to a 40D was totally worth it, especially since I bought it with a €150,- rebate (cost of the body was about €680,- which is actually my cheapest DSLR body up to date :rofl and I've owned a 2nd hand D30 and a new 20D)

If the 40D is enough for you you'll save a nice bit for a new lens, if you really need a 50D then by all means go get one :D

[jogle]

The release of bodies is fast enough that you can quite happily skip every second generation and spend the money on fun glass instead. It will make you happier then having the latest body and will last you A LOT longer

my upgrade path.... 10D when it was newish, skipped the 20D then jumped on the 5D after it was out for 8 months, it's still given me so much love I've pre-ordered the 5D2 to make some macro videos.

[cmason]

Nah, I would wait for the 70D, but really the one you want is the 80D...because, you know, its going to be 4x better than the 20D...heck Canon did the math for you!

(j/k):rofl


There will always be new cameras, that's how the world works. If you find a reason that the 40D or 50D better meets your needs, by all means, buy it. If you dont see anything that makes a difference, there is no reason not to keep using a 20D.

[Tee Why]

60D is in the works.
I suspect it'll be out in about 12-18months.
The same for 70D after the 60D is out.

At some point you have to make a purchase. There will always be coming coming around the corner, but don't let that stop you. Otherwise you'll always have to wait.

[Duckys54]

Canon seems to put out their cameras at pretty regular intervals, so if you're ready to wait another year and a half, why not? And then you could wait another 18months for the 70D instead? I say, just get it (unless there is some lens you're in dying need of)
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4650/canondslrtimelinegu6.png

EDIT: Source of image:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Canon_DSLR_cameras

[Kayaking-N-SC]

No, this is not a leak of a 60D in the works...rather, it's a question: is the 50D worth getting if there is a 60D that will be released in the not so far future?

I've been shooting with my trusty 20D and am in the market now for a new body. The 50D is within my budget, but I'm a little hesitant to drop the big bucks only to hear about a newly designed body or other upgrade that will follow on the 50Ds heels.

Any advice here? Should I just pick up the 40D and be happy with it until time for the next upgrade, or pick up the 50D?

If I were you, I would go on and upgrade the 20D to the 50D. I started with the 20D, skipped the 30D when it came out, then upgraded when the 40D came out. The 50D is tempting because of the improved ISO range, but for upgrading for better ISO, the new 5D is what I am saving my pennies for.

[joshhuntnm]

I'd wait. There are rumors for this fall, which isn't that long. Hopefully, they will improve the high ISO noise over the 40d/50d which, from what I read are pretty close to the same. I'd be curious how the new x1i compares

these sites may be of interest to this conversation.

http://www.canonrumors.com/category/photography/canon-60d/

http://www.photographybay.com/2009/02/03/canon-60d-7d-rumors/

[Blurmore]

I'm a pro, and I only buy a new camera when I kill the old camera, then depending on the cause of death I have the old camera fixed and give it to my kid. Seriously, I have a 40D and NO 50D envy whatsoever. Yeah I'd like a 5d MkII but not until they may a 24-70 f2.8 IS to go along with it.

[Ric Grupe]

The 40D is a fine camera you can still get new for cheap. A no-brainer IMO.

[ziggy53]

Another satisfied Canon 40D customer. :clap

[Rhuarc]

Same here, 40D all the way! For me the only compelling thing about the 50D was the higher ISO's available, and from waht I read they aren't that great from a quality standpoint, so why bother?

Right now I'm saving for the 17-55 f2.8 IS!!

[cmason]

I am all about the 40D too. I have no reason to move to anything.



OK well maybe IF I were going to move it would be to something with significantly more features/ISO performance, say a Nikon D700.

[colourbox]

The most important thing is to have a solid idea of what you need. For example, I wanted lower noise in low light, and HD video. But the 50D does not have significant noise improvements, and there are some deal-breakers with the video on the 50D. So overall, all I know is that, based on my own needs and preferences, if I want to be happy with the body for a number of years, I need to pass on the 50D, and wait for whatever Canon's going to call the next model or whenever Canon's going to ship it.

[Toshido]

and there are some deal-breakers with the video on the 50D.


Not having video is a pretty serious deal breaker :)


As a vote for the 50D I just finished a job that I would not have had with a 40D. One of the requirements was that the camera could use, and create, custom folders....

I believe that was not available on the 40D.

[colourbox]

Not having video is a pretty serious deal breaker :)

Oh, my bad, I was thinking of the new EOS Rebel T1i's video...

[joshhuntnm]

Not having video is a pretty serious deal breaker :)


As a vote for the 50D I just finished a job that I would not have had with a 40D. One of the requirements was that the camera could use, and create, custom folders....

I believe that was not available on the 40D.

what is a custom folder?

[Manfr3d]

I wonder what they are gonna call the 50D series when it hits past 90D?

We'll see a Canon XP Home, Canon XP Pro and then Canon Vista in that order .. :D

[Scott_Quier]

Not having video is a pretty serious deal breaker :)


As a vote for the 50D I just finished a job that I would not have had with a 40D. One of the requirements was that the camera could use, and create, custom folders....

I believe that was not available on the 40D.
That is a very strange requirement. Can you provide more details - just curious.

[Toshido]

That is a very strange requirement. Can you provide more details - just curious.


Sure. Was shooting a gymnastics meet, actually the 2009 Canadian gymnastics championship. i worked the booth more than I shot pictures and I still took over 4000 pictures over the week.
Anyways, the custom folders...

Beginning of the day we were given a starting list of all the gymnasts. They did not always have bib numbers or any identifying marks at all. And with that number of athletes we could not possibly know the names.
Anyways it started as Grace Chiu asked me to do. Each event I started a new folder for that event then marked down the last picture number of that athlete.
So if i took 10 pictures of athlete 1 then I would write down a 10 next to their name (assuming I started at photo 0 ) Then if i took 6 pictures of athlete 2 I would write down a 16, and so on....

Later we figured it was easier to give each athlete their own folder. So by this time the gymnasts had bibs and numbers. it also got to the point where 3-4 events were happening all at once, with 2 photographers....
So basically I covered the floor excercise and whatever I had time to do when the floor was empty.

So I would start a new folder and write the folder number and bib number beside it. When I switched to a new athlete I started a new folder and wrote down the folder number and athlete bib number.

Then back at the booth I imported the photos to a junk folder on the desktop. We then just copied all the photos in a folder into the folder on the computer with the gymnasts name on it. Worked great and within 20 minutes of importing the photos we could have 2000 photos of 20-30 people organized into named folders.

So in this case the custom folders were a godsend for organizing pictures.

Also after this I can actually see me using this feature to organize photos as I take them...

For example, with a wedding since I know you (Scott) shoot weddings....

I could do prep photos in a folder. New folder for some candids as they travel to the church. New folder for candids and prep before ceremony. New folder for ceremony, etc....

Make for an extremely quick way to organize photos if you need to find a specific person or event during the day...

[joshhuntnm]

for weddings it doesn't seem that much trouble to create folders after the fact.

[Toshido]

Wedding are slow though, in comparison. You also do not need to remember every name that attends..

[Scott_Quier]

Now I understand where the folders would be a real life saver in that situation.

Josh is right about weddings though. As they are not quite that fast moving, there's no real need for the system you used for that event. There are usually very clear breaks and it's easy to organize the photos - especially if you have synchronized the clocks on all the cameras involved - just sort by the "Date Create" in the EXIF and it's easy to find the breaks.

Not so easy for you in the situation above. Wow!

[Toshido]

One of the shooters there had a Nikon D300. Not sure if that camera can't do folders or if he simply did not use them. What a mess as i was trying to sort them for viewers. Nice pictures though.

[W.W. Webster]

When the 60D is released, whenever that may be, it will not change the capabilities of existing 50Ds. The 50D will still perform to its specification.

So if the 50D meets your requirements, and since the 60D is unlikely to be released (let alone be available for purchase) for at least 12 months, there's no good reason not to buy the 50D if you are ready for a new camera body now.

Otherwise, wait for the 70D or 80D, just to be on the safe side! :wink

[jogle]

When the 60D is released, whenever that may be, it will not change the capabilities of existing 50Ds. The 50D will still perform to its specification.

Are you sure? I heard that it comes with a hibernating nest of spiders that wake up when the next model is released and then they go and leave spider footprints on your sensor and murder you in your sleep. :huh

Spider attacks aren't covered in the warranty, look in the fine print.

[joshhuntnm]

Are you sure? I heard that it comes with a hibernating nest of spiders that wake up when the next model is released and then they go and leave spider footprints on your sensor and murder you in your sleep. :huh

Spider attacks aren't covered in the warranty, look in the fine print.

i sometimes feel this way when software suddenly quits working when the new version is released.

[Baldy]

When the 60D is released, whenever that may be, it will not change the capabilities of existing 50Ds. The 50D will still perform to its specification.

So if the 50D meets your requirements, and since the 60D is unlikely to be released (let alone be available for purchase) for at least 12 months, there's no good reason not to buy the 50D if you are ready for a new camera body now.

Otherwise, wait for the 70D or 80D, just to be on the safe side! :winkI'm struggling with this too. It's summer and I want to shoot some action, which I can't do with my 5D MKII so I've been considering a 50D but would hate to spring for it and have the 60D follow soon after.

[Manfr3d]

Why don't you just shoot sports with the camera you have right now?
I shot sports with a 10D (3fps, 9pics buffer) and while it takes practice
to get the good shots at the right time it can be done. A faster camera
is going to be more convenient and increases the odds of more good
picutres it does not guarantee it. My advice would be, shoot with what
you have (even a 20D has 5fps) and upgrade when the new camera is
here and you still feel a need for it. Besides nobody knows the specs
of this camera yet.